Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 We have to watch the pennies in our house right now, my son is two days overdue amongst other things. Further down the line my finances will allow for more liberal materialistic spending again but for now two movie tickets and the ost will have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 There's really no reason to fret about pricing or even pre-order it now if price is important to you. The weekend before its released, just about every retailer will have it at their lowest possible price to be competitive with their competitors. Between now and then it's just going to keep fluctuating.In the US, I expect the standard OST to be $12.99 and the SE to be $19.99 just before its released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Sounds about right. On Amazon the SE could very well be $16-$18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 We have to watch the pennies in our house right now, my son is two days overdue amongst other things.You already know the sex of the baby? Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Oh, I never knew the sex beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I don't think they'll be releasing the complete score, and certainly not for that price. It would be a rather big marketing screw-up if you ask me.Yeah, giving the fans what they want right from the start, at a reasonable price - such morons!Pre-ordered from Amazon.de for 20 Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,734 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 It's only a marketing screw-up if you look from the perspective of wanting to make more money from OST + CR sales. Surprising as it is, I guess sometimes they just give fans what they want.And while the price is lower than the CRs (I think TTT and RotK went into the £30+ price), they don't have the overhead or marketing of a standalone CD release, or the editing needed to truncate it to 70 mins.Took the plunge and pre-ordered from Amazon UK. A price fall is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,239 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Pre-ordered from Amazon.de for 20 Euro.Me too. I'd just been waiting for them to post a non import price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It's only a marketing screw-up if you look from the perspective of wanting to make more money from OST + CR sales. Surprising as it is, I guess sometimes they just give fans what they want.I was looking at it from the perspective of making money. Just look at the huge amount of cash the LotR releases reeled in. It surprises me why they wouldn't want to exploit that again. But I guess sometimes fans just get lucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 The first sample...well, full track! http://sidiview.tumb...wn-howard-shoreBecame aware of it on Doug Adams' site where he says it's part of an AMC Theatres promotion. Guessing it's legit and okay to post then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Wonderful! But I would like to see the film first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 An expected journey. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Sounds fantastic! Absolutely loving it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Well, if I say "not bad", you are definitely going to love it. You know that, BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Dr Pepper and Mr Dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'm not listening.Fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 This is the LPO again is it not? Check out that performance, it's undeniably the London players. Utterly sublime. And how about that recording? Stellar. This was like slipping into a comfy old sweater and I already love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It does sound like a sort of despiction of Radagast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 487 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I LOVED the track! Now I am really anxious to hear the rest! It definitely sounds like it belongs with the LOTR scores, and yet different at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Wow! That was not what I was expecting at all! Its a cue that wouldn't feel right plopped into one of the old LOTR scores, but its not far enough away to make me think The Hobbit's scores won't jive with LOTR's.And yea, Zimmer's Sherlock score came immediately to mind for me as well. That score turned out to be quite an influential one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Some parts sound straight from somewhere in LOTR and the it flows into something new, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brónach 1,302 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I never really planned not to listen. That was just a momentary thought. Which is why I said "fuck".I am weak when it comes to this, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I never really planned not to listen. That was just a momentary thought. Which is why I said "fuck".Watch your language, young man!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Sounds good. Reminds a bit of Half Blood Prince.Definately sounds fresh and inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Did you know Simon Rhodes is a scoring mixer on this one? Cool.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Did you know Simon Rhodes is a scoring mixer on this one? Cool.KarolI didn't. He certainly helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,803 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 This is the LPO again is it not? Check out that performance, it's undeniably the London players. Utterly sublime. And how about that recording? Stellar. This was like slipping into a comfy old sweater and I already love it.so will you wait to have money and buy the SE or will still double dip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 I've added the sample to the main post. I'll be maintaining it with a list of all samples that pop up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,803 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Sounds LOTRish. A little scary to be radagast's thematical material... but maybe the scene needs itOF COURSE! The scary segments are the Rabbit of doom leitmotifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 FOR PEOPLE WONDERING HOW I GOT THE “RADAGAST THE BROWN” TRACKAMC theaters is doing a Hobbit promotion where you can win a trip to New Zealand, free AMC tickets for a year, or a free single track download from the not yet released Hobbit soundtrack. Both my dad and I won a single track download from our large beverage cups so that is how I got a hold of Radagast the Brown. I don’t know which track my dad won yet, it may be the Radagast track, but if it isn’t expect another track from the official The Hobbit soundtrack. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/the-hobbit?before=1352075363How crazy would it be if each winner got a different track, and the whole thing legally leaked out that way?I highly doubt it though, I'm sure everyone gets Radagast The Brown track... Doug kinda said as much on his blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Omg...a whole track out?! I think I'll be too weak to resist...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Wow sounds promising. I got a nice warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia but also the music seems like a fresh extension of the Middle Earth sound. Gorgeous choral work.Potential motifs abound, both choral and orchestral. Some rather spidery repeating ostinati remind me of Shelob a bit. Could it be there are some evil spiders about in this scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Screw it! I listened to it....First of all, its very much Howard Shore and the music is still woven from the same cloth of LotR (some of the choral work, dark harmonies and orchestral clusters come straight from LotR). The fiddle work is very intriguing however. Its takes a combination of Shore's dark sound and the new musical colour of the fiddle work. I love it. Shore has always strived to add new musical colours to the musical tapestry of Middle-Earth and this seems to the case here. It's still very much Middle-Earth, so no need for people to freak out.I especially like when the choral work combines with the cool rhythmic work. The whole effect is oddly a bit intoxicating. I love the colours brought out by the slight use of woodwinds, the choral work, the fiddle and the rhythmic passages. As a whole, its surprisingly dark for Radagast. I wonder what scene this is playing for. I wouldn't be surprised if Luke was right. The fiddle work is probably the motif for the Bunnies of Doom. The gorgeous, heartwarming choral work in the beginning is probably played against the slow-motion downfall of Radagast, as the great wizard gets corrupted by the evil Bunnies.I really enjoyed listening to this and I can't wait for the whole score!I LOVED the track! Now I am really anxious to hear the rest! It definitely sounds like it belongs with the LOTR scores, and yet different at the same time.Indeed. I bet back in the day people would have thought the Hardanger fiddle doesn't "sound like LotR". It's just another musical colour added to the rich palette of Shore's Middle-Earth. And I'm loving it. I keep playing this track again. Its great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I keep playing this track again. Its great stuff! I think we can't say anything definitive about the Radagast scene this music is meant to accompany but it really sounds intriguing as it goes through so many different moods in this little less than 5 minutes. But it really sounds so wonderfully familiar and still new, Shore returning to his sound of Middle Earth with undiminished ingenuity. All the dissonant and harsher sensibilities are here but also the lyricism, the orchestrational skill and nuance and spirit of LotR. The choral writing really reminds me of LotR and the Nature material in tone if not in directly in thematic material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 The first sample...well, full track! http://sidiview.tumb...wn-howard-shoreBecame aware of it on Doug Adams' site where he says it's part of an AMC Theatres promotion. Guessing it's legit and okay to post then.wow...I'm not gonna listen, I'm not gonna listen, I'm not gonna listen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Sounds LOTRish. A little scary to be radagast's thematical material... but maybe the scene needs itOF COURSE! The scary segments are the Rabbit of doom leitmotifs.Rabbits of Doom?? What are those :s (never read the book, still planning to; did read LotR trilogy!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Its a JWFan in-joke about the rabbit-pulled sled that Radagast is seen using in some of the LOTR trailers/commercials. In the book he has no such sled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 But to be fair, Radagast's role in both The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings is either so small or merits barely a mention, e.g. giving birds to Saruman and unknowingly sending (and rescuing) Gandalf to (from) Orthanc. Absence of a sled does not imply nonexistence of a sled. After all, Tolkien does write that Gandalf describes Radagast the Brown as not being much of a traveler, and as he declines his mission as a Wizard in his obsession with animals, he may just come to depend on them for his travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,400 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Is this the first time (In the Middle-Earth Saga) that Shore used so much small percussion? (I mean I know he has used big Timpani etc., and snares in "Breach of the deeping wall wall but..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 No, e.g. the music for the early Black Riders scenes in FotR is full of smaller subtler percussion, not perhaps as sharply tapping as in the preview track for Hobbit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,400 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 but not much militirastic or snare percussion right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yes Shore uses snare drums very sparingly in the scores. I think there is some in the Amon Hen sequence, the unused Ringwraith music section for Frodo's vision of Barad-Dûr from the Seat of Seeing, and of course the Breach of the Deeping Wall and some other smaller moments but even in the more militaristic passages he usually refrains from using it in LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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