#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 They are dying.NeilLET THEM DIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Neil, do I have permission to go over to that Silvestri / Newton-Howard board (incognito of course) and execute Emergency Landing Plan....B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Kong'll be juuuuuust fine gentlemenTim, who doubts a change of score from one decent composer to another is that damaging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Besides, they're animals.They are dying.NeilLet them die.....Yesssss - first in with e ST retort to Neil's ST quote.....I impress myself somtimes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I was quoting Star Trek?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 4 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I was looking forward to Shore's take on Kong but I'm honestly not that hyped about the film itself. After the first trailer, it looks so-so. But then again, I'm not in awe of Peter Jackson's directorial abilities as it is (not that he's bad, I just find him a little overrated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I was looking forward to Shore's take on Kong but I'm honestly not that hyped about the film itself. After the first trailer, it looks so-so. But then again, I'm not in awe of Peter Jackson's directorial abilities as it is (not that he's bad, I just find him a little overrated).I'm more or less in the same boat. I love the original movie, and the trailer for this did nothing to impress me.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Besides, they're animals.They are dying.NeilLet them die.....Yesssss - first in with e ST retort to Neil's ST quote.....I impress myself somtimes.....Ah....Steef got in there before you like.......3 posts before you. Do I have permission to cross the Neutral Zone?Hitch, getting itchy chins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's official! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Who is this "J.N. Noward" person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I saw that on the other thread...I couldn't help myself, I am now registered and commenting on the other board!!!NOOOOOOO!!!! (Darth Vadar like cry)Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 BTW, it's not Newton-Howard. It's just Howard. Newton is a middle name, not a last name.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I'm just burnin' doin' the New-Ton danceNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Well at least they didn't get Brian Tyler or Hans Zimmer and his crew of 30 co-composers to re-score it. I am disappointed, I was looking forward to Shore's score to this film and I did have faith that Peter Jackson could do Kong justice with his version after the awful 76 remake.You can probably kiss a 70 min CD goodbye and settle on a 30 to 40 min version as well since it's going to recorded in LA now.Oh well that's Hollywood. ****spoiler alert*****I believe Shore was to appear in the film as well as the band leader when Kong is presented on stage and had composed a piece for that scene before recording the actual score. I wonder if PJ will have to reshoot that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's funny how there was only one major story that stemmed from Soundtrack.net, and now there's two pages of bullshit to accompany this thread.No other news or information has surfaced, but yet we find a way to ruin everything Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Probably not.Would it not be ironical for Shore to appear in a film while his music got kicked out?"Did she say there were monkey's?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 No other news or information has surfaced, but yet we find a way to ruin everything Kind of like Planet of the Apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 As I said on another forum - the official page still names Shore.....I ain't buyin' this until Jackson or Shore says so......not for a second..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I'm really waiting for the other shoe to fall...or someone to tell us the punchline of this cruel cruel joke.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I'm having too much fun on the other side. Please help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 You'll see the error in your ways.JWFan is like Vertigo to Howard Forum's Topaz...Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Horner should really have gotten this assignment since he already scored Project X and Mighty Joe Young.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 And then he could sign his own death warrent...Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif., Oct. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Universal Pictures confirmed today that James Newton Howard will compose the original score for the dramatic adventure "King Kong," which is directed by triple Academy Award® winner Peter Jackson. Mr. Howard replaces Howard Shore, who is leaving the project.Peter Jackson made the following statement: "I have greatly enjoyed my collaborations with Howard Shore, whose musical themes made immeasurable contributions to 'The Lord of the Rings' trilogy. During the last few weeks, Howard and I came to realize that we had differing creative aspirations for the score of 'King Kong.' Rather than waste time arguing with a friend and trying to unify our points of view, we decided amicably to let another composer score the film. I'm looking forward to working with James Newton Howard, a composer whose work I've long admired, and I thank Howard Shore, whose talent is surpassed only by his graciousness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 This is coming straight from the official KongisKing site. We can finally put this to rest.Tim, who knows that is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Yeah it's finally official, Neil can close this thead now.So what's going on with GOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Shore has replaced Doyle.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I respect both James Newton Howard and Howard Shore. However, James Newton Howard I know will get many other major motion pictures to score. I'm not so sure with Shore. I pray a talented composer like Shore doesn't simply fall into obscurity like Poledouris or Eidelman. Still the disengagment seemed like an honorable one unlike the somewhat mysterious release of Goldsmith from Timeline or the despicable release of Yared from Troy.I'm glad to hear that at least some of Shore's score was recorded though. I'm ready to hear both. Justin - Who would have prefered Shore's original style to JNH's (occasionally) generic one. (I'm comparing scores like LOTR to something like Atlantis and Outbreak. Not something like Signs or The Village.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 The official site (www.kingkongmovie.com) lists Shore as the composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Well, to give an example in terms of Williams...When Howard went to score Peter Pan, he kind of had lofty expectations to live up to because of what Williams did for Hook, and Howard didn't even come close. But that's not to say I don't like Howard on his own terms. I loved Signs, and The Village, and Snow Falling on Cedars. But when you are forced to compare him to someone like JW, he kinda falls short. If I'd never heard Hook, I would have a reworked opinion.Then again, comparing the two Kong scores would be wholey different because Williams isn't in the equation. I am also curious as to how they stack up to each other.