Gordy Haab & Stephen Barton's STAR WARS JEDI: SURVIVOR (2023)

[Groovygoth666 670]

11 minutes ago, Jaaaackified said:

 

Check his recent facebook posts

Why not provide a link directly to his Facebook posts? 

[Giftheck 916]

1 hour ago, Groovygoth666 said:

Why not provide a link directly to his Facebook posts? 

 

Because they don't exist. I'm looking at Haab's FB page right now. Loads of stuff about nominations. Not one saying 'here's the sheet music'.

[Groovygoth666 670]

2 minutes ago, Giftheck said:

 

Because they don't exist. I'm looking at Haab's FB page right now. Loads of stuff about nominations. Not one saying 'here's the sheet music'.

Well that certainly would make it difficult for @Jaaaackified to support their claim 

[Jaaaackified 81]

4 minutes ago, Groovygoth666 said:

Well that certainly would make it difficult for @Jaaaackified to support their claim 

I just checked the link Haab posted to share the full score. Apparently the file is now removed (the FB post too). 

 

 

Here's the screenshot I took when I found out earlier today. 

[Groovygoth666 670]

7 minutes ago, Jaaaackified said:

I just checked the link Haab posted to share the full score. Apparently the file is now removed (the FB post too). 

 

 

Here's the screenshot I took when I found out earlier today. 

That's fair enough, but if you had the link to begin with why not provide it when asked for a source?

 

Sorry I don't mean to sound rude or anything just want to understand why make a claim then not back it up? 

[Jaaaackified 81]

11 minutes ago, Groovygoth666 said:

That's fair enough, but if you had the link to begin with why not provide it when asked for a source?

 

Sorry I don't mean to sound rude or anything just want to understand why make a claim then not back it up? 

 

First off, I didn't expect the post to be removed since I thought Haab would leave it there for anyone to grab (because, well, he shared it with an open link). 

But looking back I should have been more clear on which channel did Haab share the info, to save all the skeptical and vetting eyes. 

And you did sound rude. 

[Groovygoth666 670]

56 minutes ago, Jaaaackified said:

And you did sound rude. 

Then it's a good thing I apologised for it. 

[Jay 37,369]

Always provide a link to news stuff like this. 

 

It's actually specifically required per the forum rules.

[SilverTrumpet 638]

https://twitter.com/ComposerBarton/status/1733321115270013160

 

This was the link on Twixxer, before it got nuked.

 

I got it before it was gone, though. 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

So both Gordy and Stephen shared it. Very interesting...

[Jaaaackified 81]

5 hours ago, SilverTrumpet said:

https://twitter.com/ComposerBarton/status/1733321115270013160

 

This was the link on Twixxer, before it got nuked.

 

I got it before it was gone, though. 

 

The post's gone now

[FunnyML 82]

Thanks guys.

[Archive Collection 214]

Since it was a promotional score - like an FYC album uploaded to Disney’s award sites, would there be any reason why someone couldn’t reshare it on here…?

[LB Makes Stuff 240]

[Faleel 5,353]

10 minutes ago, LB Makes Stuff said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=502511718&story_fbid=10161380489966719

[LB Makes Stuff 240]

I don’t have bookface y’all, sorry

[artus_grayboot 77]

So glad he put it back up! Here’s the link: https://app.box.com/v/jedisurvivor

[The Lost Folio 183]

Amazing! Now, we only need John Williams to share his Star Wars scores on his Facebook page...

 

Actually, is this the very first complete Star Wars score made available officially? Has he shared Jedi: Fallen Order too?

[Jaaaackified 81]

14 minutes ago, The Lost Folio said:

Amazing! Now, we only need John Williams to share his Star Wars scores on his Facebook page...

 

Actually, is this the very first complete Star Wars score made available officially? Has he shared Jedi: Fallen Order too?

 

No, not in the form of a full score book. 

 

but IIRC, all tracks from Jedi Fallen Order can be found at music copyright depository sites. The Complete Cue List thread has some of them. 

[TheAvengerButton 175]

This is amazing.

 

I have still yet to give this score a full listen besides a few highlights. I've been  B A L L S  D E E P  in Squadrons, taking notes on that.

[Trope 527]

Massive respect to both composers for releasing this FOR FREE!!! This is insane. I hope more composers follow suit in the future.

