What would have been your Oscar choice for Best Original Score? (2010's)

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

So @igger6has make a nice poll with the Oscars and I thought it might be interresting to extend it and organise the JWFan's own Academy Awards. Now I can't include everyone's choice so I've decide to give the same nominees as the Oscars with some little add where John Williams wasn't nominated.

I've only done the 2010's for now as it's quite long to do but I think I'll try to do the previous years later.

[Jay 37,374]

Nice poll!

 

Interesting to look back and see that Grand Budapest Hotel is the only time in the past 10 years that the score that actually won was also my favorite of the nominees

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Same for me but for La La Land (although it's quite tuf to choose between the two)

I think this would be one of the few time where I would give the Oscar to someone before Williams

[Disco Stu 15,495]

 

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

@Disco Stu

[Thor 7,521]

My selections in the poll are easily viewable, so I won't repeat them here (I'm often the odd one out again in my selections, as usual).

 

But interesting to compare them to my favourite scores of each year:

 

2010: INCEPTION - Hans Zimmer (nominated, but didn't win)

2011: JANE EYRE - Dario Marianelli (not nominated)

2012: LIFE OF PI - Mychael Danna (nominated and WON!)

2013: PRISONERS - Jóhann Jóhannsson (not nominated)

2014: THE UNKNOWN KNOWN - Danny Elfman (not nominated)

2015: THE DUKE OF BURGUNDY - Cat's Eyes (not nominated)

2016: NERVE - Rob Simonsen (not nominated)

2017: VALLEY OF SHADOWS - Zbigniew Preisner (not nominated)

2018: VIDEOMAN - Waveshaper & Robert Parker (not nominated)

2019: A HIDDEN LIFE - James Newton Howard (not nominated)

[Naïve Old Fart 9,554]

Who are the two £+%&@£%s who voted for INfuckingCEPTION??!!!

 

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

1 minute ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Who are the two £+%&@£%s who voted for INfuckingCEPTION??!!!

 

The £+%&@£% who made the poll and it was quite hard to choose between this one and HTTYD I have to admit

[Jay 37,374]

Inception is fine, but How To Train Your Dragon is just better

[Thor 7,521]

INCEPTION blows anything else out of the water that year. HTTYD is OK, but overrated in film score circles, IMO.

[Edmilson 7,473]

Both scores work great in their respective movies. I'd be happy if any of them won, as they deserved more that Oscar than Resznor and Ross.

[Drew 590]

What's the point of this poll if it has scores that were not nominated?

[Jay 37,374]

Fun?

[Edmilson 7,473]

The 2010s poll has some of the most boring nominees ever. For instance, in 2016 both Desplat's The Light Between the Oceans and JNH's Fantastic Beasts should've been in the run, as they're better than any of the nominated scores.

 

Gia should've been nominated in 2015 for either Tomorrowland or Inside Out.

[Jay 37,374]

Howard Shore's work on the Hobbit trilogy wasn't recognized by the academy at all either

Of course they aren't as good as his LOTR scores, but in those 3 years that they were coming out, they were among the best scores anyone was writing at the time

[Edmilson 7,473]

I remember back in 2013 that I was pretty shocked when I saw that Shore's An Unexpected Journey wasn't nominated, but Newman's Skyfall was. Until then I was sure AUJ would receive some love from the Academy.

[Jay 37,374]

Now that I think about it, as far as the first film/score goes, if they had to vote for nominations based off of an FYC presentation that only had film edits, they would have heard a lot of LOTR retreads and not any of the cool original stuff recorded that PJ axed from the final cut

 

Maybe that helps to explain it

[bruce marshall 1,315]

BFG was nominated?!😳

[Jay 37,374]

Read the poll more carefully

[bruce marshall 1,315]

I wonder the results if no JW scores were included

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

Just now, Thor said:

INCEPTION blows

 

I'm inclined to agree.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

What's the point of this poll if it has scores that were not nominated?

