#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 In the end of the day film music isn't really a genre, it's a description. Just because one loves John Williams or James Horner doesn't mean they have to love Hans Zimmer, or Jonannsson because they also work in film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 The only thing more tiring than the Giacchino = next Williams discussions: we don't like non-orchestral, atmospheric film music discussions! KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Because it usually just resorts to bashing the "other" side. But it's actually a very valid topic. There's no reason why someone who loves John Williams should love Johnny Greenwood. Just because they both do film music. There are many that like both, and that's great. But it doesnt make the ones that don't wrong. Group hug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 mother! : Why Darren Aronofsky and Jóhann Jóhannsson Scrapped the Original Score for a More Expressive Soundscape Well, what a bummer year to be a Jóhannsson fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 It makes want to like him, and his music, even more. Keep kicking against the pricks, J! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, KK said: mother! : Why Darren Aronofsky and Jóhann Jóhannsson Scrapped the Original Score for a More Expressive Soundscape Well, what a bummer year to be a Jóhannsson fan... He's been found lacking. Didn't you think his general sound was pretty limiting, KK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Not at all. Especially not for films of this nature. But I am more familiar with his work, so I'm aware of his range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Seems like the novelty wore off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Try again. Come back when you know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Johann will probably end up being another Santaolalla. Popular for a bit, but it didn't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Santaolallaa probably cries himself to sleep, clutching his two Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 "I could have been a contender!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 3/23/2017 at 4:42 PM, Stefancos said: In the end of the day film music isn't really a genre, it's a description. Just because one loves John Williams or James Horner doesn't mean they have to love Hans Zimmer, or Jonannsson because they also work in film. Exactly. I have a friend who's big in ambient music...Eno, Robert Fripp, Michael Brook, etc. He really enjoys Jóhannsson and couldn't care less about the films his music is attached to. If you're not into electronic or ambient music you're probably not going to get much out of listening to these kind of scores on their own. But if you are, these kind of scores are welcome as works of art that have their own merits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 3/23/2017 at 3:48 AM, Stefancos said: Too much experimentation is risky, and jeopardizes the upcoming Blade Runner Cinematic Universe. I'm sure Ridley will ask his old buddy Hans to oversee Jonhannsson's work. And make the necessary corrections. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 See! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 You called it, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 What do I win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I just stumbled onto this "remix" of some of Glass' Satyagraha. I'm really digging it! Apparently there's a whole album of these kind of Glass "remixes" from various artists. Will have to check it out. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 39 minutes ago, KK said: I just stumbled onto this "remix" of some of Glass' Satyagraha. I'm really digging it! Apparently there's a whole album of these kind of Glass "remixes" from various artists. Will have to check it out. Not Johannsson related, but one of my favorite projects of this kind was an album of remixes of a recording of Terry Riley's composition "In C". I LOVE this one. (if that is region blocked try this): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Neat! Terry would appreciate that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Four samples from his upcoming score The Mercy (which is out in 2 days) are out: http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/en/cat/4798303 It sounds pretty good, hopefully it is better than The Theory of Everything at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Those 4 available samples are of previously written pieces from Johannsson's Orphée. The rest of the album, I presume, is original. Here's hoping this one at least makes it to the finish line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Oh, I missed that. Haven't heard that album you mentioned. Anyway, just 2 days left for it to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Stumbled onto a lovely Jóhannsson piece I was not aware of before this: publicist and The Illustrious Jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/film-composer-johann-johannsson-interview-experimental-score-music-1201927641/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 My review of MANDY (in English): http://celluloidtunes.no/mandy-johann-johannsson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Going to give Mandy a listen later today. Arrival was his most recent score I cared for and I have a feeling that this one won't be for me, but maybe it has at least one worthwhile track or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Funny, somehow I was thinking of JJ today. Here's a guy who was asked to compose the score for the new Blade Runner movie, he gets rejected, and then he dies ... I still want to hear what he came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Have you heard ORPHÉE, Alex (a concert work, not a film score)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I haven't. I'm really not all that familiar with the music of JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Jóhann Jóhannsson’s Cause of Death Cocaine Overdose, Report Finds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Yeah, old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Damn, I was hoping his score for BR 2049 had surfaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I wonder if it ever will, any idea how much he actually scored before they dropped him? I bet it sounded nothing like Blade Runner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Stefancos said: Jóhann Jóhannsson’s Cause of Death Cocaine Overdose, Report Finds Why did you decide today to bring us this article from August of 2018? And one you had already commented on? On 8/2/2018 at 2:51 AM, Locrius said: For those curious, apparently he died due to a cocaine overdose + prescription medication. https://www1.wdr.de/radio/cosmo/musik/global-pop-news/global-pop-news-2070.html On 8/2/2018 at 7:04 AM, Stefancos said: Pity the fool who wroughts his own undoing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I wonder if it ever will, any idea how much he actually scored before they dropped him? I bet it sounded nothing like Blade Runner! I suspect that's why they had to let him go. He didn't want to copy