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's likely we might never hear Shores Kong, so JHN will have to compare to John Barry and Max Steiner instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 *IT IS OFFICIAL NEWS*My boyfriend (Emile) is the one that runs the JNH and Silvestri sites, and this is definitely official news.JNH Studios contacted him with the news early today.BTW, Emile doesn't put ANY news item on his site without first having official confirmation from JNH's or Silvestri's representatives.Rest assured that anything announced on his sites is NOT pure speculation.As to why this development took place, there wasn't info as to why.Statement from Peter Jackson from the King Kong site:"UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif., Oct. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Universal Pictures confirmed today that James Newton Howard will compose the original score for the dramatic adventure "King Kong," which is directed by triple Academy Award® winner Peter Jackson. Mr. Howard replaces Howard Shore, who is leaving the project.Peter Jackson made the following statement: "I have greatly enjoyed my collaborations with Howard Shore, whose musical themes made immeasurable contributions to 'The Lord of the Rings' trilogy. During the last few weeks, Howard and I came to realize that we had differing creative aspirations for the score of 'King Kong.' Rather than waste time arguing with a friend and trying to unify our points of view, we decided amicably to let another composer score the film. I'm looking forward to working with James Newton Howard, a composer whose work I've long admired, and I thank Howard Shore, whose talent is surpassed only by his graciousness."So, yes, it is true. Great news for JNH, Jackson is a dynamic director. Though it does suck for Shore. Not really fair to him.I also think Howard Shore is a fine composer, LOTR is close to a masterpiece.We were taken by surprise, just like everyone. I thought the PJ/Shore collaboration was a tight as Spielberg/Williams. Something, obviously went wrong between them.But, the prospect of JNH on a film like this is exciting. I'm certainly curious about his interpretation. Fans of his have been waiting for another chance for his to do a huge Waterworld type of score, maybe this is it.I'm still mystified at what could have been such a big difference between Jackson and Shore that they couldn't work it out or rework the score, I mean it had already been substantially recorded? I guess that will only become clear later when it's all said and done and we've heard JNH's and Shore's score (which will no doubt leak someday). Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Years ago, when everyone (including myself) still doubted Shore was up the the LOTR task, it still would have been totally clear that a Kong remake screams for a Shore score.Marian - Legend (Jerry Goldsmith) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Sure, I've called Shore's LOTR scores rather bland at times, but they go and replace one partically bland composer with and even MORE bland composer? What's the world coming to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Yeah I can't say when I see JNH name attached to a project I get excited.Oh well sometimes a composer can come up with a pretty decent score in a short period: Goldsmith's AFO and Goldenthal's Interview With The Vampire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Oh well sometimes a composer can come up with a pretty decent score in a short period: Goldsmith's AFO and Goldenthal's Interview With The Vampire.Except James Newton Howard is not Jerry Goldsmith or Elliot Goldenthal.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Oh well sometimes a composer can come up with a pretty decent score in a short period: Goldsmith's AFO and Goldenthal's Interview With The Vampire.Except James Newton Howard is not Jerry Goldsmith or Elliot Goldenthal.NeilDamn right. Best sig ever, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Well, I'm now more excited about this score than I was before, but is not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Creative differences, eh? There's only so many tribal rhythms and instruments out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Just to be contrary, anybody else slightly wonder what a Silvestri King Kong might have been like? An intriguing idea...Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Just to be contrary, anybody else slightly wonder what a Silvestri King Kong might have been like? An intriguing idea...GretaThink Predator 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Except James Newton Howard is not Jerry Goldsmith or Elliot Goldenthal.NeilTry telling that to Dan Hobgood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Just to be contrary, anybody else slightly wonder what a Silvestri King Kong might have been like? An intriguing idea...GretaHow bout a John Williams Kong for that matter?I could go for another round of a Lost World type score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 4 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 I hear they have fired JN Howard and asked kaiju maestro Akira Ifukube to come out of retirement at 92 years of age to show these Hollywood upstarts how it's done. Seriously though, I also have a hard time believing JN HOward will have the time to craft a score up to the same level as Shore. And I think JN HOward is an exceptional composer. Scores like Wyatt Earp, Signs, Unbreakable, Falling Down, Snow Falling on Cedars, etc. all bear his compositional stamp. But I cannot see how he can really come up with something as original as the aforementioned in this short time. Doesn't seem possible, even for the best composer....P.s. I also would have loved to hear a Silvestri KONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Maybe Ifukube could pull out the old Farou Island chant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 James Newton Howard, as bland as Howard Shore?! Oh please. If I was as well-versed as Greta in these matters, I'd lay the smack down!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Would it not be ironical for Shore to appear in a film while his music got kicked out?Kinda like Richard Donner in a film he got fired from directing (even though half of it is still his).Just to be contrary, anybody else slightly wonder what a Silvestri King Kong might have been like?I was thinking the same thing. That could be quite awesome indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Well,this confirms it.Shore will go back to scoring Cronenberg films and light comedies and that's that.His Box Office phase is already over.K.M.Expecting Patrick Doyle's Box Office phase to be even shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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