Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm wondering if he did tinkering for ALL of these tracks - you never know! It'll be great to have him revisit some of the stuff he wrote when he was crazily busy in the early 2000s like The Terminal and Minority Report! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I wager most of these are concert suites whether similar to those found JW'ss albums or the versions he specifically prepared for performances later, preferably the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The BFG is almost certainly the revised concert suite he premiered at Tanglewood/Hollywood Bowl after the movie's release and not the OST final track. Pieter Boelen and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I'm sure the sound quality will be superior. I think our old 1991 and 1995 CDs desperately needed a new fresh remasterized HD release. Are you kidding me? The 1995 release, in particular, is a bonafide HiFi release. Easily one I pop in to 'test' a stereo system! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Lets hope the tracklist isnt final. And that a revised list is eventually put up later. Hoping for The Lost Word Theme and Irina's Theme to be included as well. Disc 4 could be some documentary or a plain Interview cd. As I suspected earlier that Disc 1 & 2 could have been re-issue of the old Sony albums, Let's hope they are remastered and upgraded the volume a notch higher. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's listed on Amazon, coming out in less than 2 months, and completely finished recording. It's a final tracklist. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: So I thought I'd go through Spielberg and Williams' film collaborations (so, skipping over Amazing Stories) and list which pieces were elected to be recorded on these 3 volumes (and which film shave been completely ignored so far) You're missing A TIMELESS CALL from your list. If you count AN UNFINISHED JOURNEY, you should count that. It was my no. 1 wish for this release, but I realize it was a farfetched one. I would also have loved to hear him revisit A.I., THE LOST WORLD and WAR OF THE WORLDS, but you can't have everything, I guess. The track listing looks nice enough. I'm curious about how different they will sound from the original recordings. If it's anything like the rearrangements of HOOK on the 95 album, I'm excited. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, Thor said: Are you kidding me? The 1995 release, in particular, is a bonafide HiFi release. Easily one I pop in to 'test' a stereo system! It's mixed too quietly in my opinion. If I put almost any other CD in my system after listening to the '95 release, without turning down the volume first, I'm blasted across the room like Marty in Back to the Future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 37 minutes ago, Thor said: You're missing A TIMELESS CALL from your list. If you count AN UNFINISHED JOURNEY, you should count that. You're right! Fixed! 37 minutes ago, Thor said: If it's anything like the rearrangements of HOOK on the 95 album, I'm excited. Those arrangements are so spectacular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Jay said: 10. Marion's Theme from Raiders of the Lost Ark Finally!!! A JW recording ofMarion's Theme!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, rough cut said: Finally!!! A JW recording ofMarion's Theme!!! I want Irina's Theme!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Disc 4 is an interview DVD. thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Incanus said: Although I miss Irina's theme. I would have taken that over the Adventures of Mutt any day. I don't mind a new recording of "Mutt". This could be a semi-new arrangement... there's a bit in the Finale that's not in the stand-alone track... what is that passage BTW? Panflutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, rough cut said: I don't mind a new recording of "Mutt". This could be a semi-new arrangement... there's a bit in the Finale that's not in the stand-alone track... what is that passage BTW? Panflutes? No. No panflutes there. Just standard symphony orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I really wanted The Lost World and A.I. War of the Worlds is missing too. Other than that, looks good! I'm surprised they thought of revisiting Minority Report. What a wonderful surprise. A New Beginning is one of the very best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I really wonder what the second version of With Malice Toward None is and why did JW choose to include it twice on the album. Also the inclusion of the single movement of Immigration and Building from Unfinished Journey feels a bit odd to me. I know it is a Spielberg/Williams collaboration but to my mind there would have been a lot of priorities over one movement from a six movement work which JW has already re-recorded in its entirety. Will and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Incanus said: I really wonder what the second version of With Malice Toward None is and why did JW choose to include it twice on the album. I suggested a narrated version with the actual text wrote by Abraham Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Aren't there two versions on the OS as well? One piano, one orchestral probably. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 JW must be especially fond of that melody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm also very excited for the new version of Hymn to the Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I wonder what the ACTUAL name of this new compilation is? For now, all we can call it is "John Williams & Steven Spielberg: The Ultimate Collection", which is the name for the 4disc box with the other volumes. Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bespin said: I suggested a narrated version with the actual text wrote by Abraham Lincoln. Well that is one possibility certainly. 