Romão 2,274 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Doesn't mean they are pop music nor easy to sing. They can be in fact quite challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Maria is more for the singer, as it calls for more fluctuation of the voice than most of the other songs. America has more of a Hispanic feel, appropriately so. The Bernstein score is big band, jazzy, swingy, a whole bunch of things at the same time. All the songs are so different, the only umbrella the all belong under is the movie itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Quote Doesn't mean they are pop music nor easy to sing. They can be in fact quite challenging. So does the music of Burt Bacharach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It was Romao who brought that up, your term was 'classical trained voices' which many pop singer are. So eat your own words here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Okay all settle down. Regardless of the genre, isn't the music great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Only when sung by guys who never saw a scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: A WSS set in the current political climate with deportation and so on would definitely be interesting! And it could potentially give Spielberg another Oscar, which he likes so much. Spielberg is not an Oscar-bait director! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 That whole project just reeks 'respectable', Academy-voter-friendly out of every pore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Sure it is. Interesting argument. Star Wars is not classical music, it's disco! This cover realized independently of the original composer proves it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Star Wars is not classical music ... Correct! It's film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Alexcremers said: Correct! It's film music. I was tempted to change the adjective, predicting a response such as yours, but I decided to keep it to simplify the gag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Essentially it's the author's preferred text! Pretty sure Shakespeare hasn't offered an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Blocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: Blocked In the preferred text of a sporadic poster here... Ignored! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: In the preferred text of a sporadic poster here... Ignored! Didn't we agree that was lame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Nick1066 said: Didn't we agree that was lame! I do not go against the intent of the original, the Founder, if you will. I do not disobey the intent of the Founder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Tis the will of Landru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: Spielberg is not an Oscar-bait director! Have you already forgotten about The Post? The poor guy just wants as many golden men as JW has - is that too much to ask for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Have you already forgotten about The Post? Hasn't everyone? Holko, Jurassic Shark and Nick1Ø66 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Btween suicide and epic failure I choose epic failure. He would be more successful remaking Rent. Everybody's got aids, aids, aids, aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: The poor guy just wants as many golden men as JW has - is that too much to ask for? Funny. Why does he always ask JW to tag along? A true envious man would but ol' Johnny out of a job and then make the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Funny. Why does he always ask JW to tag along? A true envious man would but ol' Johnny out of a job and then make the movies. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 John Williams: The Spielberg Collaborations How one man's jealous pride sparked some of the greatest music of all time. Jurassic Shark and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: Hasn't everyone? no The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Btween suicide and epic failure I choose epic failure. He would be more successful remaking Rent. Everybody's got aids, aids, aids, aids. C'mon, everybody, we got quilting, to do. I pay a lot of money to see Spielberg do a live-action LEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Will it simply retain its old name? Perhaps a new suggestion West Side Story: A West Side Story Jurassic Shark and Once 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: no Really? I can't think of anyone who'd remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Remember what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I think we were talking about Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It's always Always, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Really? I can't think of anyone who'd remember it. I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: It's always Always, isn't it? 6 minutes ago, Richard said: Always Well, definitely sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Always, admit it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 This is my general position on it. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I concur. I've always wanted to see Spielberg tackling a musical. If there wasn't already a respectable film adaptation made, I think he couldn't have chose a better one than West Side Story. This is the only downside of the project. However, I don't think he wants to do a remake of the 1961 version. In my opinion, the 1961 Wise/Robbins version is still a fine movie, albeit dated in some parts and probably a tad too Hollywood-ized in several choices. My guess is that Spielberg will probably go for a grittier, much more natural approach, with the film shot almost entirely on location in NYC, with live singing whereas possibile and with true Latino actors/singers/dancers. It's likely also that Kushner's script will deal with the spirit of violence and rebellion in a much more direct way, without any dilutions. The violence between the gangs will be shown as it is, with blood and bruises. I am sincerely intrigued in how Spielberg will do it. I hope Williams will be involved in some capacity. I can't see anyone else doing respect to Bernstein's original score. My bet is that they will remain as faithful as possible to Bernstein's original Broadway orchestrations, without amping up or Hollywood-izing anything like in the 1961 version. However, the workload is huge and my guess is that there will be a large music team tackling all the aspects (from rehearsals with singers, to preparation of the guide track on set etc). Williams will probably work as Music Supervisor/Director, to guarantee things are done in the proper style and respectful to the Bernstein score. Perhaps he will do some arrangement/orchestration himself whereas necessary, but it's likely he will work with some trusted colleague like Bill Ross to assist him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, TownerFan said: However, I don't think he wants to do a remake of the 1961 version. It will be a new adaptation of the same source material. Like WOTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: What's wrong with the old one? Remaking Best Picture winners is now a thing?? You know, us oldies are bound to think in those terms, but I'm beginning to understand Spielberg's reasoning and motivations for wanting to try an update of this film and bring in new younger audiences to its extremely broad and relevant themes (and great songs). The fact is, younger moviegoers often do not have any desire to sit themselves down in front of old sixties musicals, even if their parents encourage it. So a new version could go down quite well, especially since La La Land has shown there's a demand out there for big Hollywood musicals. I may not have any interest in seeing this, but I'm just one 41 year old dude. And the original will still exist anyway, it's unlikely to be rendered obsolete by a new take. I dunno, there's just something a bit sad and redundant about grizzled movie buffs feigning outrage over a musical remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Also - it's not a remake of the movie - it's a second adaptation of the musical. To many people's thinking, West Side Story is a film that was made in 1961 - but in fact this is equivalent to considering The Magic Flute as a 2006 film directed by Kenneth Branagh. Therefore, much like Mozart's opera, Bernstein and Sondheim's piece is one which can be endlessly interpreted by stage directors and adapted by filmmakers, such as Robert Wise, or Steven Spielberg, or anyone else. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Exactly, it's a timeless story really. It's like Pocahontas constantly being reimagined, or Oliver Twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 But with annoying music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I never enjoyed musicals very much, especially not those weighing in on 'important' matters (showbiz extravaganzas are a much better outlet for this particular genre). So i will not watch this before it hits Netflix but i expect the best to come out of this maybe a string of cinematically brilliantly realized sequences. A great overall movie - zero chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Speak for yourself, I love the music. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Spielberg will have to « la-la land » it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, Quintus said: Speak for yourself, I love the music. No please, i spoke for you, like i i usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, publicist said: I never enjoyed musicals very much, especially not those weighing in on 'important' matters (showbiz extravaganzas are a much better outlet for this particular genre). So i will not watch this before it hits Netflix but i expect the best to come out of this maybe a string of cinematically brilliantly realized sequences. A great overall movie - zero chance. Try an experiment, Pub. Skip the songs (except "source" songs) for THE SOUND OF MUSIC. It works brilliantly, as a straight drama, and you get to see more the Baroness! Eleanor Parker - what a doll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 We have that, 'Die Trapp Familie' is a well-known german version from the 50's. I really can only watch 'My Fair Lady' or the Vincente Minnelli musicals these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, publicist said: No please, i spoke for you, like i i usually do. Was a reply to Bespin not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 WSS is light-years ahead of anything else written for the musical stage. To me, Bernstein is the greatest composer America ever produced, narrowly ahead of Gershwin and Copland, at least to my sensibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 So is it likely Williams would remain involved in this project, either by orchestrating parts of the score or even writing new transitional cues that weren't in the original musical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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