Jay 42,495 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 No surprise at all that he publicly said he'd like Williams to score it.
Ollie 1,291 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 I know but it gives some people hope and calms the masses.
Maurizio 5,893 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/12/pix-video-from-star-trek-live-to-projection-concert-giacchino-say-williams-should-score-star-wars-vii/
KK 3,310 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 Him saying he'd like Williams to score in no way confirms Williams' involvement. If anything, it just makes it seem more like he's doing it.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,949 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 A Trek website should not have to suffer the humiliation of reporting Star Wars news! airmanjerm 1
Jim Ware 586 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 To quote MG before the pre-concert talk on Saturday- "I'm not answering any Star Wars questions today!"
Jay 42,495 Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 What do you guys think the odds are of Williams actually wanting to score this film? Obviously, it appears the job is his if he wants it. I'm sure JJ Abrams wouldn't mind, Giacchino has publicly said multiple times he doesn't mind, and I'm sure Disney would be on board with paying Williams fee. So the question is, I guess, does Williams have any interest in doing it? Are there any other films coming out in the summer of 2015 he'd rather score? Not that he's scored any non-Spielberg films since 2005....
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 If he's ever going to score another non-Spielberg film, this would be it.
Once 917 Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 Or Tintin 2. But I guess that's counts as a Spielberg production. I just hope to see him working with another director.
Datameister 2,443 Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 I could honestly see it going either way, even assuming all the other pieces fall into place (which of course isn't guaranteed). I'm still trying to keep my optimism at realistic levels. When the time comes, he may have scheduling conflicts or simple lack of interest - though what little he's said so far seems to make the latter less likely.Still, for as long as Star Wars films are made and Williams is alive, I'll hope he ends up scoring them.
Koray Savas 2,256 Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 It's weird to think the last non-Spielberg JW score was Star Wars. He needs to work with more directors.
Little Ghost 7,877 Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 It's weird to think the last non-Spielberg JW score was Star Wars. He needs to work with more directors.what about memoirs?
Jay 42,495 Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 The last non-Spielberg score was Memoirs of a Geisha.
Koray Savas 2,256 Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 I was making an idle remark of irony, don't read too much into. Just because it was released later doesn't necessarily mean he wrote the music later, even though I'm sure he did. Just sayin'
Muad'Dib 1,947 Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 I imagine that he wants to do it, but knowing him he'll probably want to see a rough cut first, and from that he'll probably decide if he'll do it or not.
Marian Schedenig 10,168 Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 What do you guys think the odds are of Williams actually wanting to score this film? Obviously, it appears the job is his if he wants it. I'm sure JJ Abrams wouldn't mind, Giacchino has publicly said multiple times he doesn't mind, and I'm sure Disney would be on board with paying Williams fee. So the question is, I guess, does Williams have any interest in doing it? Are there any other films coming out in the summer of 2015 he'd rather score? Not that he's scored any non-Spielberg films since 2005....Whether he actually is interested in it at all has always been the major question for me.
russds 8 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 What do you guys think the odds are of Williams actually wanting to score this film? Obviously, it appears the job is his if he wants it. I'm sure JJ Abrams wouldn't mind, Giacchino has publicly said multiple times he doesn't mind, and I'm sure Disney would be on board with paying Williams fee. So the question is, I guess, does Williams have any interest in doing it? Are there any other films coming out in the summer of 2015 he'd rather score? Not that he's scored any non-Spielberg films since 2005....I think I'm split right down the center 50/50. I can't imagine seeing a star wars movie with out that opening: "a long time ago..." BAM!!! ("Star Wars" title), and JW theme literally hits you, picks you up, and takes you to "a galaxy far far away". It's chilling, it's maybe one of the most classic, powerful movie openings of all time. Could it even be a Star Wars movie without that? On the other hand, I could totally appreciate a new look and feel, maybe a little darker, a little more modern: Star Wars with new polish and with a new coat of paint. However, I might enjoy a different score type for this, maybe Elfman, or Zimmer. If it's Giacchino, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because it would probably mostly sound like a JW imitation, and I could probably safely say, I would hate that - Star Wars with a JW imitation. I guess my hope is either one or the other: a Classic Star Wars, with an authentic JW score, or a Star Wars with modern polish on it, and a different type score. Anything else, and I'll probably be pretty disappointing.
Jay 42,495 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Oh, no matter who ends up scoring the film, I'm sure the JW main title will be retained, no question. At least for the numbered Episode movies
russds 8 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Oh, no matter who ends up scoring the film, I'm sure the JW main title will be retained, no question. At least for the numbered Episode moviesReally? So same opening sequence, with JW score but someone else (MG perhaps) scores the rest? I don't think i would like that, it should be either one way or the other, either traditional movie, authentic JW score, or do something new, fresh, with modern polish. It will be interesting to see, what actually happens. Little Ghost 1
Little Ghost 7,877 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 do something new, fresh, with modern polish. The did that already it sucked (though it was not exactly new, and it did reference Williams' themes)
russds 8 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 I was thinking more something like this although this also references JW score...i guess a JW score would work in either case.
