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    MikeH got a reaction from Tiburon in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    We need a “Which Obi Wan thread is your favorite?” thread!
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    MikeH got a reaction from michael_grig in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    We need a “Which Obi Wan thread is your favorite?” thread!
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    MikeH reacted to crocodile in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    It must be a terribly frustrating for musicians to work in Hollywood these days. So many notes and points of reference, short deadlines and lack if any sort of structure. No wonder nothing seems to have any narrative spine or direction. It's a miracle anything works at all.
     
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    MikeH got a reaction from eitam in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    @eitam I’ve had that phrase stuck in my head all weekend and made the connection too. It’s great!
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    MikeH reacted to eitam in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    I'm particularly fond of the 3 notes build-up at the end of the theme (especially the string-heavy arrangement at 3:30 in the single). It's so simple and effective, both tragic and hopeful. It reminds me musically and spiritually of the last phrase of Rey's Theme, which in a way makes sense given that Obi-Wan and Rey are pretty much in the same situation when we meet them: alone in the desert, eating instant meal while watching the sun...
     
     
     
     
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    MikeH reacted to Disco Stu in OBI-WAN KENOBI (Disney+ series)   
    I really really really want Palpatine to show up in this series.
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    MikeH reacted to Bayesian in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    I love Obi-wan’s new theme. And while it took me several listens, I think I now understand why the suite is put together the way it is. The first half of the piece is the “accessible” part, with the haunting theme/melody in poignant horns and ending with a gorgeous “action-y” ostinato. But then it segues into the second half, which Is slower, broader, more elegiac, and requires more effort to follow and integrate into the larger whole.
     
    Some folks have mentioned the lack of a B-theme as a detriment, but I see now why this isn’t a problem. In fact, I think what JW has done with the A-theme is (as usual) considerably more sophisticated than what any other film composer today could hope to achieve under a similar ambit. During the Ep. III-to-Ep. IV interregnum, Obi-wan needs to go from “top-of-his-game Jedi knight devastated at his supposed failure towards Anakin” to “ascetic recluse despairing at the near-extermination of his kind and forlornly watching over a kid whose guardian wants nothing to do with the Jedi.” There’s nothing happy that happens to him here. It’s perfectly appropriate, then, that JW gives Obi-wan the melancholy theme he does. But it’s fucking genius that he gives that theme a workout that goes into a brief state of driven purpose (the ostinato, likely representing his soon-to-seen showdown with Vader) only to lapse back into an even deeper and more complicated melancholy tinged with the slightest shade of hope. After all, that’s where we pick up on old Ben in ‘77 SW.
     
    This new theme isn’t JW on the decline. This is him continuing to ride the peak of  his storytelling ability, undimmed in the least, with full and sensitive recall of the trajectory of a character he hadn’t had to think about since Bush was president. No B-theme was written because none was needed to convey what needed to be conveyed.
     
    Good lord, what are we music-lovers going to do when we finally lose this man?
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    MikeH reacted to King Mark in What are your thoughts on John Williams' new theme for Obi-Wan?   
    THIS
     
    You all realise he's freaking 90 right. We're all happy he's working on Indy 5 right now , but we could also visit this site tomorrow and find out he passed away.
     
    ObiWan is a perfectly good theme that has it's place in any SW theme compilation.
     
     
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    MikeH reacted to Disco Stu in Instruments you don't like hearing in Orchestral Scores.   
    Pretty baffling to me too.  There's no musical instrument whose timbre I find inherently annoying, not even bagpipes.
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    MikeH reacted to Jurassic Shark in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    What? Ed wrote a theme as well?
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    MikeH reacted to Drew in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    According to the credits, there are three additional music composers. And that might just be for one episode. Three additional music composers are enough to score six episodes of a show. The math doesn't add up. What did Holt actually work on?
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    MikeH reacted to dyemery in Hans Zimmer and Harold Faltermeyer‘s TOP GUN: MAVERICK (2022)   
    Would you mind transcribing the article here since I can't seem to load it up properly?
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    MikeH reacted to Tydirium in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    It just sounds like typical modern action scoring... It could literally fit in just about any other modern show; nothing about it screams "Star Wars" to my ears.
     
     
    That opening recap of the prequels is one of the worst parts of the show thus far. At first, the fan in me was excited to see all those clips again, but the score completely ruined it.
     
