The Doctor Who Thread.....

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

Can't wait for Sunday evening.

[Tallguy 3,401]

What's Sunday?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

It's the day after Saturday 

 

 

Seriously though, BBC Radio 2 is broadcasting the 60th Anniversary Concert, this Sunday, at 20.00hrs, BST.

[Tallguy 3,401]

Nice!

 

(I thought that they finally announced a start date and that it was going to END on November 23rd. Seriously, I had this ALL figured out.)

[CGCJ 394]

3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Seriously though, BBC Radio 2 is broadcasting the 60th Anniversary Concert, this Sunday, at 20.00hrs, BST.

It's already on BBC Sounds: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r92n

 

Spoiler

1 I Am The Doctor - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
2 All The Strange, Strange Creatures - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
3 'Classic' Doctor Who Medley - Radiophonic Workshop (Mark Ayres & Peter Howell) & BBC National Orchestra of Wales
4 Abigail's Song (Silence Is All You Know) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales, BBC Singers & Rebecca Lea
5 This Is Gallifrey - BBC National Orchestra of Wales
6 The Rings Of Akhaten (The Long Song) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
7 The Companions Suite - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
8 Doomsday - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
9 Vale Decem - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
10 A Good Man? - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
11 I Am A Good Man - BBC National Orchestra of Wales
12 Suite: The Woman Who Fell To Earth - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
13 The Life of Sunday (Ruby's Theme) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales
14 Fifteen - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
15 The Shepherd's Boy - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
16 Doctor Who Theme (2023 version) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers

 

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

13 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Squee!

Goosebumps and 'something in my eye' at that still spirit-soaring middle-eight, especially with the choral addition. 

It is SO good to have Gold back. 

[iamleyeti 114]

Wow. Awesome vibe. I love it!

[Tallguy 3,401]

3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Goosebumps and 'something in my eye' at that still spirit-soaring middle-eight, especially with the choral addition. 

 

I can't argue with that.

[Brónach 1,302]

could we be getting a theme for Fifteen but not Fourteen?

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

On 13/10/2023 at 11:31 AM, CGCJ said:

It's already on BBC Sounds: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r92n

 

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1 I Am The Doctor - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
2 All The Strange, Strange Creatures - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
3 'Classic' Doctor Who Medley - Radiophonic Workshop (Mark Ayres & Peter Howell) & BBC National Orchestra of Wales
4 Abigail's Song (Silence Is All You Know) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales, BBC Singers & Rebecca Lea
5 This Is Gallifrey - BBC National Orchestra of Wales
6 The Rings Of Akhaten (The Long Song) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
7 The Companions Suite - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
8 Doomsday - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
9 Vale Decem - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
10 A Good Man? - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
11 I Am A Good Man - BBC National Orchestra of Wales
12 Suite: The Woman Who Fell To Earth - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
13 The Life of Sunday (Ruby's Theme) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales
14 Fifteen - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
15 The Shepherd's Boy - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers
16 Doctor Who Theme (2023 version) - BBC National Orchestra of Wales & BBC Singers

 

I listened through the whole concert, it was wonderful. I love the new material - Fifteen’s theme is something special IMO. Very influenced by “I Am The Doctor” - relentlessly pulsing, energetic and fun - but with a dangerous edge to it. It’s fresh and it’s very very interesting, shades of a mad marching band about it. Can’t wait to hear it in action.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

I'll be listening to Radio 2, tonight... and in 5.1, no less.

I've already booked my seat in my lounge 

[Tallguy 3,401]

Oh dear...

 

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/doctor-who-why-bbcs-who-niverse-will-be-missing-an-unearthly-child/

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

Glad that I have the "The Beginning" box set, in that case.

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

Is there any word on when the 60th concert will be available to watch? I can't find anything other than just it'll be "at a later date", but I'd love to watch the orchestra in action.

 

Gosh this has ramped up my anticipation. I haven't felt this excited about new Who since the lead-up to Moffat/Smith's first season.

[Tallguy 3,401]

I saw the one Proms where they played Gallifrey and the audience applauded all over it. Philistines. (Matt Smith ad libbed with a kid in the audience and he just INHABITED his character. It was amazing.)

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

I hate when that happens. From what I could hear in the recording of the new concert there was zero audience noise throughout any of the performances (except for applause after each piece finished of course). I wonder if that means they didn't do the usual rolling out of monsters on stage, or didn't show any footage while the music played. If so that's great - the orchestra is the main event after all!