Jay 42,495 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Oh, no matter who ends up scoring the film, I'm sure the JW main title will be retained, no question. At least for the numbered Episode moviesReally? So same opening sequence, with JW score but someone else (MG perhaps) scores the rest? I don't think i would like that, it should be either one way or the other, either traditional movie, authentic JW score, or do something new, fresh, with modern polish. It will be interesting to see, what actually happens. Yea, like Shadows of the Empire
tarasis 1 Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 I was thinking more something like this although this also references JW score...i guess a JW score would work in either case. Oh I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed that trailer (not played SW:TOR, my comp isn't up to it). I wish they'd employed this technique to make another SW animated movie, its very nicely done and just runs circles around the end of AOTC.JW's music was integrated well into the scene, but then I also liked McNeely's SOTE
josefsuma 10 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 "John Williams to Score Star Wars Episode 7"Said by J.J. Abrams at the premiere of the new Star Trek movie.
Jay 42,495 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Source?There is nothing on Google News about this. I think you've been lied to.
russds 8 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 There was a post on JW fan page on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Williams/135079323176814 I call BS though. No source, no details. cough, cough.
Jay 42,495 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 That Facebook page is just a fan-run thing. They were mis-informed. JJ Abrams has NOT said that Williams is scoring the film.
Maurizio 5,893 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Courtesy of Jon and Al Kaplan: Incanus and Ricard 2
BloodBoal 7,544 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Yeah, sure, laugh while you can. But when this will happen (because, trust me, it will happen), we'll see who will be laughing then!
Joni Wiljami 1,233 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Yeah but the main thing is, you will be happy.
Luke Skywalker 2,205 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 yeah, it's scary.I'm sure that some spin off movies will be scored by RCP.I hope the episodes are composed in a traditional way, at least in the near future...
Thor 9,308 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Sorry, I found that video stupid in every possible way. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a huge Zimmer fan and am personally offended (although there's obviously a little bit of that), but because I don't think it's particularly clever as satire either. It basically boils down to childish namecalling & sandbox rhetorics.
Incanus 5,858 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Oh it was funny because it was so true. Quintus 1
Thor 9,308 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Oh it was funny because it was so true. Probably wouldn't be so funny if someone had done the same with a Williams video, eh? i.e. basically boiling it down to a series of 'boom-tss'-es on the music side with some derogatory, scrolling remarks about the same ol' Holst and Wagner rip-offs. Stuff like that -- strawman rhetorics -- are SOOO easy to do, but also very childish and ultimately annoying -- whether you're a fan of the composer or not.By the way, here's a GOOD example on how to do a satire on the sound:
Maurizio 5,893 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 It was something made only for letting people have a laugh. Film score fans take things too much seriously. Ricard 1
Thor 9,308 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 It was something made only for letting people have a laugh. Film score fans take things too much seriously.No, if it's funny, it's funny. See SOUTH PARK clip above. But if there's no cleverness behind it -- like in the Kaplan video -- it just becomes childish and annoying. Big difference. It steps over the line from being funny and satirical to being offensive to Zimmer, Zimmer fans and everyone who appreciates well-directed and clever comedy.
Maurizio 5,893 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 I made a laugh and that's it. I don't think it asks for more than that. Ricard 1
Quintus 5,721 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 This just in for Thor: humour isn't restricted to YOUR personal perception of it. It basically boils down to childish namecalling & sandbox rhetorics.Yes, and it was was very funny for it! It was something made only for letting people have a laugh. Film score fans take things too much seriously. No, if it's funny, it's funny. See SOUTH PARK clip above. But if there's no cleverness behind it -- like in the Kaplan video -- it just becomes childish and annoying. Big difference. It steps over the line from being funny and satirical to being offensive to Zimmer, Zimmer fans and everyone who appreciates well-directed and clever comedy.Oh shut up! Ricard and Joni Wiljami 2
Incanus 5,858 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Oh it was funny because it was so true. You actually thought I was serious? Is this a sensitive subject for you? Could it be that the Kaplans don't hold Zimmer in as high regard as you do and that is why they created their video that expresses this with hyperbole?
Ollie 1,291 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 The Kaplans are hilarious and their videos make me laugh no matter how many times I watch them. This one is funny as well.
Incanus 5,858 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 The Kaplans are hilarious and their videos make me laugh no matter how many times I watch them.This one is funny as well.The movie musicals they have done are brilliant. Funny guys.
BloodBoal 7,544 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 By the way, here's a GOOD example on how to do a satire on the sound:I don't even get the joke in this video.Here is a REALLY GOOD example on how to do a satire on the sound (see at 1:53):
Thor 9,308 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Yeah, that's a good one too, Bloodboal.You actually thought I was serious? Is this a sensitive subject for you? Could it be that the Kaplans don't hold Zimmer in as high regard as you do and that is why they created their video that expresses this with hyperbole? I have no problem with the Kaplans disliking Zimmer and I would even be open for a satire if they had done it as cleverly as their other stuff. But this was just juvenile and offensive, IMO.
Jay 42,495 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Holy crap! If this article is quoting Abrams accurately, maybe that Facebook post was right after all!“Michael Giacchino is an incredible composer, who I was lucky enough to begin working with on Alias,” said Abrams. “He’s truly one of the most influential members of our crew, and I think this score, he really outdid himself. Again, for Star Wars, it’s very early days, but I believe that, going forward, John Williams will be doing that film, because he was there long before I was.”http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/04/30/star-wars-episode-vii-likely-to-be-scored-by-john-williams/Wow!!! Muad'Dib 1
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