Vangelis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jay said: Why did you decide today to bring us this article from August of 2018? And one you had already commented on? I did it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Jóhannsson's final opus seems to be generating some buzz: https://www.indiewire.com/2020/02/last-and-first-men-review-johann-johannsson-berlin-1202213596/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/last-first-men-film-berlin-2020-1281168 Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 As the buzz around Dune continues, I once again find myself lamenting Jóhannsson's passing. While I appreciate many of Zimmer's textures I ultimately remain unimpressed with the score, and unfortunately we can only wonder what Jóhannsson might have done had he been given the chance to apply his talents to such a promising project. For the longest time the same was thought to be the case for Blade Runner 2049. Jóhannsson was replaced by Zimmer and Wallfisch after Villeneuve decided they needed something closer to Vangelis' original (whether the score we got actually fits that bill is a matter of opinion, but no matter). Whatever music he had begun to work on at that point was never released. Anyway, I was perusing through Jóhannsson's official YouTube channel and what do I find but a recently released album titled Gold Dust, "a selection of unreleased and unused music from a project during Jóhann's career." There's no explicit confirmation as to which film these might have been intended for, but it's cool to imagine how this might have fit into something like BR 2049 or perhaps even his rejected score for Darren Aronofsky's Mother!. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Yes, I'm aware of the release. I'm glad that we still get "new" Jóhannsson music after his passing; i.e. that there is a catalogue to choose from. I haven't yet listened to GOLD DUST, though. Will soon. Many have said that ORPHÉE is what a BR score would have sounded like from him. That's just pure speculation, of course, but it's still a great album. I'll have to think about what context GOLD DUST would "fit in" when I listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 According to the Youtube metadata, "Gold Dust" is Mother! demos with one other track thrown in as well Quote Song: Day 6_3M12c_Grace Empties Dryer_v1.2_425_03-13-15-00_Mix-21903 Album: Mother Sketches for Opera Song: Into The Tomb-21903 Album: Athaliah Song: Day 6_7M25_Grace's Revenge_v1.0_0428_07-06-07-00_Mix-21903 Album: Mother Sketches for Opera Song: Day 6_3M12a_Panties Photo_v1.3_425_03-05-47-03_Mix-21903 Album: Mother Sketches for Opera Song: Day6_7m24_Grace's Theme_MIX-21903 Album: Mother Sketches for Opera Song: Day 6_5M16_Passion_v1.1_428_05-05-43-02_RefMix1.0-21903 Album: Mother Sketches for Opera Well, unless "Mother Sketches for Opera" means something else, I guess. Come to think of it, there is no character named Grace in Mother! is there... hmmm The album is out in all the usual places too, not just youtube https://open.spotify.com/album/7q07UdbjEjUxD7FflG3kDj?si=C4CBSMplR-qE0IkYD1hXDghttps://music.apple.com/us/album/gold-dust-ep/1579626559https://tidal.com/browse/album/193037933https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BT6FWHJhttps://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/gold-dust-johann-johannsson/dx8r9809dd8hc TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 @JayThey're probably demos for the Mother! Opera that Aronofsky was ideating on with Johannsson. Source: https://screenrant.com/darren-aronofsky-mother-opera/ Quote The suddenly-chatty Aronofsky returned to Reddit this weekend for another round of mother! talk and indicated he's ready to take the already-extreme film in an even more bizarre direction. Unless Aronofsky was just messing with Reddit, it seems that he and Johann Johansson are "thinking" (to quote Aronofsky directly) about turning mother! into an opera now. Composer Johann Johansson (Arrival) was actually working on a score for mother! when Aronofsky decided the movie would be better without music. Johansson's score wasn't used, but the composer was still given a credit as "sound and music consultant." Turning mother! into an opera would give Johansson a chance to develop the musical ideas he never got to use on the movie, and then some. The article does acknowledge that Aronofsky could've been joking. But unless the Album title "Mother Sketches for Opera" is also some kind of joke, then it was probably for the Opera idea. I suppose though these could just be selections from his original Mother! demos that were then compiled into an album of ideas for the opera? Interesting though regardless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It's weird because "Mother Sketches for Opera" seems pretty definitive, especially in light of that random reddit comment Aaronofsky made... .. But the individual track titles don't make sense for anything to do with Mother! at all 3M12c_Grace Empties Dryer 7M25_Grace's Revenge 3M12a_Panties Photo 7m24_Grace's Theme 6_5M16_Passion That's not what the Mother! film is about, and an opera wouldn't use movie reel numbering TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jay said: It's weird because "Mother Demos for Opera" seems pretty definitive, especially in light of that news you just shared... .. But the individual track titles don't make sense for anything to do with Mother! at all 3M12c_Grace Empties Dryer 7M25_Grace's Revenge 3M12a_Panties Photo 7m24_Grace's Theme 6_5M16_Passion That's not what the Mother! film is about, and an opera wouldn't use movie reel numbering Exactly. Very confusing. Very difficult to say what it is. I'd love someone to just come out and tell us what these are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Well, maybe he first wrote it for a film, it got rejected, then he dug them out to propose for the opera? Just gotta figure out which film has a character named Grace who finds a panty photo and empties a dryer in reel 3, has passion in reel six, then gets revenge in reel 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,289 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Maria Bello plays Grace in Prisoners. Can't remember if any of those would make sense with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 10/02/2018 at 11:34 PM, KK said: Stumbled onto a lovely Jóhannsson piece I was not aware of before this: This gorgeous work now has an official release: KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Yes, it's an absolutely beautiful work! Some wonderful and strange stuff in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Jóhann Jóhannsson's estate is releasing unreleased music of his of the BLADE RUNNER 2049 ost exclusively through NFTs https://foundation.app/@JohannJohannsson TSMefford, enderdrag64 and Chewy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Can this bullshit die already? Can someone take his estate away from them? Been looking into him lately by the way - I've liked Arrival since I first saw the movie, but I now also instantly fell in love with Drone Mass and Last and First Men's soundscapes. The Shadow Play's also nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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