Popular Post MikeH 768 Posted May 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2020 I’d pick Revenge of the Sith for sure. The storytelling connection to Luke’s moment in Ep 4 is a very satisfying way to wrap up those first six films. You might even say it rhymes! I think JW could have come up with some great alternatives for the sequel trilogy. Thoughts? oierem, crlbrg and Tiburon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,843 Posted May 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2020 For overall significance to the film series, ROTS. It's the perfect ending to what was the end of the SW saga. None of the other endings make as much sense or have as much meaning. For purely the music, I prefer the TFA version. The TROS version is a pointless rehash in more ways than one. Should have ended on a grand orchestral swell on Rey's theme. But so little of TROS makes sense any ways. TSMefford, crumbs, Chen G. and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 I would be interested to see if JW wrote any alternate versions for TFA that didn’t include it. Listening to the concert version of Jedi Steps, there are glimpses of what could’ve been if he’d just kept building on that theme and then crescendoing into the end credits. It’d definitely be a darker approach. We do know that there’s an alternate for TROS that at least has a different bridge to the end credits instead of simply repeating TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, MikeH said: I would be interested to see if JW wrote any alternate versions for TFA that didn’t include it. Listening to the concert version of Jedi Steps, there are glimpses of what could’ve been if he’d just kept building on that theme and then crescendoing into the end credits. It’d definitely be a darker approach. We do know that there’s an alternate for TROS that at least has a different bridge to the end credits instead of simply repeating TFA. Really?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Will said: Really?! From that Horn hangout I believe Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Will said: Really?! Yup! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeH said: I would be interested to see if JW wrote any alternate versions for TFA that didn’t include it. Listening to the concert version of Jedi Steps, there are glimpses of what could’ve been if he’d just kept building on that theme and then crescendoing into the end credits. It’d definitely be a darker approach. There is an alternate version of Jedi Steps but, based on what the lead french horn player said, the actual Binary Sunset recording was the same in both versions (and Williams didn't re-record it when they recorded the new version of Jedi Steps). I think we know there's no alternates for the very end of The Last Jedi, but originally there was a different version of Luke's death. TROS was the perfect opportunity for a Rey's Theme finale, to signify that a new journey lies ahead for Rey, not just a literal regurgitation of the musical identity that began Luke's journey. Such predictable and unimaginative spotting; shame these filmmakers just couldn't break out of that mold with some of these musical choices. Arpy and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Can I pick none of them? Haha. I like the idea best in ROTS. But the transition to the credits has always been so unsatisfying for me. With Star Wars, I want the beginning of the credits to provide some musical resolution, but with ROTS, it's just kind of a weird surprise, like, "Oh, okay, the movie's...over?" TFA I like a little better in terms of the transition, but it was also the film that turned the Force theme ending from a one-time deal to a very misguided tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 There's only one Binary Sunset, and none of the above nostalgia fills qualify. Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I picked The Last Jedi - musically, they're all about the same for me, but I like how it fits the scene in TLJ the best. Tiburon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 The clone wars film also ends with binary sunset.... Tiburon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Rogue One ends with the Force Theme too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 360 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, gkgyver said: There's only one Binary Sunset, and none of the above Thank you, so true - the remainder is called "dilution". (and that, for me, goes for the so-called films too) gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I prefer Star Wars. filmmusic and Martinland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 What about the best non-binary sunset SW music ending? That's gotta be AOTC right? MikeH and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, artguy360 said: What about the best non-binary sunset SW music ending? That's gotta be AOTC right? Yes indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, artguy360 said: What about the best non-binary sunset SW music ending? That's gotta be AOTC right? Yep, AOTC. Not even a contest for me. He never achieved those dizzying heights in the 4 finale cues that followed (doesn't help that 2 of them just copy + pasted the previous two films). Those final cues were traditionally the best opportunity to present the new themes in their most dynamic statements, with all the dialogue and sound effects stripped back. Such a missed opportunity, doubly so when the material preceding Binary Sunset in all 3 sequels was significantly more interesting. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 For non-, it’s ESB all the way for me, followed by SW and then AOTC. (And then Jedi and last TPM). (And then a last place tie for Binary Sunset Finales). Holko and Martinland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 For that binary sunset moment, I also go with Revenge of the Sith, although I kind of like the consistency ending on the sequels (in which I prefer TLJ rendition, I think also that the musical moment has more sense than in the other two sequels). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilverTrumpet 638 Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 It's not even that they used Binary Sunset at the end of every one of the movies. It's that it was the exact same sounding Binary Sunset with the exact same bridge into the credits that made it so disappointing. It feels obligatory instead of meaningful. crumbs, Martinland and Datameister 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 56 minutes ago, DrTenma said: (in which I prefer TLJ rendition, I think also that the musical moment has more sense than in the other two sequels). Agreed. Of the 4 instances of Binary Sunset in the sequels, the Last Jedi ones make the most sense. Thematically, the young boy gazing at the stars is a beautiful companion to that original scene in Star Wars, and it makes perfect sense to use when Luke's journey comes full circle during his death. Both Abrams renditions are so damn lazy and obvious. Oh, it's Luke on an island! We need Binary Sunset because he had a scene with that music decades ago! Oh look, Rey's at the same place Luke once looked at a sunset, in a totally different emotional place having completed her journey. Binary Sunset music! DrTenma and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, artguy360 said: What about the best non-binary sunset SW music ending? That's gotta be AOTC right? ANH, ESB, and AOTC are all so stinking good, and I actually really like the TPM transition too. If I absolutely had to choose, though, I'd probably go with ANH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 360 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 hours ago, artguy360 said: What about the best non-binary sunset SW music ending? That's gotta be AOTC right? Hmmm. I think I have to give this one a proper re-listen tonight. I suspect I only listened to the CD once when it came out. Thanks for pointing that out. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Revenge of the Sith, mostly because of all four its the only actual Star Wars film. The other three (while I will admit two of them are better-made movies than Sith) sit outside the cycle. Its like if some composer decided to do a sequel to Gotterdamerung and we were now asked to pretend it was part of the Ring Cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Well, Sith is like a prequel to Das Rheingold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 It was more of a comparison to accentuate how foreign the sequel trilogy is to the body of the "saga". In terms of actually comparing Star Wars films to the Ring...Wagner would be spinning in his grave to hear of Gotterdamerung being compared to Return of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 7:03 AM, gkgyver said: There's only one Binary Sunset, and none of the above nostalgia fills qualify. Agreed. For this poll: Revenge of the Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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