The OFFICIAL Indy IV Score Thread

[Jacob 0]

I didn't make that up

After what you pulled...

Seriously. Joe is the boy who cried "Wolf!"

Ted

"Why, you slimy, double-crossing, no-good swindler! You've got a lot of guts coming here, after what you pulled."

No really. I thought Joe was serious about that. (Well, they say a sucker is born every minute. I think they all wound up on this forum.)

But damn, that is an exciting track list! As far as the listening experience goes, I don't mind starting off with the Raiders March. I don't mind listening to Star Wars - Main Title at the beginning of every SW album. I'm not going to mind listening to the Raiders March once again when I first pop in Skull. Sure, that's not how the movie will start. But as a stand alone listening experience I don't see any difference. I'll still be wetting my pants.

[davros72 1]

believe it or not there are places on the net you have to be coy about, places that you can't post links from, and places you have to be invited to, and uninvited from.

Well, duh.

If you're not gonna give us some proof of your evidence, never mind.

you should avoid deep subjects like that, and there is no evidence.

and come on Josh since when do most tracks end in zero? Almost never.

OK, has *anyone else* found this guy's track timings info on any of those "unmentionable" websites to back this up?

And seriously, what's with the insult? I asked for backup to your information so we could judge whether or not to believe it, and you refused to give it. What "deep subject" am I dealing with here? Sheesh!

Anyways... not too sure about that "must end in zero" statement, either. What's that all about?

[MissPadmé 17]

Anyways... not too sure about that "must end in zero" statement, either. What's that all about?

I think the track times are fake... whether Joe found them somewhere or not. Not one of them ends with an 0. Need I say more???

[Josh500 1,615]

Anyways... not too sure about that "must end in zero" statement, either. What's that all about?

Nineteen tracks. Not one ends in zero. So I assumed the track times must have been made up.

Not at all definite proof for or against anything, of course...

Sheesh, people, chill out! And Joe, plaese post the link so we don't go apegarbage here!

[Jacob 0]

There's a lot of private communities out there who forbid their members from giving out publicly the link to their site/forum.

[tpigeon 3]

More interestingly, there are a lot of public communities who members refuse to publicly identify themselves as members. That's besides the point though.

Ted

[King Mark 3,631]

Hmmmmmm... I don't see why you can't post the link.

Unless the track times were posted on a S&M fetish porn site...

I suppose it's some movie nerd site that comes up with a few insider tidbits . I don;t see the point in keeping it secret either.

[Josh500 1,615]

I can't believe we are discussing THIS, instead of the track names themselves...

[MissPadmé 17]

I can't believe we are discussing THIS, instead of the track names themselves...

Hm just what I thought that moment... but then, what do you want to discuss anyway? These are just names.. anything we could discuss is the plot spoilers we've got through this list.. well not to heavy spoilers

[Josh500 1,615]

Hmmmm, we could discuss, for example, where Akator might be!

Anyone look it up on Wikipedia? I couldn't find an entry...

[MissPadmé 17]

Hmmmm, we could discuss, for example, where Akator might be!

Anyone look it up on Wikipedia? I couldn't find an entry...

well i can tell you where Orellana is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orellana

And Akator I think is a made up Title... because there is a

The Temple of Akator

[Josh500 1,615]

Fascinating....

[MissPadmé 17]

Fascinating....

Isn't it?

[JoeinAR 1,949]

believe it or not there are places on the net you have to be coy about, places that you can't post links from, and places you have to be invited to, and uninvited from.

Well, duh.

If you're not gonna give us some proof of your evidence, never mind.

you should avoid deep subjects like that, and there is no evidence.

and come on Josh since when do most tracks end in zero? Almost never.

OK, has *anyone else* found this guy's track timings info on any of those "unmentionable" websites to back this up?

And seriously, what's with the insult? I asked for backup to your information so we could judge whether or not to believe it, and you refused to give it. What "deep subject" am I dealing with here? Sheesh!

Anyways... not too sure about that "must end in zero" statement, either. What's that all about?

You said well, which is a deep subject. its a joke,

and the must end in zero, look at your JW cd's and you'll find few tracks that end perfectly on zero.

oh and MissPadma, remember this, all of the previous films had elements of real truth in their mythology, so some of this might well be based on something real.

[davros72 1]

8. The Journey to Akator

Couldn't really find anything on Akator, either.

