crocodile 8,017 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The Nutcracker and the Four Realms. It was snowing today (quite a rare sight in the UK) so I put this on. I think it is really pleasant and, quite frankly, bit underappreciated work from James Newton Howard. EDIT: Wrong thread...but it still counts due to Tchaikovsky quotes. Karol Sylvan and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, crocodile said: The Nutcracker and the Four Realms. It was snowing today (quite a rare sight in the UK) so I put this on. I think it is really pleasant and, quite frankly, bit underappreciated work from James Newton Howard. EDIT: Wrong thread...but it still counts due to Tchaikovsky quotes. Karol It's a good score when whittled down. I have a 42-minute playlist that works and presents it in a much better light than the overlong OST. Great Tchaikovsky pastiche. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 It's too light for a Tchaikovsky pastiche. It just sounds incompetent. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Nah, it's fine. JNH knows his way around tropes, when called for it. His RESTORATION is one of my top 10 favourite scores of his, and the beautiful way it weaves around the Purcell stuff. Sylvan and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 That's also too much on the light side to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 It's perfection. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Purcell's music is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Calling JNH's The Nutcracker and the Four Realms pastiche is too friendly. That's no pastiche but patchwork. And no good one. But to be fair, at adapting one of the best musical works of romantic music he could only fail. But he didn't fail good. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Clearly, you guys must have heard a different score than I did. Sylvan and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 John Williams' Home Alone is a better adaptation of The Nutcracker than JNH's score. Nick1Ø66 and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: John Williams' Home Alone is a better adaptation of The Nutcracker than JNH's score. On THAT, we do agree! GerateWohl and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Terrible production, superb musicianship: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Mozart's harp and flute concerto, Karajan. What a lovely piece of music and what a performance. Sylvan and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Ah, a John Cage fan, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What? Sorry, when I loaded (and reloaded) the page nothing you shared came up. It was just a blank space. It's there now, I see. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 You can almost picture this music being used for Jaws 2. JTN and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Schubert symphony 1, Karajan. Soooooo noisy... and the menuet is insufferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Listening to an album called A String Quartet Christmas. You'd think someone would have had the brainwave to not just repeat every carol four times but to actually, you know, do some variations on them. What a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 It's been a long time since I've listened to J.S. Bach... but, hey, it's Christmas time! I made this "Festive" compilation: Magnificat in D Major, BWV 243 Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 in F Major, BWV 1046 Cantata "Gloria in excelsis Deo," BWV 191 Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F Major, BWV 1047 Christmas Oratorio (Weihnachts-Oratorium), BWV 248 Goldberg Variations, BWV 988 Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 in G Major, BWV 1048 Cantata "Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben," BWV 147 Brandenburg Concerto No. 4 in G Major, BWV 1049 Violin Concerto in E Major, BWV 1042 Tom Guernsey and JTN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Marian gave this to me a couple of years ago. Came with a magazine. Thanks again, time to pull it out again now. Trying desperately for some last-minute Christmas mood, despite covid infection and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 That's the one I gave you, that came with the JW issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Ah, was it you? Sorry about that! Thanks to you, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 You're welcome. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I wondered. Because I can't remember getting more than one, and that one I still have myself. Anyway, it's a fine album! It came with that BBC Music Magazine that had the Williams interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: It came with that BBC Music Magazine that had the Williams interview. Yes. Am I completely invisible? 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's the one I gave you, that came with the JW issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 No, the "BBC Music Magazine" marquee on the cover is. I missed that and wanted to clarify what magazine it came from. I actually googled what magazine it was, because I don't remember where I put my copy… Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It does say "THE BBC MUSIC MAGAZINE COLLECTION". 4 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: because I don't remember where I put my copy… Perhaps you gave it to Thor after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It does say "THE BBC MUSIC MAGAZINE COLLECTION". Apparently you're not the only one who's invisible, because I mention that: 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: No, the "BBC Music Magazine" marquee on the cover is. I was looking for a big logo or something on the cover image, so I didn't bother to check the fine print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It's not that fine, but okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Schubert's 11th string quartet. The first one I really enjoyed, also because it's not twice as long as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Shostakovich - Symphony No. 15 in A. In addition to the 5th, my favorite symphony by Dmitri Dmitriyevich. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A24 4,339 Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 Sounds surprisingly accomplished. Elfman has come a long way from the years of his Batman scores. Yavar Moradi, GerateWohl and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, A24 said: Elfman has come a long way from the years of his Batman scores. Oh you didn't... A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Reminds me a lot of Scelsi. Quote The main theme of "On the Guarding of the Heart" is the need to return into oneself, to descent with the intellect in to the depths of the heart, to guard it and to seek there the hidden treasure of the inner kingdom. The music is very stimulated by reading of the Philokalia; it is about a hard-achieved detachment, stillness and watchfulness, it is about solitude and exile. Sounds like an introvert's paradise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I especially like the 2nd movement. Like floating through space... karelm and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Loert said: I especially like the 2nd movement. Like floating through space... It’s highly chromatic, and reminds me very much of Williams’ space travel music like The Trip to Earth. I don’t know if it’s direct or indirect, but I hear an undercurrent of Vaughan-Willams in a lot of John Williams’ music. karelm and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 10 hours ago, Schilkeman said: I don’t know if it’s direct or indirect, but I hear an undercurrent of Vaughan-Willams in a lot of John Williams’ music. It's very direct. Holst, Walton, Vaughan Williams, Elgar, Sullivan, Butterworth, Bliss, Delius, Bax; JW loves them, all. Loert, karelm and Tom Guernsey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,512 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 22 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's very direct. Holst, Walton, Vaughan Williams, Elgar, Sullivan, Butterworth, Bliss, Delius, Bax; JW loves them, all. And Peter Maxwell Davies. Not sure I can hear a lot of him in JW's music, but he's expressed his love of the composer a few times. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'm not sure if I can hear it either, @Thor, but if JW likes him, then he likes him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We can finally play vinyls again! So I couldn't resist giving this a spin at last: Tchaikovsky, Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic – Serenade For Strings - Nutcracker Suite (1967, Vinyl) - Discogs Ah, the smell of the vinyl, the crackling... THE CRACKLING! To hell with the smart speakers that used to filter those little pops out. To the charity shop they will go. Also, could anyone explain to me why this sounds above and beyond any Rolling Stones record of that era? I mean, how did they have more money for Tchaikovsky than pop music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,836 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Does anyone know what is the best version of Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf, but without narration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 As was hinted above, Williams takes a lot of inspiration from Walton, particularly in terms of orchestration. The lively episode between 21:46-22:51 might as well have come straight out of one of Williams' scores. Yavar Moradi and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 hours ago, Loert said: As was hinted above, Williams takes a lot of inspiration from Walton, particularly in terms of orchestration. The lively episode between 21:46-22:51 might as well have come straight out of one of Williams' scores. Love me some Walton... on a similar tack, I was listening to some brass concertos by Danish composer Vagn Holmboe (one of my favourite classical composers, the heir to Carl Nielsen) and it occurred to me that if you like JW's works for those instruments, you'd probably like the Holmboe. Tuneful, lively, really terrific stuff, with great performances on this BIS album. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Love me some Walton... on a similar tack, I was listening to some brass concertos by Danish composer Vagn Holmboe (one of my favourite classical composers, the heir to Carl Nielsen) and it occurred to me that if you like JW's works for those instruments, you'd probably like the Holmboe. Tuneful, lively, really terrific stuff, with great performances on this BIS album. Heir to Nielsen? Colour me interested. …speaking of which, have I posted this before? Quote Among the driving forces behing Langgaard's hectic period of productivity towards the end of the 1940's seems to have been sheer pig-headedness, a form of protest against the musical world around him, and not least against Langgaard's private symbol for this, that is, Carl Nielsen. In 1948 Langgaard wrote the sarcastic choral work Carl Nielsen, vor store komponist (Carl Nielsen - our Great Composer), which of course he immediately sent in to the State Broadcasting Company as a suggested programme item. This composition is dedicated to "the world of music in Denmark", and consists of only 32 bars, which are to be "repeated for all eternity"! In a preface, the composer regrets that all his life he has had to accept the necessity of living and breathing in the world of Danish music, infected as it was by Carl Nielsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Heir to Nielsen? Colour me interested Well I don't know if that's how Holmboe is generally considered, but he's certainly a very worthy successor, and his stuff is well worth exploring, particularly the numerous concertos. 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: …speaking of which, have I posted this before? Subtle ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Subtle ;-) Langgaard. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan 10 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 22/1/2024 at 9:24 AM, filmmusic said: Does anyone know what is the best version of Prokofiev's Peter and the Wolf, but without narration? Versions without narration are sadly not too common but Bernstein conducting the New York Philharmonic is a pretty good one: filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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