[Giftheck 916]

I could buy it if the link still worked, but the post disappearing and the file being terminated make me doubt that removing it was 'accidental'.

 

Nevertheless, cool of him to share it.

[ragoz350 450]

It's a very unique case. For a composers to share the complete full score for free. It's clear that access will close again after a while, but given the scale of this project..... it's something historically significant 

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

He also posted it on Twitter

https://x.com/ComposerBarton/status/1733994545644556446?s=20

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

But is any of this music any good?

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

Yes, very much, for both games

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

I'm still having a hard time to get into the music. Partly because of the amount and partly because somehow I'm not able to spot the themes in the score itself

[Knight of Ren 789]

On 11/12/2023 at 3:58 PM, JNHFan2000 said:

I'm still having a hard time to get into the music. Partly because of the amount and partly because somehow I'm not able to spot the themes in the score itself

I have a shorter playlist of Fallen Order that perhaps may help you appreciate the score a bit better. It's focused on the character and emotion cues, also including some of my favorite action stuff, that properly develops the thematic material. I'm properly exploring the score for Survivor and I'm planning on doing something similar too:

Spoiler

01 Cal Kestis

04 The Inquisition

05 Fight and Flight

07 BD-1 and the Boglings

08 Oggdo Boggdo

09 The Path of the Three Sages

15 The Mantis Lands

20 Saw's Speech

23 Trilla

24 Crashed Venator

32 Memories of Days Past

35 Failure is Not the End

36 A New Saber

38 Peacekeepers

39 Taron Malicos

40 Merrin

41 Opening the Vault

42 Fortress Inquisitorious

43 The Will of the Force

44 Eno Cordova's Theme

 

As for the themes and what they represent, I definitely recommend @TheAvengerButton's breakdown in this post:

Those selected cues above highlight all the main themes for each character, and while I feel some other cues could be added to include smaller motifs, I decided to keep it under an hour and a half for better listening experience!

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

On 11/12/2023 at 11:58 AM, JNHFan2000 said:

I'm still having a hard time to get into the music. Partly because of the amount and partly because somehow I'm not able to spot the themes in the score itself

It's mostly original themes and motifs in the score, "Flight", "Above the Clouds", and "Siege" are the ones where the previous themes get to shine the most. "Cold Dawn" and "A Step Too Far" goes through a few of them too. 

 

While we wait Knight of Ren and The Avenger Button, gonna list a few of the new themes that I already recognize.

 

Dark Times starts with the Empire theme for the game.

A Frontier Welcome develops a theme for the planet Koboh.

The Bedlam Raiders starts with the theme for... The Badlam Raiders.

Haven / Release Me develop themes related to the antagonist Dagan Gera

Fields of Dusk is the love theme for the game

The Sacred Mesa develops a theme related to Jedha

Above the Clouds also has the clearest rendition of Bode's theme

(Grand Oculus has a blink and you'll miss it quote from the force theme mixed with Dagan's theme)

[Laserschwert 475]

On 13/12/2023 at 6:42 PM, Knight of Ren said:

I have a shorter playlist of Fallen Order that perhaps may help you appreciate the score a bit better.

Wow, thanks a lot! I had the same problem as well, with being a bit overwhelmed by the amount of music. But this is a beautiful 1-CD selection that flows like a well curated OST.

 

"A New Saber" is one hell of a swashbuckling track!

[darkspine10 9]

On 18/12/2023 at 5:22 PM, Gabriel Bezerra said:

It's mostly original themes and motifs in the score, "Flight", "Above the Clouds", and "Siege" are the ones where the previous themes get to shine the most. "Cold Dawn" and "A Step Too Far" goes through a few of them too. 

 

While we wait Knight of Ren and The Avenger Button, gonna list a few of the new themes that I already recognize.

 

Dark Times starts with the Empire theme for the game.

A Frontier Welcome develops a theme for the planet Koboh.

The Bedlam Raiders starts with the theme for... The Badlam Raiders.

Haven / Release Me develop themes related to the antagonist Dagan Gera

Fields of Dusk is the love theme for the game

The Sacred Mesa develops a theme related to Jedha

Above the Clouds also has the clearest rendition of Bode's theme

(Grand Oculus has a blink and you'll miss it quote from the force theme mixed with Dagan's theme)

Additionally there's a theme for the Shattered Moon, most obviously playing at 0:26 in Shattered Moon and on a few further occasions throughout the score. To my ear it's very reminiscent of the Atlantis theme from Atlantis: The Lost Empire.

