TownerFan 4,983 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 After hearing the new gorgeous arrangement of "Marion's Theme" that Williams debuted in Tanglewood last week, I found myself thinking that it's really time for JW to record another compilation album à là The Spielberg/Williams Collaboration. Here's a list of pieces I strongly hope Williams will record soon:. "Marion's Theme" (new concert arrangement) from Raiders. "Escapades for Alto Sax and Orchestra" from Catch Me If You Can. "Dry Your Tears, Afrika" (concert version) from Amistad. "Irina's Theme" (expanded concert arrangement) from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. "Escape from the City" and "Epilogue" (expanded concert arrangements) from War of the Worlds. Theme From The Lost World (the concert version has a very cool, brassy intro). "Hymn to the Fallen" from Saving Private Ryan (I think he could record an even better performance than the one on the OST, especially the chorus)These would be a great treat on an eventual Spielberg/Williams Vol.3. Then there are the pieces from other films:. "A Bridge to the Past" and "The Knight Bus" (concert arrangements) from Prisoner of Azkaban. Full "Harry Potter's Children Suite" (didn't he record it during the Sorcerer's Stone sessions?). Full Suite from JFK (Theme, The Motorcade, Arlington). Theme from The Patriot (concert arrangement). Theme from The Accidental Tourist (concert arrangement -- he played it in Chicago last November and it was amazing)And then I sincerely hope he will record soon the Horn Concerto.Did I miss something else worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I seriously doubt Williams will ever do another album of that sort. I'd buy it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 "Han Solo and the Princess," of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Studio quality c.d. recordings of:1-No existing bootlegs:Celebration Fanfare Fanfare for 10 year oldFanfare for Michael DukakisFanfare for Prince Philip2-Following entries are entitled "JW Various Recordings Crappy Sound" in my itunes library:SoundingsWere Lookin GoodVariations on Happy BirthdayHorn ConcertoNBC "rodeo" ThemeNBC Scherzo for TodayNBC Fugue for the Changing TimesThe Lost World Theme with 1998 Tokyo performance opening.Duel of the Fates instrumentalE.T. Botanicus (Universal E.T. ride)Satellite Celebration (with choir)Double Trouble (expanded concert arrangement with no choir)3- The sound of these 2 is pretty good from the CSO Internet broadcastTributes Fanfare for a Festive Occasion4-And ,as pointed out:Marions theme Concert VersionIrenas theme expanded concert versionHPSS Children's SuiteA Bridge to the Past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 "Dry Your Tears, Afrika" (concert version) from AmistadDoes that differ from the CD? If so, how?Here are a few more pieces that come to mind:Williams also recorded some pieces from Angela's Ashes with Yo-yo Ma that have yet to be released.There is the Geisha suite, but that's being recorded for a CD shortly.The concert version of The Flag Parade has never been released, as with Duel of the Fates without the chorus.One thing I'd like to hear is a cello version of Monica's Theme from AI. There's a few bars on the CD of a cello playing that theme and it sounds sublime.Which reminds me, I'd love Williams to do a Yoyo-Ma plays Williams like the Ennio Morricone CD on which Morricone made new arrangements of all the pieces.The Far & Away suite he performs is also a little different with the Chieftans replaced. I think that change in instrumentation is the only change, apart from merging the first track on the CD with the End Credits.I'd also like to hear the expanded "Something Wicked This Way Comes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would still like to hear the version of "Call Of The Champions" he recorded with the LSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would still like to hear the version of "Call Of The Champions" he recorded with the LSOme too,the c.d version is really badly recorded .the trumpets and choir sound like they're in another room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 "Dry Your Tears, Afrika" (concert version) from AmistadDoes that differ from the CD? If so, how?There's a different opening and a more bombastic closure. It's not that different from the actual OST version, but it would be nice to have it.And yes, I'd too totally love an album like Yo-Yo Ma Plays Morricone with new specially arranged pieces from various scores. Let's hope the upcoming Geisha suite recording Williams and Ma will record in Chicago in the next weeks will include also something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesyboy 3 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 "The Patriot" concert arrangement would be quite nice.Jamesyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The Final Duel/The Emperors Death would make a perfect concert piece. Williams has never touched the Emperor's theme outside of the OSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacius 7 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 . "Irina's Theme" (expanded concert arrangement) from Kingdom of the Crystal SkullWot??? I would love to hear that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would like to see Williams revisit some of his older works, perhaps a disaster suite from The Posieden Adventure, Earthquake and Towering Inferno.Or do a TV suite like Goldsmith did for the shows he scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Studio quality c.d. recordings of:1-No existing bootlegs:Celebration Fanfare Fanfare for 10 year oldFanfare for Michael DukakisFanfare for Prince Philip2-Following entries are entitled "JW Various Recordings Crappy Sound" in my itunes library:SoundingsWere Lookin GoodVariations on Happy BirthdayHorn ConcertoNBC "rodeo" ThemeNBC Scherzo for TodayNBC Fugue for the Changing TimesThe Lost World Theme with 1998 Tokyo performance opening.Duel of the Fates instrumentalE.T. Botanicus (Universal E.T. ride)Satellite Celebration (with choir)Double Trouble (expanded concert arrangement with no choir)3- The sound of these 2 is pretty good from the CSO Internet broadcastTributes Fanfare for a Festive Occasion4-And ,as pointed out:Marions theme Concert VersionIrenas theme expanded concert versionHPSS Children's SuiteA Bridge to the Past.Yes yes yes yes yes. I'd pay good money for that CD. They could include the Monday Night Football Theme for good measure. It isn't all that great, but would make a fun intro to the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 After hearing the new gorgeous arrangement of "Marion's Theme" that Williams debuted in Tanglewood last week, I found myself thinking that it's really time for JW to record another compilation album à là The Spielberg/Williams Collaboration. Here's a list of pieces I strongly hope Williams will record soon:. "Marion's Theme" (new concert arrangement) from Raiders. "Escapades for Alto Sax and Orchestra" from Catch Me If You Can. "Dry Your Tears, Afrika" (concert version) from Amistad. "Irina's Theme" (expanded concert arrangement) from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. "Escape from the City" and "Epilogue" (expanded concert arrangements) from War of the Worlds. Theme From The Lost World (the concert version has a very cool, brassy intro). "Hymn to the Fallen" from Saving Private Ryan (I think he could record an even better performance than the one on the OST, especially the chorus)Did I miss something else worth?I'd like him to include "Abandoned in the Woods" and "Monica's Theme" from A.I., "Minority Report" from Minority Report, "Thoughts of Home" from Munich, and the concert version of "Sayuri's Theme," as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would still like to hear the version of "Call Of The Champions" he recorded with the LSOhm just confused...Has this ever been officially anounced? The only reason why I think people would believe that is because in some internet movie fle you briefly saw some LSO Abbey Road Studios Footage together with Call of the Champions (I remember it well) but it was just a snippet and covered with dialogue.. it could have easily been just random video footage combined with random audo footage... So how do you think that he actually did a re-recording with the LSO? For what purpose.. to have a "definetive version" in his private library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 It mentioned that Williams was recording a version with the LSO, and it may have even said for a future release or album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 My guess is when he heard his first recording he wasn't happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 You mean perhaps he improved the choral writing as well? Or do a TV suite like Goldsmith did for the shows he scored.For the record, from what I know, Goldsmith didn't arrange those suites himself (I forget who did though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The concert version of The Flag Parade has never been releasedActually, Erich Kunzel recorded it with the Cincinnati Pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Or do a TV suite like Goldsmith did for the shows he scored.For the record, from what I know, Goldsmith didn't arrange those suites himself (I forget who did though).'Twas Morton Stevens (of Hawaii 50 fame), methinks.Good call from Mark O. about the disaster movies. I would love to have a good quality re-recording of The Poseidon Adventure; so much of the underscore is quite subtle and impressionistic but the poor quality mono recording of the original soundtrack fails to do it justice (although I have no doubt that Film Score Monthly did the best they could from the available sources). Someone should also re-record the score for The Plainsman with a large orchestra and chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The Final Duel/The Emperors Death would make a perfect concert piece. Williams has never touched the Emperor's theme outside of the OSTs.The Darkside Beckons can never be succesfully re-recorded.I know KM agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 The Nazi Theme from LC needs a concert version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 I would still like to hear the version of "Call Of The Champions" he recorded with the LSOhm just confused...Has this ever been officially anounced? The only reason why I think people would believe that is because in some internet movie fle you briefly saw some LSO Abbey Road Studios Footage together with Call of the Champions (I remember it well) but it was just a snippet and covered with dialogue.. it could have easily been just random video footage combined with random audo footage... So how do you think that he actually did a re-recording with the LSO? For what purpose.. to have a "definetive version" in his private library?If I remember well, it was reported on an online article on BBC news or some