The idea was just to know if some of us would have prefer to give an Oscar to a non nominated Williams' score rather than the actual winner. Now I've done this only for the Williams score as we are on the JWFan and he's my favourite composer

15 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

I wonder the results if no JW scores were included

It would be interesting but I'm not sure I'll do it's too long and I still have to do the 70's, 60's but those will wait until tomorrow

[bruce marshall 1,315]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Read the poll more carefully

And it won on this poll!

😵

[SteveMc 2,674]

The Book Thief so much deserved to win

[Bellosh 3,419]

31 minutes ago, SteveMc said:

The Book Thief so much deserved to win

 

It really did.  That honestly should have been JW's most recent Oscar.  Maybe TFA (assuming the Academy is done with Star Wars) 

 

But most definitely The Book Thief.  With the other scores it went up with, it should have easily won.

[bruce marshall 1,315]

6 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Both scores work great in their respective movies. I'd be happy if any of them won, as they deserved more that Oscar than Resznor and Ross.

That was excellent also#

10 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

....this would be one of the few time where I would give the Oscar to someone before Williams

,You find this acceptable?"

😉

 

 

 

One good thing about this poll: it helps me separate the mob from the individuals.

For instance, the two people who voted with me for JOKER. They can be trusted. The rest of you? I dunno.

😎

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

7 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

,You find this acceptable?"

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

So I think it might be a good day to make give the JWFan academy awards:

 

The winner for Best Original Score, according to the JWFan, are:

 

70's (where the mention "none of them" was largely stronger I've decided not to declare a winner so some year might not appear for the other category than Original Score)

1970: Patton by Jerry Goldsmith

1970 Let It Be by The Beatles (Original Song Score)

1971: Shaft by Isaac Hayes (I assumed that people who voted for none of them don't all have the same choice)

1971: Fiddler on the Roof by John Williams (Scoring Adaptation)

1972: The Godfather by Nino Rota ex aequo Images by John Williams

1973: Papillon by Jerry Goldsmith

1974: Chinatown by Jerry Goldsmith

1975: Jaws by John Williams

1975: Barry Lyndon by Leonard Rosenman (I assumed that people who voted for none of them don't all have the same choice)

1976: The Omen by Jerry Goldsmith

1977:  Star Wars by John Williams

1978: Superman by John Williams

1979: Star Trek: The Motion Picture by Jerry Goldsmith (although I know that many would have vote for Alien if it would have been nominated)

 

 

80's (just the Original Score as in the other category the mention "none of them" is largely stronger)

1980: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back by John Williams (Shame on those who didn't voted for it )

1981: Raiders of the Lost Ark by John Williams (again shame on them )

1982: E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial by John Williams (....)

1983: Star Wars: Return of the Jedi by John Williams

1984: Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom by John Williams

1985: Out of Africa by John Barry

1986: The Mission by Ennio Morricone

1987: Empire of the Sun by John Williams

1988: The Accidental Tourist by John Williams (I assumed that people who voted for none of them don't all have the same choice)

1989: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade by John Williams

 

90's

1990: Dance with the Wolves by John Barry

1991: Hook by John Williams

1992: Far and Away by John Williams

1993: Schindler's List by John Williams

1994: The Shawshank Redemption by Thomas Newman

1995: Braveheart by James Horner (in the Dramatic Score Category)

1995: Pocahontas by Alan Menken & Stephen Schartz ex aequo Sabrina by John Williams (Comedy Catergory)

1996: The English Patient by Gabriel Yared ex aequo Sleepers by John Williams (I assumed that people who voted for none of them don't all have the same choice)

1996: The Hunchback of Notre Dame by Alan Menken & Stephen Schartz (Comedy Category)

1997: Titanic by James Horner (Dramatic Category)

1997: Men in Black by Danny Elfman (I assumed that people who voted for none of them don't all have the same choice)