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

No-one else has any thoughts about the new themes for Ruby and Fifteen? I'm dying to talk about them both, they're wonderful!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r92n

 

1:32:28 is "The Life of Sunday", Ruby's theme. Romantic, lush and gorgeous, heavy on the piano and very Chopin-esque, which makes me wonder if Ruby has a background in or connection to classical music. Or perhaps it's just a beautiful nocturne that Gold thought fit her character.

1:41:14 is "Fifteen". I'm in love with this theme. I've been playing it on repeat for the past week. It's bonkers, over-the-top, heroic, a little bit silly, a little bit rockstar, and a lot of fun. Also the motif that dominates the second half is extremely memorable, and will give "I Am the Doctor" a run for its money in terms of recognisability - and actually it's rhythmically very similar to that theme but the melodic contour is reversed.

 

Also worth listening to Gold and RTD speak in the above link - very insightful and witty, though they're very coy about what to expect from the new episodes. Love RTD's line after the huge bombast of "Fifteen" - "as you can hear... we're coming back subtler than ever".

 

 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Fifteeen reminds me a bit of Thunderbirds. I can kind of hear the brass chords a minute or so in coming in during moments of heroism.

 

Although nothing from either of these is standing out to me as particularly hummable or as accessible as Gold's previous themes.

[TBO1711 32]

With it getting closer to the release of the Specials there is no news on the Series 10 soundtrack

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

There's speculation that the first special will air on 25th November, that being the closest Saturday night to the actual anniversary date of 23rd November. And then the second and third will air on the 2nd and 9th of December.  

[Dave 217]

10 hours ago, TBO1711 said:

With it getting closer to the release of the Specials there is no news on the Series 10 soundtrack

I guess both will be released simultaneously. And if we're really really really really lucky, we get both ones this year or early next year.

 

I hope Russel reminds Gold that he also still has to release: Years And Years, It's A Sin, Torchwood: Series 4, Gentleman Jack... the original synth music from DW Series 1, more music from Series 2-8. And A LOT MORE MUSIC FROM SERIES 9!!!

[TBO1711 32]

58 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

There's speculation that the first special will air on 25th November, that being the closest Saturday night to the actual anniversary date of 23rd November. And then the second and third will air on the 2nd and 9th of December.  

If The Star Beast is released on the 25th November, that would be great cause it would be a special Birthday gift for me, hopefully sometime in early November they release the release dates for the specials

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

37 minutes ago, Dave said:

I guess both will be released simultaneously. And if we're really really really really lucky, we get both ones this year or early next year.

 

I hope Russel reminds Gold that he also still has to release: Years And Years, It's A Sin, Torchwood: Series 4, Gentleman Jack... the original synth music from DW Series 1, more music from Series 2-8. And A LOT MORE MUSIC FROM SERIES 9!!!

I couldn't get through Years and Years, way too close to reality, but the music was great. Gentleman Jack would be good, although not sure if there was masses of music. What he does need to release is season one of The Musketeers, including the main titles. They've only put out music to the second and third (by Paul Englishby) which is actually very good indeed, but it would be great to hear MG's first season scores too.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

53 minutes ago, Dave said:

I hope Russel reminds Gold that he also still has to release: Years And Years, It's A Sin, Torchwood: Series 4, Gentleman Jack... the original synth music from DW Series 1, more music from Series 2-8. And A LOT MORE MUSIC FROM SERIES 9!!!

 

There's a leak of the synth score for 'The Girl in the Fireplace' and it didn't strike me as massively listenable. Much preferred the selection played at the 'Celebration' concert. Regarding Torchwood, Ben Foster was doing it by himself by series 3, so series 4 is almost certainly nothing to do with Gold.

 

When Gold does a 'specials' release (we know he will) it seems to me the most logical time to do a concurrent series 10 release. Maybe he'd even do some sort of 4-disc set and do both in one as a nice comeback release.

[Dave 217]

On 23/10/2023 at 1:10 PM, Richard Penna said:

There's a leak of the synth score for 'The Girl in the Fireplace' and it didn't strike me as massively listenable. Much preferred the selection played at the 'Celebration' concert.

The same leak (or other?.. I don't know) also includes some synth versions of S1 such as "Westminster Bridge", "A Lone Dalek" and some more. Great stuff imo. I obviously prefer the re-recorded orchestral versions (I also love the "The Girl In The Fireplace" concert version (there's also a second one)) but the original synth versions also have something unique and likeable about them.

 

On 23/10/2023 at 1:10 PM, Richard Penna said:

When Gold does a 'specials' release (we know he will) it seems to me the most logical time to do a concurrent series 10 release. Maybe he'd even do some sort of 4-disc set and do both in one as a nice comeback release.