    It felt wrong (and cringey) seeing all those scenes that were originally scored with JW's music, now scored with this dime-a-dozen modern sound. I can't help but wonder, why couldn't they have given that bit to William Ross? He could have easily come up with something much better, maybe even sensibly weaving in themes from the films.
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    MikeH reacted to Not Mr. Big in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    Musical references to the prequels were few and far between in the Disney films so it's great that Holt is finally able to pay tribute to... Hans Zimmer.  
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    MikeH reacted to Tydirium in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    2 episodes in a 6-episode show (and it's a limited series, meaning there are no more seasons planned) is a third of the show. I don't see why we shouldn't judge what we've heard, because even if there end up being some decent moments in the course of the next four episodes, that still doesn't excuse what we got in these first two: 
     
    The show opens with a lengthy recap of the prequel films, and yet the music that accompanies those classic scenes sounds nothing like JW's Star Wars. Then (if I recall correctly), the very first actual scene of the show is an Order 66 action scene in the Jedi Temple (therefore, it is set during ROTS)... and yet the music sounds like typical modern action scoring, with cheesy rhythmic percussion and electronic elements—nothing like JW's Star Wars.
     
    There's really just no excuse for it. This isn't just some other show like Mando or Boba Fett; this is basically Episode 3.5. If any show should sound as close to the traditional JW sound as possible, it's this one. It's pretty depressing to think that Gordy Haab's upcoming Fallen Order 2 video game score is going to sound closer to John Williams' Star Wars (both in its composition, and the fact that it's with the London musicians just like the PT and OT), than the show that features the return of Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, Jimmy Smitts, etc.
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    MikeH reacted to Edmilson in Natalie Holt's OBI-WAN KENOBI (2022)   
    Just saw this video and geez, the music isn't good. It could've been written for almost any other modern thriller on TV these days.
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    MikeH reacted to artguy360 in Obi-Wan Theme debuts at Star Wars Celebration, conducted by John Williams   
    To me this theme is really a tone setting piece more than anything.
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    MikeH got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    For me, every score JW has written since WAR HORSE has been a victory lap. We lost Goldsmith at 75, Barry at 77, Horner at 61, it’s been a blessing that JW has been able to continue as long as he has. 
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    MikeH got a reaction from Bayesian in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    Similarly, I wonder if all of this was a result of JW coming in at the last minute saying, “I want to write a Kenobi theme” vs Lucasfilm coming to him saying, “Can you write us a Kenobi theme?”  
     
    And not to open a can of worms, but re: Holt’s interview where she said the director pushed her to go more modern and away from being “old-fashioned”, this “old-fashioned” piece by JW is obviously now the showpiece for the entire show. If you’re making a show that sits squarely between Episode III and Episode IV, why significantly change the musical direction? If you’re keeping continuity visually and storytelling-wise, why not keep the music in the same language?
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    MikeH reacted to Not Mr. Big in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    For making him write 200 minutes of music and then treating it like toilet paper in film
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    MikeH got a reaction from BrotherSound in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    For me, every score JW has written since WAR HORSE has been a victory lap. We lost Goldsmith at 75, Barry at 77, Horner at 61, it’s been a blessing that JW has been able to continue as long as he has. 
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    MikeH got a reaction from ThePenitentMan1 in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    For me, every score JW has written since WAR HORSE has been a victory lap. We lost Goldsmith at 75, Barry at 77, Horner at 61, it’s been a blessing that JW has been able to continue as long as he has. 
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    MikeH got a reaction from ThePenitentMan1 in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    Similarly, I wonder if all of this was a result of JW coming in at the last minute saying, “I want to write a Kenobi theme” vs Lucasfilm coming to him saying, “Can you write us a Kenobi theme?”  
     
    And not to open a can of worms, but re: Holt’s interview where she said the director pushed her to go more modern and away from being “old-fashioned”, this “old-fashioned” piece by JW is obviously now the showpiece for the entire show. If you’re making a show that sits squarely between Episode III and Episode IV, why significantly change the musical direction? If you’re keeping continuity visually and storytelling-wise, why not keep the music in the same language?
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    MikeH got a reaction from Falstaft in Obi-Wan Theme released as a single!   
    For me, every score JW has written since WAR HORSE has been a victory lap. We lost Goldsmith at 75, Barry at 77, Horner at 61, it’s been a blessing that JW has been able to continue as long as he has. 
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