1998: Saving Private Ryan by John Williams (Dramatic Category)

1998: Mulan by Jerry Goldsmith (Comedy Category)

1999: Star Wars: The Phantom Menace by John Williams

 

2000's

2000: Gladiator by Hans Zimmer

2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring by Howard Shore

2002: Catch Me If You Can by John Williams

2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King by Howard Shore

2004: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban by John Williams

2005: Memoirs of a Geisha by John Williams

2006: Pan's Labyrinth by Javier Navarrete (I assumed that people who voted for none of them don't all have the same choice)

2007: Ratatouille by Michael Giacchino

2008: WALL-E by Thomas Newman

2009: Up by Michael Giacchino

 

2010's

2010: How to Train Your Dragon  by John Powell

2011: War Horse by John Williams

2012: Lincoln by John Williams

2013: The Book Thief by John Williams

2014: Interstellar by Hans Zimmer

2015: Star Wars: The Force Awakens by John Williams

2016: The BFG by John Williams

2017: Star Wars: The Last Jedi by John Williams

2018: Solo a Star Wars Story by John Powell & John Williams

2019: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker by John Williams

 

Total:

John Williams: 31 wins (1971, 1972, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019)

Jerry Goldsmith: 6 wins (1970, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1979, 1998)

John Barry: 2 wins (1985, 1990)

Thomas Newman: 2 wins (1994, 2008)

James Horner: 2 wins (1995, 1997)

Alan Menken: 2 wins (1995, 1996)

Stephen Schartz: 2 wins (1995, 1996)

Hans Zimmer: 2 wins (2000, 2014)

Howard Shore: 2 wins (2001, 2003)

Michael Giacchino: 2 wins (2007, 2009)

John Powell: 2 wins (2010, 2018)

The Beatles: 1 win (1970)

Isaac Hayes: 1 win (1971)

Nino Rota: 1 win (1972)

Leonard Rosenman: 1 win (1975)

Ennio Morricone: 1 win (1986)

Gabriel Yared: 1 win (1996)

Danny Elfman: 1 win (1997)

Javier Navarrete: 1 win (2006)

[Thor 7,521]

Ha, ha.....that's what you get for posting a poll like this on a John Williams fan board, I guess.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

True but as I didn't make the 60's poll I assume he might have won more...

[bruce marshall 1,315]

Now that's what I call an objective, unbiased,  carefully considered poll!😉

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Well it's certainly not the most eclectic poll but the Maestro did write so much perfect scores!

31 wins is maybe too much, biased and subjective but I've to say that the five from the Academy is pretty ridiculous compare to what he should have won, like the 8 from Goldsmith here instead of just one. Maybe one day the balance will be restored... or not, anyway it's still fun to do this!

[bruce marshall 1,315]

I don't know how many Grammys or BAFTAS, but I bet it's more than OSCAR.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

I think it's 25 Grammy out of 72 nominations and 7 BAFTAs out of 16 nominations

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

25 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

I don't know how many Grammys or BAFTAS, but I bet it's more than OSCAR.

 

I'm sure he gets a lot of grannys now.

[Edmilson 7,473]

10 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

John Williams: 31 wins (1971, 1972, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019)

 

 

lol

 

I'm surprised that JWFanners didn't vote for Williams in the 2000s poll though.

 

10 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

Jerry Goldsmith: 6 wins (1970, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1979, 1998)

 

 

That would've been great if it happened in real life. Jerry surely deserved way more Oscars than he actually got.

 

 

[bruce marshall 1,315]

1 hour ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

I think it's 25 Grammy out of 72 nominations and 7 BAFTAs out of 16 nominations

Makes sense.

The voters are judging music, not whether he's " won enough, let's give it to the other guy".

Zimmer might be a similar case. Like Williams, he hasn't won since mid- Nineties despite many noms and excellent scores.

53 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

 

lol

 

I'm surprised that JWFanners didn't vote for Williams in the 2000s poll though.

