The Quick Question Thread

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Crap

Hmm, I wonder if he let anything about it slip in an interview or something like that. He seems like a pretty friendly person though.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

He mentioned rather cheekily changing the chords for Hedwig's Theme from the original Williams arrangements when he did Goblet Of Fire when he was asked about it in Ubeda years ago. Thats all I ever heard.

But was the story of Williams muscling out Doyle nothing but a rumor? As I understand it Doyle was undergoing treatment for cancer at that time and was unable to score that film.

[Hlao-roo 389]

But was the story of Williams muscling out Doyle nothing but a rumor? As I understand it Doyle was undergoing treatment for cancer at that time and was unable to score that film.

"Doyle was recovering from leukemia when he scored this film about a woman dying of cancer and they still threw out his music, claiming he wasn't available to make changes. Isn't that what music editors are for?"

(http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2002/25_Apr---Missing_Rejected.asp)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

It's a tough business, but what you gonna do? Opening night is opening night!

[Marian Schedenig 8,206]

But was the story of Williams muscling out Doyle nothing but a rumor? As I understand it Doyle was undergoing treatment for cancer at that time and was unable to score that film.

"Doyle was recovering from leukemia when he scored this film about a woman dying of cancer and they still threw out his music, claiming he wasn't available to make changes. Isn't that what music editors are for?"

(http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2002/25_Apr---Missing_Rejected.asp)

Doesn't mean Williams actively pushed him out though.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Indeed!

[Incanus 5,715]

Yeah. If Williams agreed to score the film when Columbus (or studio) approached him, it doesn't mean he elbowed Doyle out of the project. Sounds like the usual studio politics to me.

[mrbellamy 6,287]

What was that picture that (I think) Michael used to have as his avatar of John and Jerry against the Looney Tunes background? And what was it from? That was hilarious.

[Jay 37,369]

It was drawn by this guy:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16515

[Jilal 569]

Is this the only footage we have of Williams playing a bit of underscore he might have wrote some minutes earlier at the piano and writing it down?

11:00

[Incanus 5,715]

One of the rare instances surely. I remember he previewed some of his music for The Patriot (the piccolo flute bridge material in the Patriot end credits suite) some TV channel in 2000 as they wanted to hear a snippet of the new music (the writer described it as claxon of panicked geese if I remember correctly).

Also there is the wonderful BBC 1980 ESB documentary where JW goes through the sketches with Herb Spencer.

[Loert 2,515]

Was the song "Any Day Now" (cut from the 1971 film Fiddler on the Roof) composed by Williams or somebody else? Who wrote the lyrics?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

How safe is it to read the True Detective thread? I've only watched the first half of the season so far.

[Jay 37,369]

Erm, you can read up through the posts discussing the most recent episode you saw, and not read past that....

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't that obvious?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I couldn't remember if it was a spoilers allowed thread or not so I've been avoiding it since the season started.

[Jay 37,369]

Yea, you don't want to read any posts in that thread about episodes you haven't seen yet.

But we begin discussing Season 2 towards the bottom of page 8, and you could simply stop reading when you see the first post about the first episode you haven't seen (IE don't read my Jul 22nd post on page 10 and beyond in your case).

Or just binge watch the last 4 then join us!

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I just binge watched the first 4! The other 4 will be later this week.

[Jay 37,369]

Pretty tense shootout scene in episode 4, eh?

Who do you think killed Caspere and why?

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Why didn't John Williams write something "bigger" for Obama's inauguration? It was a pretty historic occasion and probably warranted more than a (to be fair, really good) arrangement of Appalachian Spring. Was he crunched for time? Was an arrangement of that piece requested specifically?

All of this while Dookakas gets his own fanfare. Speaking of that, is there anywhere I can listen to that fanfare?

[Incanus 5,715]

If I remember correctly the choice of Simple Gifts was because Williams knew Obama to be a big fan of Appalachian Spring (the tune of Simple Gifts itself is a 19th century folk tune) and Copland but I don't think the reasons behind the intimate quartet setting of the piece were ever discussed. I would surmise that Williams wanted to create something more unexpected than the usual fanfaric material he is called upon to provide at these national events.

