nightscape94 965 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 10 hours ago, crumbs said: If so, this was the correct decision! Han Solo isn't a comedy character, he's a sarcastic, charming rogue! At least before ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 10 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: It is an absolutely outstanding theme and one Williams' best but it's a heavily romantic theme. It can represent Han's relationship with Leia but it can't represent him alone and his exploits. It's much too romantic for that. Han's theme would be for lack of a better word a manlier theme. Representing Han with the Love theme would be like representing Indy with Marion's Theme. Something tells me Williams could make it work with variations. You're right, though, it's not a theme that exactly screams "scoundrel" or "fighting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Sounds like a real challenge to use only 1 or 2 notes. Oh, wait, Williams already did that in 1975! Don't they teach you arithmetic in Petit France? Jaws was 3 notes! 12 minutes ago, Will said: Something tells me Williams could make it work with variations. You're right, though, it's not a theme that exactly screams "scoundrel" or "fighting." You can make anything sound manly with a pair of tubas and a trombone. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: Don't they teach you arithmetic in Petit France? Jaws was 3 notes! Belgium is called Petite France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 The ignorant and bigotted American is insulting you, Alex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Shut up man from Kleine Germany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Trump-fan! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 You are mistaken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 No matter! You yanks are all alike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 At least we are unified, unlike you Europeans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 We are united in that we haven't all killed each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: At least we are unified, unlike you Europeans! Europe is united...just not with the UK. 45 minutes ago, Stefancos said: No matter! You yanks are all alike! ...always overdressing for the wrong occasions. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 On 2017-6-24 at 2:06 PM, Bilbo Skywalker said: That is why you fail I didn't fail to enjoy Rogue One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Is Ron Howard reshooting the entire film from scratch or is he just finishing the remainder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sally Spectra said: Is Ron Howard reshooting the entire film from scratch or is he just finishing the remainder? I don't think so. He's finishing principal photography, then he'll be in charge of reshoots, but the whole film isn't being reshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 What a mess. I have respect for Kennedy and Kasdan, but if they want to play it safe then we'll end up with the bubble-wrapped, 'approach at a distance of twelve feet only' Rogue One, where Edwards and Lucasfilm evidently had respect for the craft, but everything, all hints of emotion and surprise were contorted to make 'Star Wars: A Star Wars Story', with the same thing happening where the execs at Disney (and most likely Kennedy and Co.) were worried it would sully their vision of one-size-fits-all movie with Star Wars things in it. Now, if Lord and Miller were taking more creative liberties than agreed with in Kasdan's screenplay, then sure, they should've been asked to curb those improvisations. Although I get the impression that at this point Disney/Lucasfilm aren't going to take any risks and it's sad. I wonder how much of Lord and Miller's personality will remain in the film, if any at all. This point has been brought up a thousand times before, but needs asking again: Why hire these outgoing, stylistic directors if ultimately all that passion and creativity is squandered in favour of a flavourless exercise in pastiche? It's sad because when you hear or watch the BTS material with the writers, directors, cast and crew etc. you see a great deal of passion for the job their doing and (just like the prequels with George) it's all wasted. How much does one tolerate the genuine passion for filmmaking if it's more at the expense of a business that at the end doesn't showcase or utilize that talent? John and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, RPurton said: they should've been asked to curb those improvisations I was under the impression they were asked to cut the comic improv? The fact is that unless they are directed by Lucas, Star Wars movies have ALWAYS been producers films. Directors are there to bring the script to screen in a effective and satisfying way. They are not there to put their own creative stamp on Star Wars. Why do you think they hired Richard Marquand to helm ROTJ? Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Because Eye Of The Needle was awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I havent seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Neither have I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 All these promising young directors who grew up loving Star Wars and want to make their version of it are probably gonna see their efforts curtailed quite a bit. I mean not even JJ got final cut I think. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I think J.J. got out mostly unscathed. Each successive director either submits to the machine or perishes in hellfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 JJ was probably able to negotiate more influence in the final edit thanks to his status as a director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 minute ago, RPurton said: I think J.J. got out mostly unscathed. Because he doesn't have much of a personality! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Or because he understand how the Hollywood system works and knows now to navigate it? mstrox and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I was under the impression they were asked to cut the comic improv? The fact is that unless they are directed by Lucas, Star Wars movies have ALWAYS been producers films. Directors are there to bring the script to screen in a effective and satisfying way. They are not there to put their own creative stamp on Star Wars. Why do you think they hired Richard Marquand to helm ROTJ? Because David Lynch turned it down. Karol mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 But why settle on some random TV director? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Or because he understand how the Hollywood system works and knows now to navigate it? Same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sally Spectra said: But why settle on some random TV director? Because he will do the work in an efficient manner without complaining too much about creative input? Like Irving Kersher did apparently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Irwin Kerner complained a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 TESB was a fraught production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I've looked up the Silver Screen Edition of Empire on Original Trilogy forums. They're workin' on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: TESB was a fraught production. Way over budget and way over time. mostly Kurtz fault though and he got the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Because David Lynch turned it down. Karol So Lucas didn't want directors who would put a personal stamp on Star Wars and so he wanted to hire David Lynch?! Hmm, makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It is weird to how you go from Lynch to Marquand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Ahh, must have missed that part. What a shame, but there should be some revival of the project at some point. Right now I couldn't care less about a 4K version because that'd be like 80gb! Just enjoying this lovely 1080p version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-han-solo-movie-firing-new-details-behind-phil-lord-chris-miller-exit-1016619 New reports. The editor was fired too. Acting coach hired for lead Alden E after Kennedy and Kasdan were unsatisfied with his performance. Shooting initially was going to end in July but still now end two months later in September. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Editor replaced? Acting coach hired for the lead? What the hell is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,368 Posted June 26, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2017 Would that it were so simple... TheUlyssesian, ChrisAfonso, mstrox and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Also Kennedy tried to broker a power sharing agreement with Lord and Miller and writer Kasdan. She had successfully pulled off this coup on Rogue one allowing writer Tony Gilroy to ghost direct with Gareth Edwards without falling afoul of DGA rules. Edwards and Gilroy retained their director and writer credits and it worked out for everyone. But apparently Lord and Miller didn't want to share power with Kasdan so Kennedy fired them. I trust her judgement to be honest. She has made some very great films. And she does not needlessly interfere. Johnson had Abrahms had complete authority on their films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Would that it were so simple... Yes, the irony is almost too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 6 hours ago, crocodile said: Because David Lynch turned it down. Karol Also Lucas wanted a "non-union" director. BTW I wouldn't read too much into the acting coach thing, I'm sure they hired one because they thought his performance didn't fit Han Solo, or at least that's what I hope the reason was anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Now imagine if that acting coach is in fact Ralph Fiennes! All that's left is for Howard to be fired too and the Coen brothers to replace him. After Howard is fired, Kennedy might hire James Comey. Afterall he has been a director before and is currently available. John, Will, Simon McBride and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,317 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Quote "The next day, when the crew was told that Ron Howard would take over as director, sources say they broke into applause." Geez, that's an indictment on the state of morale on-set under the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2017 Rumor has it there was someone holding an "Applause" sign who raised it right after Kennedy made the announcement. Unlucky Bastard, Fancyarcher, John and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Or it's like when Stalin was giving a speech. The first one to stop applauding would be shot! John and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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