Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 To start it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Next up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 That one's on my Lovemaking Playlist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Ku3qqj-2gOne of my favourite Barry scores. Achingly haunting. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 From the same movie and so achingly Bondian that i laugh in the face of Adele & Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 It's a terrific song and agreed about Adele/Epworth, but I've never liked Bassey's performance on that. Just too much. It's needs a more intimate singer. Less glass shattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Yes, yes, but the melody and the lyrics - i don't know if this queasy feel of deception and danger ever was penned more acute, Bassey adds a ton of sultriness that isn't especially needed but not unwelcome, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 I think a cover could work, as long as the original harmony was paid attention to, and the singer wasn't that Conchita bloke.Have you seen the film? Pretty dire stuff. Bryan Forbes was one of our most underrated directors, but he made a fair amount of shit too.Most people have probably seen this clip, but what the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I prefer (much) this Barry/Forbes collab: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Yes, their masterpiece. Four alto flutes (all doubling on piccolos), four cellos, vibraphones/xylophone, and I think five trombones and 1 tuba for the brassier bits.A little known British film (with a young Judi Dench) is FOUR IN MORNING from 1965. Similar chamber ensemble. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedfud 38 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 i'm game:fav's in no particular order: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBCqP7R42K0 T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 TThat slidey thing at 3:10 with the Danelectro 6 String is so utterly cool. One of the things made me want to pick up the bass guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Some of my favorite Barry cues. He definitely doesn't get enough love. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iejj1W73UqE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I had my best John Barry compilation stolen out of my car CD player years ago. They left the car. That's how good he was. Dixon Hill and Uni 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Can someone post the film version of the arrival at the island from King Kong already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I need to beef up my Barry collection. I'm open to recommendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Another one of these impeccably moody-melodic late 60's melodies: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedfud 38 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 So what made up the strange brew of Mr Prendergast ? The son of a yorkshire projectionist . Almost a pop star and then by a happy accident arguably Britain's finest film composer . Whilst in the army he had a correspondence course with Bill Russo. Then apparently studied with Joseph Schillinger. Developing a minimalist approach for some of the most over the top films of all time. His fondness for dry low flutes, Cimbalom, picked guitar, Very high Horns.....and minor major 7ths ( with added 9th's ) . Coupled with that creepy jazz harmony with a touch of wagner made him one of the most recognisable sounds of all time. was he right to turn down the incredibles because it was "just a cartoon". They seemed to have stolen his music anyway.I'm just glad i saw him in concert whilst I had the chance. t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I need to beef up my Barry collection. I'm open to recommendations.Ditto. Currently, I only own King Kong (FSM) and The Living Daylights (Rykodisc). Oh, and I picked up Dances with Wolves and Raise The Titanic used a while back, but haven't really listened to them much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I have The Black Hole and FSM's King Kong, as well as the 40 Years compilation set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 was he right to turn down the incredibles because it was "just a cartoon".That's not what I heard. It was more that he either had no desire to write in his Stan Kenton-esque 60s style or simply couldn't. Some over at FSM who supposedly have insider knowledge have said Barry had Alzheimer's in his later years. For Jay and Koray, I recommend giving THE LION AND WINTER and THE LAST VALLEY a shot. Really fine scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tbXNdibtiMLovely fretless work on this supporting the guitar. Listen those harmonics sent through a DDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I have a respectable John Barry collection. I need to be in the mood for a lot of his moody, romantic lyricism though.He's about as divisive as that German bloke most of us love to hate. I know one or two people in real life who simmer with rage at the mere mention of his name and erupt with vitriol whenever his scores are played.His musical skill seemed relatively novice compared to say Williams or Goldsmith, which led to a rigid musical vocabulary that seemed to hit a ceiling in the 1990s where almost all of his music became interchangeable.But I enjoy a lot of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Another loss that still makes me sad. The man who gave James Bond his swagger, and could out-romance just about anyone when he was in the groove.I need to beef up my Barry collection. I'm open to recommendations.Ditto. Currently, I only own King Kong (FSM) and The Living Daylights (Rykodisc). Oh, and I picked up Dances with Wolves and Raise The Titanic used a while back, but haven't really listened to them much.Get on the Dances With Wolves thing. Now.And while you're at it, get Out of Africa, High Road to China, and Lion in Winter—or be prepared to turn in your "Film Score Fan" membership card. