Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted July 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2023 Even if you aren't musically inclined, this is fascinating... Naïve Old Fart, filmmusic, MikeH and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,834 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 This is one of the greatest cues ever, but I've never understood how 12 tone music is written. Can anyone recommend any good book on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,030 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I've never understood how 12 tone music is written. I can’t understand how musicians seeing that complex score for the first time at the recording session can play it with perfect professionalism 5 minutes later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 hours ago, filmmusic said: This is one of the greatest cues ever, but I've never understood how 12 tone music is written. Can anyone recommend any good book on that? Obviously there's Wikipedia as a starting point... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-tone_technique ...but as for books, I can't say I know of any offhand to recommend. I mean, my understanding is that it's essentially music based on a row of notes that uses every note in the western scale (there being 12, hence 12 tone music) and each note is only used once. Variation is introduced by changes to tempo or by inverting or reversing the order of the initial 12 notes, laying those on top of each other and so on. I think some composers end up cheating to make it work but fundamentally you are only supposed to use your original row or variations thereon. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted August 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2023 Figured some folks here might be interested in this photo Dan Goldwasser gave me permission to share, from something he ran across by happenstance while visiting JoAnn Kane Music Services years ago: Recording sessions in Australia were canceled for this score only about a week before they were to take place, so Jerry completed over three quarters of the film. Looks like a pretty substantial work, judging by the thickness compared with other scores! (Also, the Academy’s Herrick Library has Goldsmith’s original sketches for the score, and their website lists 17 cues: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=138063&forumID=1&archive=0) Yavar Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Marian Schedenig and Ollie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Perhaps a kickstarter? If it doesn’t have to overcome a bunch of legal obstacles. Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ollie said: Perhaps a kickstarter? If it doesn’t have to overcome a bunch of legal obstacles. It might, but I'm sure legal fees could also be covered by such a crowdfunding campaign. Let's hope somebody takes it up! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,354 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 What's the Tristar goldsmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Gladiator or Love Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Signals said: What's the Tristar goldsmith? 56 minutes ago, Jay said: Gladiator or Love Field Naw, it's gotta be Basic Instinct, going by the date and the fact that these are all clearly alphabetized. I briefly thought it might somehow be (Mr.) Baseball, another 1992 film, but that's not Tristar. And Brotherhood of the Gun (aka Hollister) was a TV movie that aired in October 1991, so doesn't quite work with the visible date either. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Yup you're definitley right; I somehow only saw the Carolco and looked past the TriStar! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,398 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Of all the Goldsmith pieces I would ever have expected to hear on Piano, this one is not it. Very nice. Surprisingly the best bits (I think) are the more action oriented parts towards the end. Naïve Old Fart and Tom Guernsey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Does anyone know why A New Life from First Knight has an insane number of plays on Spotify compared to the rest of the OST? Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,466 Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 Maybe it appeared a lot in those authomatic playlists generated by Spotify's algorithm? Trope, Damien F, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Listing to this great end title cue from the 70s. I definitely hear the three notes of the beginning of his Voyager theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,398 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 9 minutes ago, Damien F said: Listing to this great end title cue from the 70s. I definitely hear the three notes of the beginning of his Voyager theme. Well, in late 1994 Jerry thought "Wow, this will be the FOURTH Star Trek show. And this will be the THIRD Star Trek thing I've written for. And they already use my theme for another one. And I hear they're making ANOTHER movie next year and they want me for that one! Wow, there's just a SWARM of these things!" ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 41 minutes ago, Damien F said: Listing to this great end title cue from the 70s. I definitely hear the three notes of the beginning of his Voyager theme. And the best thing about it - it's not MQA encoded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 05/01/2024 at 12:05 AM, Tallguy said: Of all the Goldsmith pieces I would ever have expected to hear on Piano, this one is not it. Very nice. Surprisingly the best bits (I think) are the more action oriented parts towards the end. Hey! Isn't this 'Let's Get Small'? Good, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,398 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Hey! Isn't this 'Let's Get Small'? Good, though Let's Get Small was the original LP title. State of the Art / The Charge is the tile on the LLL set (and presumably Jerry's title). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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