7 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Aren't there two versions on the OS as well? One piano, one orchestral probably. There are quite a few incarnations of the music for Lincoln in concert form. Maurizio suggested on the previous page the trumpet version written for Christopher Martin (the Chicago Symphony's principal trumpet) for the 4th of July celebrations. There is a longer string orchestra version which is the one Williams performed with the Boston Pops. And the piano one etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, Incanus said: Well that is one possibility certainly. Narrated by Daniel Day-Lewis... or by an ex-President... Who knows. I think it's more relevant for this kind of release, than a piano solo version, like on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Certainly more relevant and more likely. Could also be with a different soloist as JW is fond of doing such things like in Stepmom where there is the Days Between end credits suite with Christopher Parkening on guitar and one with John Ellis on oboe or the like in Munich where Thoughts of Home and Avner and Daphna are essentially the same piece but the first one has solo cello part and the latter solo oboe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bespin said: Narrated ... by an ex-President... Who knows. Dear God, when a horrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 He's not an ex-President quite yet but Obama would be perfect for something like that. As I recently learned, he's already performed the spoken word part of Copland's Lincoln Portrait before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I didn't want to name him, but I see we thought of the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: He's not an ex-President quite yet but Obama would be perfect for something like that. As I recently learned, he's already performed the spoken word part of Copland's Lincoln Portrait before. Again, what a horrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Disagree, it would be perfect. Will and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Trump would even be better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 His tweet... after this release... yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Well, Bill Clinton spoke the words during the first screening of AN UNFINISHED JOURNEY by the Washington memorial on New Year's in 99, so how about calling him back up for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 How about just hire Sam Waterston or Daniel Day-Lewis for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Anyway, I hope there's no narration. But then again, this is Sony Classical that did Angela's Ashes, so... Who knows? If there has to be narration, then the obvious choice would be DDL. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I don't think JW would want the same piece of music on the CD twice, once with narration and once without. It's more likely they are different arrangements, or Amazon messed up the track listing and there is no 16th track (or track 4 is actually something else, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If anything, we need more versions of "With Malice Towards None." It's one of his most gorgeous melodies. Utterly brilliant. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 A nice recorded version with a narration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2017 I don't think there actually will be narration, but it would be a good choice. Lincoln's 2nd inaugural address (the "with malice toward none" speech) is one of the great speeches and I find it incredibly inspirational and relevant today. Anyway, Obama would be perfect because, like Lincoln, he's a politician who came up through Illinois politics (both serving in different houses of the state legislature) and he already absolutely idolizes and has deeply studied the life of Lincoln. And also because, naturally, both are very important figures in the history of striving for equality for minorities in the USA. Will, crumbs and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jay said: It's more likely they are different arrangements... Probably this. One orchestral, one with piano or choir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bespin said: I hope it will be this cello and string orchestra arrangement on this new album. As I said before I love that version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Very disappointing... no AI and no Lost World and the fact that the new music isn't available as its own individual release. AI and LW are the two greatest Spielberg themes he's written since the release of the 2nd Spielberg collaboration CD. And why Marion's Theme? That was already covered in the Raider's March. Why not the Ark Theme instead? Or Penitent Man Will Pass from LC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Because in 2008 he wrote a new arrangement of Marion's Theme that is quite gorgeous. Everything on here seems to be pieces he's already played for audiences in concerts. I don't think he's ever written an Ark Theme arrangement before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, Incanus said: I really wonder what the second version of With Malice Toward None is and why did JW choose to include it twice on the album. Yes... TBH Lincoln is not of a favourite Johnny score for me... too much americana. I would have rather had a new recording of "The Adventure Continues" from Tintin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Or any of the action cues! Belly of the Steel Beast, The Jungle Chase, Mine Cart Chase, Indy's Very First Adventure etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, rough cut said: Yes... TBH Lincoln is not of a favourite Johnny score for me... too much americana. I would have rather had a new recording of "The Adventure Continues" from Tintin. That's "The Duel" Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, mrbellamy said: That's "The Duel" Which is on this album. mrbellamy and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, rough cut said: Yes... TBH Lincoln is not of a favourite Johnny score for me... too much americana. I would have rather had a new recording of "The Adventure Continues" from Tintin. That's what "The Duel" is. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Because in 2008 he wrote a new arrangement of Marion's Theme that is quite gorgeous. Has that been recorded before? Can we hear that somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Recorded in a studio? Not that I know of. There are plenty of audience recordings on youtube, of course . Have been for 9 years and counting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, Jay said: Recorded in a studio? Not that I know of. There are plenty of audience recordings on youtube, of course . Have been for 9 years and counting! Including this one from quite a familiar person...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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