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 You're quoting a post from 2014. I've listened to Dances with Wolves many times since then. It's excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Fair enough. You shall be spared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 And I have Out of Africa, Lion In Winter, and Body Heat at home... waiting to be discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I'd recommend you explore them in that order. Body Heat is good, but hardly my favorite. Good music for certain moods. "Chinon/Eleanor's Arrival" from Lion in Winter is flat-out one of Barry's finest moments. Out of Africa, however, is as indispensable as DWW. They played the Overture during the "In Memorium" sequence of the Oscars the year before last. There's never been a more perfect piece for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I might have listened to Out of Africa on Spotify once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I bought Raise the Titanic and tried to listen to it a few weeks ago, but noticed it's just the same theme over and over again, the same way, basically. I prefer James Horner's prequel score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Raise the Titanic is a tedious score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Disagree Sharky.And this thread is woefully short. I know it's a JW forum but John Barry transcends all boundaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Always loved the power and primal force of this cue. The theme that enters on the strings is a gem too. They really don't make action music like this anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto's Claws 2 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'm a sucker for Barry's romantic scores--Dances With Wolves, Scarlet Letter, Out of Africa, Somewhere in Time....even if they are a tad repetitive. Raise the Titanic is a hard listen as the theme is repeated without any changes but I actually find it much better than what Horner gave us to represent Titanic--and that's coming from a Horner fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 And this thread is woefully short. I know it's a JW forum but John Barry transcends all boundaries.Doesn't completely surprise me. Even more than Horner, most of Barry's stuff sounds very much the same unless you've built up a larger collection of it and can begin to appreciate the subtle differences. All through my early years of collecting, he was the fourth J, and finished my "composer's stanza"—John, Jerry, James, Barry. I was as heartbroken by his loss four years ago as I was for Jerry's ten years earlier. Sucks that he doesn't get more attention here.I'm a sucker for Barry's romantic scores--Dances With Wolves, Scarlet Letter, Out of Africa, Somewhere in Time....even if they are a tad repetitive. Raise the Titanic is a hard listen as the theme is repeated without any changes but I actually find it much better than what Horner gave us to represent Titanic--and that's coming from a Horner fan! I actually agree with you on that, and have long thought that Barry would've been the better composer for that film. Not that I have any less love for Horner, but I think he could've done better, and I know Barry could have (and doubly so if Cameron had made the movie ten years earlier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Like Horner, repetitive even (or not), Barry's work is quite moving I find for the most part. Oor something about it that can carry you and just stir the emotions. Though I've heard the theme a few times, when I was listening to my Out of Africa CD for the first time last year the music for the flight just sent shivers. Same with High Road to China or Robin and Marian and once, Raise the Titanic -Memories of Titanic.And I will never ever, I hope, get enough of On Her Majesty's Secret Service for all my years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I love when they do that in CD booklets, it's like a subliminal message... HEY, LOOK AT THOSE SCORES TOO, THEY ARE AMONG THE GREATEST THE COMPOSER WROTE... DANCES WITH WOLVES OUT OF AFRICA CHAPLIN ZULU INDECENT PROPOSAL GOLDFINGER FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER BORN FREE MIDNIGHT COWBOY THE COTTON CLUB SOMEWHERE IN TIME BODY HEAT THE IPCRESS FILE MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 It's missing what is, IMHO, his greatest score, Lion in Winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Romão said: It's missing what is, IMHO, his greatest score, Lion in Winter Of course! But it includes some scores for me to dig for: Zulu (well, done, I just purchased the Nic Raine re-recording!), The Ipcress file (I have to listen to the reissue of the album, which seems to feature the original album + useless dialogues tracks between them [WTF?], The Cotton Club and Mary, The Queen of Scotts). And well, I think my next order will contain the new expansion of Midnight Cowboy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I vastly prefer The Last Valley score to LitW, though it's of course a rather inferior movie. AJM and bruce marshall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, publicist said: I vastly prefer The Last Valley score to LitW, though it's of course a rather inferior movie. I can understand that. And they are pretty much sister scores. But there's a simplicity, a lack of ornament, a deprieve to Lion in Winter that makes it a wonderful evocation of the period AJM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Of course! But it includes some scores for me to dig for: Zulu (well, done, I just purchased the Nic Raine re-recording!), The Ipcress file (I have to listen to the reissue of the album, which seems to feature the original album + useless dialogues tracks between them [WTF?], The Cotton Club and Mary, The Queen of Scotts). And well, I think my next order will contain the new expansion of Midnight Cowboy... All fantastic scores and definitely worth a listen. A couple of other CD releases had some annoying dialogue between the music too, particularly Rykodisc releases, such as The Knack. Shame The Cotton Club has very little Barry score on the album. Mostly features jazz pieces instead that were arranged for the film. Walkabout and The Dove would be other scores I recommended not on the list above. The Dove is a great score. 1 hour ago, Romão said: It's missing what is, IMHO, his greatest score, Lion in Winter Often wondered why this was never included in the Moviola compilations. Otherwise it would be a comprehensive overview of Barry's film scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Romão said: It's missing what is, IMHO, his greatest score, Lion in Winter It's not only the best score that Barry wrote, it's almost the best score that anybody ever wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's not only the best score that Barry wrote, it's almost the best score that anybody ever wrote. Look the width available on the page, IMHO could simply not fit! At least, it fit in my collection! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Looks like the Lion In Winter OST album is only 35 minutes long How long is the complete score? Anything notable in the film that isn't on the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 The re-recording has a few extra tracks, but I much prefer OST. And the older-sounding recording (although it still sounds great), fits the score perfectly Naïve Old Fart and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I also prefered the OST, because the "older" sound fits the score better. Same thing! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: Looks like the Lion In Winter OST album is only 35 minutes long How long is the complete score? Anything notable in the film that isn't on the album? Its been a long time since I've seen the film (Christmas Day, 2016, to be precise), and Romão's right; there's a couple more tracks on the rerecording, but the OST has a more mature, and fuller sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Simply glorious. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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