other UK news website. Williams recorded "Call of the Champions" with the LSO and the London Voices just a few days before the Sorcerer's Stone sessions.Speaking about yet unreleased Williams' fanfares and themes, I hope he or someone else will record "Esplanade Overture". It's probably my single favourite Williams piece ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Wasn't "Esplanade Overture" incorporated into Monsignor? I've heard a recording of it, too, but I have no idea where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Wasn't "Esplanade Overture" incorporated into Monsignor? I've heard a recording of it, too, but I have no idea where...yes it was but there are 30 secs missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The Final Duel/The Emperors Death would make a perfect concert piece. Williams has never touched the Emperor's theme outside of the OSTs.The Darkside Beckons can never be succesfully re-recorded.I know KM agrees with me.I agree ,the mix of the chorus and orchestra or tempo would probably be offBut I am dying to hear a really re-mastered original recordingand I purposely omited Esplanade Overture .The Monsignor cue is almost identicalIf I remember well, it was reported on an online article on BBC news or some other UK news website. Williams recorded "Call of the Champions" with the LSO and the London Voices just a few days before the Sorcerer's Stone sessions.it was AotCI forgot a last one,an Escape from Naboo like cue for the Athens Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The Darkside Beckons can never be succesfully re-recorded.I know KM agrees with me.I agree ,the mix of the chorus and orchestra or tempo would probably be off"Off" is a relative term. It would probably sound different than the original recording. It *should* sound different. It just *might* be better. More likely, it will just be *different*. And different can be good, there's no reason why a different take on this cue must automatically be bad.Beethoven's symphonies are still constantly being performed and "re-recorded" (a term I increasingly dislike) these days, and every once in a while, one of the new versions is substantially worthwhile. The Rolling Stones are still playing their songs from the 60s at concerts today, and while the general consensus is that they were at their peak in the 60s, the current live version of those songs often beat the original album recordings (when they're in good form - which apparently is somewhat of a gamble these days).It would certainly be difficult. Unless Williams himself does it, it probably wouldn't have enough prestige to warrant the necessary amount of budget and rehearsal time. But I say it's a chance worth taking. If it turns out to be simply bad, we can simply ignore it. If it turns out to be good, it'd be a great addition to the available Williams recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesyboy 3 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The concert version of The Flag Parade has never been releasedActually, Erich Kunzel recorded it with the Cincinnati Pops.As well as the recording by Frederic Talgorn and the Royal Scottish National Orchestra, which is awesome (along with Duel of the Fates, which is also awesome).Jamesyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The Final Duel/The Emperors Death would make a perfect concert piece. Williams has never touched the Emperor's theme outside of the OSTs.The Darkside Beckons can never be succesfully re-recorded.I know KM agrees with me.I agree ,the mix of the chorus and orchestra or tempo would probably be offBut I am dying to hear a really re-mastered original recordingThen pull out your Anthology set. The sound quality's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 The concert version of The Flag Parade has never been releasedActually, Erich Kunzel recorded it with the Cincinnati Pops.As well as the recording by Frederic Talgorn and the Royal Scottish National Orchestra, which is awesome (along with Duel of the Fates, which is also awesome).JamesyboyOh yeah I meant a Williams recording.I love those, but there's just something special about Williams doing it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Williams should record some of those unreleased selections when he conducts Memoirs with the Chicago Symphony. The rest he could do with the New York Philharmonic. I love the sound of their brass.On another note, does anyone know if this CD is any good?John Williams Greatest HitsThe back says "The Film Studio Orchestra". Is is one of those third-rate ensembles / synth? It is a well-known record label... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 John Williams Greatest HitsThe back says "The Film Studio Orchestra". Is is one of those third-rate ensembles / synth? It is a well-known record label...I have that back in Australia but probably haven't listened to it in ten years.I don't recall it being that bad. I think Born on the 4th sounded pretty good.I think at the time it was released it had one of the few, or only recordings of Poseidon, which was what attracted me to the CD..maybe.At a little more than a dollar, I don't think you'd regret it.If it was $10 or more, I'd say nah.My memory is a little vague though...it certainly wasn't something I listened to much.There's certainly worse around though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I'd go for just for a new BOTFJ recording! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I'd like to hear something from A.I. besides "For Always". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Studio quality c.d. recordings of:1-No existing bootlegs:Celebration Fanfare Fanfare for 10 year oldFanfare for Michael DukakisFanfare for Prince Philip2-Following entries are entitled "JW Various Recordings Crappy Sound" in my itunes library:SoundingsWere Lookin GoodVariations on Happy BirthdayHorn ConcertoNBC "rodeo" ThemeNBC Scherzo for TodayNBC Fugue for the Changing TimesThe Lost World Theme with 1998 Tokyo performance opening.Duel of the Fates instrumentalE.T. Botanicus (Universal E.T. ride)Satellite Celebration (with choir)Double Trouble (expanded concert arrangement with no choir)3- The sound of these 2 is pretty good from the CSO Internet broadcastTributes Fanfare for a Festive Occasion4-And ,as pointed out:Marions theme Concert VersionIrenas theme expanded concert versionHPSS Children's SuiteA Bridge to the Past.Indeed. And: We're Looking Good! which is probably his best Olympic theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 The concert version of The Flag Parade has never been releasedActually, Erich Kunzel recorded it with the Cincinnati Pops.There is also a Varese rerecording of this and other pieces from TPM on an album of 1999 film scores.The Darkside Beckons can never be succesfully re-recorded.I know KM agrees with me.I agree ,the mix of the chorus and orchestra or tempo would probably be off"Off" is a relative term. It would probably sound different than the original recording. It *should* sound different. It just *might* be better. More likely, it will just be *different*. And different can be good, there's no reason why a different take on this cue must automatically be bad.Beethoven's symphonies are still constantly being performed and "re-recorded" (a term I increasingly dislike) these days, and every once in a while, one of the new versions is substantially worthwhile. The Rolling Stones are still playing their songs from the 60s at concerts today, and while the general consensus is that they were at their peak in the 60s, the current live version of those songs often beat the original album recordings (when they're in good form - which apparently is somewhat of a gamble these days).It would certainly be difficult. Unless Williams himself does it, it probably wouldn't have enough prestige to warrant the necessary amount of budget and rehearsal time. But I say it's a chance worth taking. If it turns out to be simply bad, we can simply ignore it. If it turns out to be good, it'd be a great addition to the available Williams recordings.Exactly, the point of rerecordings is not to replicate the original but to give it a fresh take. If I wanted something that sounded exactly like the original I would just listen to the original. The point is, this music deserves to be recorded and performed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I don't know what I would like to hear re-recorded, but I know what should never be re-recorded again: the Star Wars main titles.It should be banned by law from any Williams compilation for the next twenty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I'd like to hear him record an instrumental version of the SE's 'Victory Celebration.' A new spin on it might be quite cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 I don't know what I would like to hear re-recorded, but I know what should never be re-recorded again: the Star Wars main titles.It should be banned by law from any Williams compilation for the next twenty years.That and "Flying" from E.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odnurega1 0 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 If he was going to re-record one piece, I'd want a re-recording of "Superstructure Chase." Make it sound just like the original recording, only with better sound quality--that is, if a better source for it isn't found and released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Superstructure chase is just a rehash of the final battle from Star Wars,of which we had plenty of re recordings.In fact It's the cue I care least about in RotJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Oh my, he was serious about the special effects...What about the original material in Superstructure Chase? Even though apparently it's not certain that it was written by Williams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Original material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I was going to post thatBut I don;t remember it perfectly enough to tell if there are small new inserts and transitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Didn't Silva Screen also record the Flag Parade concert version?I've got that Greatest Hits CD, one of my first compilations and Williams CDs. I remember being excited for the inclusion of Short Round's theme (I only had the S/W Collaboration then). It's a decent CD, nothing out of the ordinary though. But frankly I'd have to listen to it again to make a decent judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 KM has raped my childhood with these Special Edition Posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 By the way, if you want a piece rerecorded, you might always politely mail Silva Screen with a request. Though I don't believe at all in petitions or its kind, I did that for the Harry Potter 3 concert suites, and, well, apparently it doesn't do any harm asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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