 

 

That would've been great if it happened in real life. Jerry surely deserved way more Oscars than he actually got.

 

 

Ironically, I think he should have won in 1975

and lost in.1976!

[Edmilson 7,473]

41 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

Ironically, I think he should have won in 1975

and lost in.1976!

I love The Wind and the Lion, but there's no way Jaws would've lost that year.

 

Also, why there's no wins for JNH there? 

[bruce marshall 1,315]

6 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

I think it's 25 Grammy out of 72 nominations and 7 BAFTAs out of 16 nominations

Do you know which scores - equivalent.

to a BEST SCORE FOR A MOTION PICTURE Oscar-were honored by.those groups?

 

Not interested in secondary items like arrangements etc

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

[mrbellamy 6,293]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_John_Williams

 

BAFTA only has a Best Score category. He was awarded 7 times for 8 different scores which were The Towering Inferno & Jaws (jointly), Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, ET, Empire of the Sun, Schindler's List, and Memoirs of a Geisha

 

The Grammys are a little weird because they change their category titles and qualifications over the years but he basically won 11 times for Best Score, Best Soundtrack Album, or sometimes Best Instrumental Composition for an entire score or album rather than an individual piece. Those were Jaws, Star Wars, Close Encounters, Superman, The Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, ET, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, Memoirs of a Geisha, and Star Wars: The Force Awakens

 

In both cases he's won more often and more recently than Oscar

[bruce marshall 1,315]

Thanks.

Grammy is tricky for the reasons you mention.

Morricone has also been honored by Grammy and BAFTA far more than OSCAR!

Interesting about GEISHA.

The music is excellent but iirc it was not a commercial success.

But, people still recognized.the music!

[mrbellamy 6,293]

The Golden Globes also gave it to Geisha! Brokeback winning the Oscar was a real upset, and probably won for that last scene alone ("Jack, I swear") where I would say the music is quite effective and memorable for what it is. Obviously not the same musical achievement.

 

I think of course giving John Williams 31 Oscars is nutty even if I would probably give him that many myself! Interesting that BAFTA and Grammy shared a consensus around Empire Strikes Back and Memoirs of a Geisha plus agreeing with the Academy on Jaws, Star Wars, ET, and Schindler's List. I think those two would have been a fair boost to his Oscar tally, Empire being a popular choice for his #1 greatest score and Memoirs being a unique standout in his post-Schindler career.

[bruce marshall 1,315]

I only know GEISHA from the score CD which is a very nice listen!

[Joni Wiljami 1,206]

No love for the Joker except some morons. Tonedeaf besserwissers. 

 

[bruce marshall 1,315]

The non- nominated BFG actually ' won'!

😵

Im resigning in protest!😠

[Jay 37,374]

It's a wonderful score full of strong, memorable themes

[Joni Wiljami 1,206]

. 

[bruce marshall 1,315]

22 hours ago, Edmilson said:

 

 

Also, why there's no wins for JNH there? 

Besides, possibly, SIXTH SENSE, he doesn't measure.up.

Just now, Jay said:

It's a wonderful score full of strong, memorable themes

1 minute ago, T.RASK said:

Thank you

You would say that.😞😔😒

[Edmilson 7,473]

13 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

Besides, possibly, SIXTH SENSE, he doesn't measure.up.

He could've won in 2002 (Signs wasn't nominated, but it's a better score than Goldenthal's Frida) and 2008 for Defiance (which I like more than A.R. Rahman's Slumdog Millionaire). 

 

And actually, he maybe could've won in 2004 as well for The Village, although this was a pretty crowded year, in which all the scores that lost (Village, HP3, Lemony Snicket and Passion of the Christ) are better choices than the one that actually won (thee forgettable Finding Neverland).

[bruce marshall 1,315]

To each his own.I really liked PAWN SACRIFICE which didn't even get a CD😞