11. Orellana's Cradle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Orellana

http://www.casadeorellana.com/en/index.htm :"Trujillo, "Cradle of Conquistadors". Birthplace of the conqueror of Peru, Francisco Pizarro, and of Francisco de Orellana, discoverer of the Amazon River."

[Josh500 1,615]

8. The Journey to Akator

Couldn't really find anything on Akator, either.

11. Orellana's Cradle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Orellana

http://www.casadeorellana.com/en/index.htm :"Trujillo, "Cradle of Conquistadors". Birthplace of the conqueror of Peru, Francisco Pizarro, and of Francisco de Orellana, discoverer of the Amazon River."

I wonder whether they show Indy traveling in a plane somewhere superimposed over an "Indy world map"...

[MissPadmé 17]

oh and MissPadma, remember this, all of the previous films had elements of real truth in their mythology, so some of this might well be based on something real.

hm yes I know but does for example Pankot exist? I mean as real geographical location in India?

[Delorean90 42]

There will certainly be (a) map sequence(s) in the film. I just hope they don't try to update it too much. The map sequences for the original three were pretty consistent, and I'm hopeful they'll pretty much stick to that look. However, the change of the look of it would be far less disastrous than the total lack of them, if it came down to it.

I don't think there will be much major that we can infer from the titles--which is good. The last thing we need is a track title like "Indy's Noble End."

[Romão 2,274]

There's no thing called Akator, but there's an old myth of subterranean city called Akakor in the Peru region.

[oierem 152]

If the track times are correct, the finale does contain the end credits suite.

Btw, does anybody know if this movie will begin with a prologue sequence, as the previous three did?? Isn't Indy supposed to be retired??

[Trent B 337]

Ahh fanboyism at it's best.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

If the track times are correct, the finale does contain the end credits suite.

Btw, does anybody know if this movie will begin with a prologue sequence, as the previous three did?? Isn't Indy supposed to be retired??

I said before they are probably fake! Now I know they are, I'm not the only one with a sense of humor who enjoys toying with fanboys.

I happily borrowed this. It might end up being that the times are not terribly off, as it turns out the fake track list from the other day is very similar to the real one.

[redfoxden 0]

This looks fantastic! I am so psyched for this!

[Romão 2,274]

http://www.originsproject.com/anomalousskulls.html

and the title of the page is Akakor

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I said before they are probably fake! Now I know they are, I'm not the only one with a sense of humor who enjoys toying with fanboys.

I happily borrowed this. It might end up being that the times are not terribly off, as it turns out the fake track list from the other day is very similar to the real one.

I agree, these cannot possible be real.

[davros72 1]

Hmmmm... On the one hand, "akakor" gets way more hits in Google (with skulls and everything!) than "akator"... which leads me to believe Amazon has it as a misprint and it should be Journey to Akakor.

On the other hand, a lot of the Google hits for "akator" are for the Indiana Jones "Lost Temple of Akator" playset from Hasbro. So now what are we supposed to believe?

More from the "SPOILERS" message board at TheRaider.net:

Beware, spoilers ahead... you've been warned...

http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=12127

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

If those tracktitles are genuine, i'll eat my own hair!

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

11. Orellana's Cradle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Orellana

http://www.casadeorellana.com/en/index.htm :"Trujillo, "Cradle of Conquistadors". Birthplace of the conqueror of Peru, Francisco Pizarro, and of Francisco de Orellana, discoverer of the Amazon River."

Could that mean... that spain is featured as a location?

But they did not shoot anything here...or at least nobody noticed.

Akator is the name of the temple, i thought everyone knew that

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

They probably shot during siesta, or they wore moustages as a disguise.

[Pieter Boelen 740]

WARNING: This post contains spoilers. DON'T read them if you don't want to be spoiled. They are not confirmed to be true, but they are gaining in credibility.

At least for these track titles there's an actual source. They're right there on Amazon.com. Now of course they might be mistaken or playing a late April 1st joke, but it's not like last time when there was no official source at all. I don't like how the track "Departure" suggests

there might be a big spaceship departing

. That's what I read in a claimed film plot summary which sounds pretty good, apart from the end, which involves

the temple flying off as a spaceship, Indy's hat being blown off his head and Mutt collecting it from the ground and a marriage

. Personally I think neither of this sounds very good.

[Romão 2,274]

The temple is called Akator in the movie, that much is clear. Now the influence for it clearly seems to be the Akakor myth.

[King Mark 3,631]

At least for these track titles there's an actual source. They're right there on Amazon.com. Now of course they might be mistaken or playing a late April 1st joke, but it's not like last time when there was no official source at all.