I don't think that it will be one release. S10 plus surrounding specials need at least 3CDs. Maybe even 4. I hope Murray decides against the idea of giving the christmas specials their own disc for S10... I don't like the idea of having two half empty discs of "The Return Of Doctor Mysterio" and "Twice Upon A Time" while "World Enough And Time/The Doctor Falls" gets squeezed with 2 or three other episodes.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I forgot about the other specials; someone put up a rip of highlights from Doctor Mysterio and it was rather good. There wasn't a whole lot else from the end of Gold's era that I latched onto particularly.

[thestat 348]

The new Gold arrangement is awesome and so him! But he really needs to get Years and Years released - this climatic score is just fucking wonderful:

 

[TBO1711 32]

I hoping either this year or next year they announce filming of Series 16 with Ncuti

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

His second season has just begun filming - https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-second-season-newsupdate/. RTD has said that one of his conditions for returning was getting to do a season/series every year, so maybe after it's in the can they'll go straight into making the third? 

[TBO1711 32]

1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said:

His second season has just begun filming - https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-second-season-newsupdate/. RTD has said that one of his conditions for returning was getting to do a season/series every year, so maybe after it's in the can they'll go straight into making the third? 

But let's hope Ncuti returns for the third series plus any specials that come after

[TBO1711 32]

With all the footage we have seen of Ncuti, we haven't seen him in this outfit yet, and with the other promo image showing what he wearing in the xmas special i wonder when he will wear this outfit

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

What's that round his neck?

Conventional wisdom says that it's the TARDIS key, but I'm not so sure.

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

 

Not sure if this was already known?

 

Added: trailer!

 

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

So, no Crimbo special, then? Bummer.

[Tallguy 3,401]

You can't put the TRAILER in a EDIT!

 

This is the first with Disney branding, yeah?

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

5 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

You can't put the TRAILER in a EDIT!

 

 

This better?

 

1 hour ago, JNHFan2000 said:

 

Added: trailer!

 

 

 

[Tallguy 3,401]

Well, sure. We've made the thread pop up on people's subs a couple of times now.

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

So, no Crimbo special, then? Bummer.

 

There definitely is a Christmas special this year, and it'll be Ncuti's first episode. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

So, four specials between 25th November, and Christmas Day 

[Tallguy 3,401]

So, if you've never seen this new Doctor Who thing they're putting on Disney+ how are you going to feel about this lead actor going away after three episodes?

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Knowing Gen Z, they'll probably need therapy or something.


Anniversary episode posters - 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

So, if you've never seen this new Doctor Who thing they're putting on Disney+ how are you going to feel about this lead actor going away after three episodes?

 

Good point.

What about '96, when McCoy gets shot and turns into McGann, after 20 minutes? 

[Tallguy 3,401]

3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

Good point.

What about '96, when McCoy gets shot and turns into McGann, after 20 minutes? 

 

I thought of that a little: But McCoy didn't even do the narration. And all of the ads weren't "Come watch the new show with Sylvester McCoy!"

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Fine examples in those 3 posters of the 'Doctor hand thing', lol. 

[Marian Schedenig 8,207]

3 hours ago, Tallguy said:

I thought of that a little: But McCoy didn't even do the narration. And all of the ads weren't "Come watch the new show with Sylvester McCoy!"

 

But Tennant will get to be the Doctor (again) for longer with these three specials than McCoy and McGann combined in the film.

[Tallguy 3,401]

30 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

But Tennant will get to be the Doctor (again) for longer with these three specials than McCoy and McGann combined in the film.

 

That was my point. New viewers were not "promised" Sylvester McCoy. It was actually a bit of a surprise to see him. But new viewers are clearly being promised Tennant.

 

It's the RTD method: Introduce new viewers to the heartbreak and thrill of regeneration early.

[Marian Schedenig 8,207]

51 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

That was my point.

 

I meant to quote Fart in my post.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

Marian, if you meant to quote me, why didn't you quote me? 

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

12 hours ago, Tallguy said:

So, if you've never seen this new Doctor Who thing they're putting on Disney+ how are you going to feel about this lead actor going away after three episodes?

 

10 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Knowing Gen Z, they'll probably need therapy or something.

 

Nah Gen Z is the most pop-culture literate generation yet. Most of them would have some awareness of Doctor Who, and almost certainly David Tennant, even if they haven't actually watched it. It worked the same for us millennials - we were all well aware of the show (and particularly Tom Baker) even though it was off the air for the first half of our lives. But Gen Z were also raised in a Marvel world; being pop culture-savvy in this generation means familiarising yourself with a back-catalogue of stories and mythos over half a century old. They'll catch on straight away, and probably quicker than any of us did.

[TBO1711 32]

No 13th doctor gasp in trailer before 15th doctor opens his eyes