Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 London's a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 That master was a dub from a digital master, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,504 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 21/10/2017 at 5:10 PM, Jay said: Missing bits? No. CONTENT WISE, both are complete AND 100% the exact same takes as each other, the only difference is disk 2 / album version has the overlay and disk 1 version doesn't. SOUND "QUALITY" WISE, they are from completely different sources. The Disk 2 version is sourced from the 1/4" album master MM found in London of the already edited and mastered album track as was prepared in 1982, while the disk 1 version is completely rebuilt from scratch by MM from a 2017 192/24 digital transfer of the original session elements. Only you can decide which version you prefer, sound wise. Can you explain to humans that difference of the "overlay" between the two versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 It's a couple of french horn notes at the very front of the mix. Very notable. That's it. I believe it's at exactly 12:42 below. Hope this video is available in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I believe it's at exactly 12:42 below. Hope this video is available in Canada. It is not. Well again, was it on the 2002 MCA or will it be the first time I hear the horns next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 It wasn't on the 1996 or 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Brundlefly said: It is not. Well again, was it on the 2002 MCA or will it be the first time I hear the horns next year? For @Bespin as well. This video should be available outside the US? Horn overlay is at exactly 37:46 (just press play) Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,504 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Ok thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 It's always been listed very clearly in the spreadsheet, Bespin. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT0E9cHkK-SqctUuLKYjNov1cm3DB7Dol3CCfQqmXPJUbNqwIrwdNTtn4FqV212S-3e_GltYaEDIUM8/pubhtml The horn overlay plays at 12:42 of the original OST track "Adventure On Earth" or 4:38 on the LLL disc 2 "The Departure (Alternate)", and is missing on all other CD versions as well as all versions of the film itself at that same spot. It's just two extra notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,504 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 This morning, I'm not so well awake, I will check that tonight. Two notes. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 They're better than everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Jay said: They're better than everything Except Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 22/10/2017 at 10:33 PM, The Doctor said: London's a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 As I drove to work this morning I listened to tracks 3,4,5, 6, and 7 of the original E.T. soundtrack. It was still pitch dark outside. In essence it was the dark test. The score passed beyond all measure. KittBash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,715 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 In what meaning did they “pass”? I hope not sound quality-wise as that would be hard to assess in a car (unless the car is standing still). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Call me crazy, call me old-fashioned, but I was able to burn a completely readable audio CD of CD1 plus the three film tracks from CD2 (The Encounter, The Kiss and Levitation). It clocks at exactly 81:15 mins and it plays perfectly all the way to the end even with my beat up but very functional Sony Discman from 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Give it a rest dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 "Levitation" isn't a film cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 It was recorded for the film, but not used. And it fitted anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 This implies it was just dialed out, the scene it was written for is (a) not in any version of the movie and (b) a terrible scene rightfully deleted from the final cut. So yeah, it stays in the bonuses for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 So presumably you removed all music accompanying deleted scenes on the recent A.I., Hook and TLW releases? phbart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I generally defer to the album producer on these complete releases. No blanket rules. For E.T. specifically, I agreed with the producer that "Levitation" doesn't belong in the main program. Personal decision, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I generally defer to the cue list/composers original intent, like with The Palantir from Hobbit DOS. crumbs and CGCJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I think disc 1 is Williams' intent. Like I said, no blanket rules. For me, E.T. as it is in the final film is the greatest score ever recorded and that's what I want to listen to. No bonuses or deleted scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 As filtered by Matessino et al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, Fal said: I generally defer to the cue list/composers original intent, like with The Palantir from Hobbit DOS. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 It only has 40 secs, it fitted nicely into the already expanded capacity of a CD-R (you gotta love these old tech terms ) together with the other two cues, which actually are in the film, so I saw no problem in throwing it in. I mean, If the scene got to a point where the composer wrote and recorded a music for it, so I believe it was seriously considered to be in the film since the beggining and was edited out at latter stages, probably a last minute thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I reckon if the scene was included in the film far enough into the pipeline that Williams not only wrote the cue but recorded it, then it should be part of the listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Fair enough! It's just not part of mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Absolutely 100% agree with crumbs. The fact a scene is deleted from a final cut of the film or not has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not its part of the composer's narrative. It is. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Say it, Jay. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 I don't agree with Disco Stu on this one crumbs and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Good enough. I'll make it work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 October 25, 2017. The day the tide turned against Disco Stu. SAD crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 A great storm is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 My Main Program is: Added The Encounter,The Kiss and Levitation to main score Added E.T. Adventure , E.T. and Me and Over the Moon as concert versions after the End Credits Also added a rip of the Overture Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, king mark said: Added E.T. Adventure , E.T. and Me and Over the Moon as concert versions after the End Credits I did something similar except I put the BPO "Stargazers" at the end of the playlist instead of the OST "ET and Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,504 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 People still burn CD-R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 no, I made playlist in irunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bespin said: People still burn CD-R? What's wrong with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 23 hours ago, rough cut said: In what meaning did they “pass”? I hope not sound quality-wise as that would be hard to assess in a car (unless the car is standing still). As a new poster you may be unaware of the "dark test" which is a term I first used here about the turn of the century. It involves listened to a score in the dark. The dark test likits other sensory exposure. In the car Monday it was dark outside and I was by myself. The ride to work was peaceful and uneventful except for this magnificent work of art whichstill stirs the soul 35 years later. Sound quality is irrelevant to me. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,715 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 New poster? lol Some people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Because 2008 was only a couple of years ago. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Bespin said: People still burn CD-R? Yes, for my parents. They don't have digital audio players in their cars and I'm not going to show them how to listen to such crap on their phones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 10 hours ago, JoeinAR said: As a new poster you may be unaware of the "dark test" which is a term I first used here about the turn of the century. It involves listened to a score in the dark. The dark test likits other sensory exposure. In the car Monday it was dark outside and I was by myself. The ride to work was peaceful and uneventful except for this magnificent work of art whichstill stirs the soul 35 years later. Sound quality is irrelevant to me. Joe cares only about music quality. Sound quality is something only lesser fans talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 He must think brickwalled music is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,715 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 12 hours ago, JoeinAR said: The dark test likits other sensory exposure. And driving is the best way to limit sensory exposure? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, rough cut said: And driving is the best way to limit sensory exposure? Really? He has a weird driving fetish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,715 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Sure, driving and listening to music can be a satisfying experience, but using it as a kind of test, that a remastered cd should have to pass... I mean, if the purpose of that test would be to test the experience/musical quality of the OST, I guess it would be fine, but I enterpret this to be in regards to the remastered CD. But that experience would be more or less the same as the original CD, especially in a car, be it dark or not. Or maybe I’m missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yeah, I think the real test is whether it survives what I call "The Frisbee TestTM". If it still plays after being thrown from your car window at night at someone else who's listening to it in their car, it's a keeper. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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