[Knight of Ren 789]

Yeah, I think all the main themes have already been listed above. I've been listening to Survivor quite a bit, and I came up with a shorter playlist as I did with Fallen Order. It's a bit more action heavy, as that's the cues where the main themes, both old and new, get to shine more, and I left out some great tracks more focused on exploration or ambient music, which also have some great moments, but also can be a bit too long at times. I did include Fields of Dusk because even if it's an exploration track, the main melody returns a couple of times as a love theme. Also, a couple of tracks have some awkward edits to transition between cues, but nothing can be done about that, sadly:

 

Spoiler

01 Dark Times

15 Haven

20 Fields of Dusk

27 Flight

29 To the Rescue

32 Warrior's Code

34 Above the Clouds

35 Grand Occulus

36 A Step Too Far

37 The Siege

38 The Visitor

42 Brothers

43 Through Darkness

44 Cold Dawn

 

The second game reprises 5 of the themes from Fallen Order: Cal, Cere, Merrin, Eno Cordova and BD-1, but these last two are barely in it.

 

Cal's theme is much more prominent this theme, and can be heard a lot of times in exploration tracks, as well as some great action variants, joining some of the other themes. Merrin's theme gets to shine in Flight and also in the second half of Siege, which also allows Cere's theme to develop in some brilliant emotional variations.

 

Cordova's theme serves as a menu theme again in Cold Dawn, joined by Cal's theme and the new Empire theme. It also appears at the beginning of The Narkis Anchorites, and at 6:30 of The Visitor, which also features some subtle references to the Imperial March after that. And BD-1's theme only appears briefly at 1:15 of The Bedlam Raiders, as far as my ear caught.

 

As for the new themes, @Gabriel Bezerra mentioned almost all of them, so I will give some audio examples for further clarification.

 

The Empire theme is all over the game, usually clashing with Cal's theme, but also joining some other characters affected by it one way or another, like Dagan Gera or Bode Akuna:

 

Rayvis and the Bedlam Raiders receive a dissonant fanfare introduced in their titular track, but that really shines in action variants in tracks like Warrior's Code

 

Dagan Gera has a very malleable theme, that can be heard in softer and majestic variations, like in the example below, but also turns quite dark and aggressive in some of his action pieces, like later in Haven or in tracks like To the Rescue or Grand Occulus

 

 

Bode Akuna's theme is heroic and bright in its first appearances, and as the story progresses turns appropriately darker and menacing, confronting Cal's theme in tracks like A Step Too Far

 

 

Nova Garon introduces a motif in its second half, for character that might become more important in a third part of the series, Kata Akuna. This descending motif can be heard in full at the beginning of Through the Darkness

 

 

These are the main new themes for the characters of the game, and there are also several ideas for the different areas of the game:

 

The Koboh theme appears in A Frontier Welcome, Where the Nekkos Roam or Rambler's Reach

 

 

The Forest's Secrets develops a motif that also appears in Basalt Scars

 

Fields of Dusk features what the composers called the love theme, that also appears in A Step Too Far and The Abyss

 

 

Shattered Moon has a motif for the titular planet that indeed reminds me of JNH's Atlantis theme in its second phrase, and that appears again in Course Collider and Warrior's Code

 

I haven't been able to identify yet the theme for Jedha mentioned above that appears in The Sacred Mesa, but I will check again those tracks to see if I can catch it.

 

And I think that's pretty much it. I don't think I missed any important motif, but feel free to correct me!

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

BD-1's theme appears briefly in Beneath the Cantina too

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

Woke up with A Step Too Far in my head and went to work listening to it.

 

Still don't know how they managed to make the orchestra sound so... angry. Maybe it's in my head since I know what it is scoring.

[TheAvengerButton 175]

On 29/01/2024 at 8:21 AM, Gabriel Bezerra said:

Woke up with A Step Too Far in my head and went to work listening to it.

 

Still don't know how they managed to make the orchestra sound so... angry. Maybe it's in my head since I know what it is scoring.

 

I've been listening to this score off and on and where the orchestration is top notch for this sort of thing, the mix on this album is something else and it's added a bit of different energy to the proceedings. Makes everything 11.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

What's that - a new Star Wars character?