[Bespin 8,484]

If I remember correctly the choice of Simple Gifts was because Williams knew Obama to be a big fan of Appalachian Spring (the tune of Simple Gifts itself is a 19th century folk tune) and Copland but I don't think the reasons behind the intimate quartet setting of the piece were ever discussed. I would surmise that Williams wanted to create something more unexpected than the usual fanfaric material he is called upon to provide at these national events.

Worth to mention that this pieces required four players.

An asian, a jew, a latino and a black... all playing togheter!

For the symbolic, it was hard to make better!

John Williams, the Genius.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Political discussion is not allowed on JWFan.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Why is Poledouris's Conan constantly used as ammo in poorly thought out anti-Williams tirades?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

Because it's awesome.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

It is but for some reason people keep using it to prove "the folly of Williams!!!!!!1".

Must be from that Nostalgia Critic video "11 most epic movie-songs". Conan made an appearance on that.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

It is but for some reason people keep using it to prove "the folly of Williams!!!!!!1".

But who are these people you're referring to? Film music fans, or random people on the Internet who don't know shit about film music and just mention Poledouris' Conan because it's one of the few scores they've heard about?

I shouldn't let it bother me but it just does.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Can anybody here link to the thread that explains the process of username changing? There's no period after the "Mr" in my name and it's been bothering me for years.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

You have to ask one of the mods to change it for you. You can't change it yourself.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Okay. Jay please change my name to Mr. Big?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

PM, dude, PM!

[Bespin 8,484]

Can anybody here link to the thread that explains the process of username changing? There's no period after the "Mr" in my name and it's been bothering me for years.

I don't know for english, but in french, if the abbreviation actually ends with the last letter of the complete word... well it don't need a period.

Ex. "N°" or "No" in french doesn't need a period at the end, because the "o" is the last letter of "Numéro".

EDIT : "Mr" is the correct way to write the abbreviation in the UK, that's perfectly logical and correct.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/does-mr-take-a-period/

British usage: Ms Jones
American usage: Ms. Jones

Although British usage makes more sense to me, I am careful to write the periods after Mr, Mrs, Ms and Dr on American correspondence.

Mr. Big is American.

[Wojo 2,453]

Of course. He's notorious.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

And a Bond villain...

[Wojo 2,453]

I'll take your word on that.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

He's the main villain in Live And Let Die (the book rather then the movie)

[Bespin 8,484]

Sex and the City.

[karelm 2,914]

For the history buffs in this forum, what was the real story about Stravinsky's estate suing JW for Star Wars? Is this a rumor or was it true and what was the outcome? Also, what was the cause of the issue? Was this a matter of being asked to "follow" the temp too much?

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

The early Tatooine music is very obviously Stravinskian, probably because of Lucas/the temp, yeah. I've never heard of the lawsuit or whatever being more than an urban legend. But if it's true it's just as silly as the Holst/Zimmer business.

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

Anyone know what version of How The West Was Won's theme is this?

I love it so much

[Faleel 5,357]

what instruments are playing across the stars at 0:28?

[karelm 2,914]

what instruments are playing across the stars at 0:28?

Horns and clarinets are playing the Across the stars theme.

[Faleel 5,357]

a certain type of clarinet like Bass etc. or just a standard clarinet?

[karelm 2,914]

what instruments are playing across the stars at 0:28?

Horns and clarinets are playing the Across the stars theme.

I hear a horn and a clarinet an octave above. The sound effects are mucking it up a bit so it might be horn + a clarinet doubling it and another clarinet an octave above. It doesn't sound like a bass clarinet. A high bass clarinet is a pretty noticeable sound.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Yes, at least one horn and a clarinet an octave up, maybe a second clarinet or bassoon doubling the horn at unison.

[Faleel 5,357]

Is this about right then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9dXNIV1dDRGJqN2M/view?usp=sharing

[karelm 2,914]

Is this about right then?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9dXNIV1dDRGJqN2M/view?usp=sharing

Yep sounds right.

[Faleel 5,357]

so here is the full mockup:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9WTNDNE5iWVEyTGM/view?usp=sharing

how close to being complete is this mockup?

[karelm 2,914]

so here is the full mockup:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9WTNDNE5iWVEyTGM/view?usp=sharing

how close to being complete is this mockup?

It sounds ok other than balance issues (horn too loud and clarinets not loud enough).