Ricard posted it on the main page this time

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Akator said backwords sounds just like what the aliens in Mars Attack said

[Ollie 1,059]

I think this is the most fun I've had on this board in a long time. I don't remember the months leading up to the last 2 Star Wars films being this silly.

[Henry B 50]

That's because we all either knew those films were going to suck ass or had read the easily accessible spoilers and already knew their plots.

[Red 75]

Glad to finally see this. My excitement and anticipation has definitely grown.

I'm assuming the ants mentioned in track 16 are the next step in the snakes/bugs/rats tradition. They're probably poisonous ants or something, otherwise I can't see them striking fear like the other creepy-crawlies did.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

4 pages in few hours? That has to be a record.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

WARNING: This post contains spoilers. DON'T read them if you don't want to be spoiled. They are not confirmed to be true, but they are gaining in credibility.

At least for these track titles there's an actual source. They're right there on Amazon.com. Now of course they might be mistaken or playing a late April 1st joke, but it's not like last time when there was no official source at all. I don't like how the track "Departure" suggests

there might be a big spaceship departing

. That's what I read in a claimed film plot summary which sounds pretty good, apart from the end, which involves

the temple flying off as a spaceship, Indy's hat being blown off his head and Mutt collecting it from the ground and a marriage

. Personally I think neither of this sounds very good.

I suggested the 'Departure' thing few posts early or in another thread.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Glad to finally see this. My excitement and anticipation has definitely grown.

I'm assuming the ants mentioned in track 16 are the next step in the snakes/bugs/rats tradition. They're probably poisonous ants or something, otherwise I can't see them striking fear like the other creepy-crawlies did.

they will likely be army ants. able to strip a human in minutes.

[Jacob 0]

Ant strippers, huh?

[Melange 446]

hm yes I know but does for example Pankot exist? I mean as real geographical location in India?

No. But there are plenty of palaces and forts that resemble it all over the country. There are several famous Rajput forts like Jodphur and Jaisalmer, but some of the most eery ones are ones that are the semi abandoned maharaja palaces dotted around the country, often up on hill tops with monkeys on the way up there. Sometimes the surrounding trees have encroached on the building, and the occasional bat (although, not screaming ones) is not out of the question

I've actually spent some time in a region of India where the Thugee cult was a huge problem in its day. Unlike the movie, they weren't elaborate with skulls, fiery pits, child slaves, and other things like that. They would usually pounce on lone people out on the paths at night and strangle them with a red scarf. But I can assure, this will never happen again.....in my kingdom

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Ant strippers, huh?

I'd take those rather than Zombie Strippers

Here's the cover art for easy viewing:

[JoeinAR 1,949]

such ignorance, so people here need to see the Heston film the Naked Jungle.

[indy4 155]

Apparently it is. I must say that I wouldn't mind a well-constructed medley of the Raiders March, new KotCS themes, Marion's Theme, Parade of the Slave Children, Short Round's Theme, Willie's Theme, the Grail Theme and Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra.

Deep breaths!

Though I'd add the Nazi theme from LC.

[Henry B 50]

It's in the Scherzo. That's enough.

[John Crichton 4]

4 pages in few hours? That has to be a record.

No kidding. I guess we can thank Joe for that.

This is great. As has been mentioned, there's the strong possibility of three new themes here (Crystal Skull, Mutt, and Irina- I assume that Cate Blanchett's character), and possibly more. I'd be surprised if all three turned out to be concert pieces, but it's possible.

John- already wondering how much is going to have to be edited to get it in film order

[Jacob 0]

such ignorance, so people here need to see the Heston film the Naked Jungle.

I have actually seen the Naked Jungle and am aware of ants destructive capabilities given sufficient numbers. Should make for a thrilling sequence in the movie. Millions of the little buggers swarming some hapless lackey who fell in their path.

[Red 75]

Irina- I assume that Cate Blanchett's character)

Yes, Irina Spalko.

[Ollie 1,059]

such ignorance, so people here need to see the Heston film the Naked Jungle.

A pretty good film. It's been years since I've seen it.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

such ignorance, so people here need to see the Heston film the Naked Jungle.

I have actually seen the Naked Jungle and am aware of ants destructive capabilities given sufficient numbers. Should make for a thrilling sequence in the movie. Millions of the little buggers swarming some hapless lackey who fell in their path.

That'll just be like the scarabs in The Mummy.