Trent B 337 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Listening to Predator and love the clarity of this. However, there are two things I've found that I do not like at all in terms of editing.1: "Girl's Escape / Blaine's Death", they should have had it like the Varèse set, hell this even cuts off the last couple of notes from "Girl's Escape".2: "Billy and Predator", again they cut the last couple of notes off for "Billy" and it segues very weird into "Predator".I wonder why they couldn't have had the presentation of the cues like the Varèse set. Not sure if I'm gonna find any more bad edits but so far these are the only two I've run across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Roger says I'll say it's one of my favorite Williams' scores and I've prized that SLC release (even with it's rather muddy sound) all these years. As Doug explained it to me, the Japanese labels in the 80s and 90s always preferred working with 1/4" analog masters, even when better elements were available. Nonetheless, it's a masterpiece to me. Along with THE REIVERS.ACCIDENTAL TOURIST is not one I could ever get into...mainly I thought the score in full length was a bit monotonous, although parts of it I do like.I think SPACECAMP is a bit more obscure title that people realize. The film is not readily available, it was never popular, and the LP didn't do well enough for RCA to push onto CD, which was becoming dominant at the time. Question is, did the film perform any better/worse than MONSIGNOR? Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 So by that did he basically confirm it is Spacecamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 SpaceCamp came out at a bad time. Right when the Challenger explosion occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,242 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 SpaceCamp came out at a bad time. Right when the Challenger explosion occurred.I'll never forget that day.So by that did he basically confirm it is Spacecamp?I'm not sure. In the context of the thread on Intrada's forum, it was Roger simply discussing the score. But he seems to know quite a bit about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Intrada has posted higher resolution (600x600px) cover art for some of their releases on their product pages:http://intrada.net/cv6/Predator.jpghttp://intrada.net/cv6/GeoWash.jpghttp://intrada.net/cv6/RoboCop.jpg... and others ...A nice courtesy for those who care about that sort of thing, like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,242 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Oh awesome! And I went through the trouble of actually scanning my copy of Predator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Starting with the CDs on Page 3 of the Special Collections, there are links for the 600 x 600 covers. And George Washington appears to be the only Signature title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 And George Washington was the one I specifically requested at the Intrada forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 Thanks for letting us know Jacob! I had wondered if there was a higher resolution version of the front cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Intrada has posted higher resolution (600x600px) cover art for some of their releases on their product pages:http://intrada.net/cv6/Predator.jpghttp://intrada.net/cv6/GeoWash.jpghttp://intrada.net/cv6/RoboCop.jpg... and others ...A nice courtesy for those who care about that sort of thing, like myself.Hotlinking, are we? Uncool, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 * crosses Hlao-roo off Christmas card list * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 They've added more. As of last night page 2 of the Special Collections had 600 x 600 scans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,242 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Looks like Page 1 too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yes I checked this morning and it looks like Page 1 has cover scans available now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,242 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Me likey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Would that be found at:http://intrada.net/cv6/?I only found that by reverse engineering Jacob's link, but what's the "front door" to get there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 www.intrada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Would that be found at:http://intrada.net/cv6/?I only found that by reverse engineering Jacob's link, but what's the "front door" to get there?Clever girl...There's just a link near the top of the individual product pages, labeled "600x600 Cover".E.g.: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6705/.f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 www.intrada.comReally...Are there 600x600 res scans for other vendors' artwork, specifically LLR? FSM has them readily available, but Varese has a pesky "do not right click me" script on their pages that forces me to reverse engineer the link or raid my cache folder to find the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 FSM has started to provide high resolution covers at their website on some of the newer releases, SAE also has the same links. From time to time LaLaLand will give high res cover scans. MV posted images for the last trio of Krull, Batman and Predators in the announcement thread at FSM. Varese, no. You can try Amazon and I have a link I can send you later on tonite for high res covers. I don't remember the name of the site but I have it saved at home.Unfortunately some of the scans from people other than the labels are rather poor at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Vincent 237 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 FSM has them readily available, but Varese has a pesky "do not right click me" script on their pages that forces me to reverse engineer the link or raid my cache folder to find the files.Go to www.colosseum.de. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 You're right, I did get the high res covers of K, B, and P that you mentioned, and have them saved in a massive folder of stuff, which is slightly better than not having them at all.I'd scan covers in myself, but I can't find the adapter for my flatbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Roger has provided one last clue about Tuesday's 1200 unit Premiere Release of an 80's score:It's dark. Literally the film and musically the score. Remember, the first clue wasThe 1200 release is from a thriller, and offers this composers' most serious, dark work that I've come across. Definitely different from his usual upbeat style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Something from Bill Conti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 When asked to clarify his "dark" comment, Roger says:Dark in many senses, although I was specifically thinking about how the bulk of the movie takes place at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 When asked to clarify his "dark" comment, Roger says:Dark in many senses, although I was specifically thinking about how the bulk of the movie takes place at night.Quit policing me, jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't think this has been posted yet, but the reissue seems almost certainly to be SpaceCamp: The other CD sports a reissue of a title first available as a generous LP when the movie opened in the eighties, then appearing again on a very short-lived CD a few years later. Yep. Another Oscar-winning composer showing off, here writing in his most popular and exciting style. Bold, robust, dynamic stuff. And a powerhouse finale that ranks with the best of 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 OK, it's SpaceCamp Better find myself ready on Monday night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 It's way overdue. Another chapter in 80s Williams chronology closed for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,242 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Friggin' awesome! But imagine if it's not SpaceCamp, but something we overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 The clues could also point out to David Shire's Return to Oz, but SpaceCamp looks more and more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 When asked to clarify his "dark" comment, Roger says:Dark in many senses, although I was specifically thinking about how the bulk of the movie takes place at night.Quit policing me, jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Monday night at 8, right? I gotta grab this one. I don't feel safe waiting around anymore after what happened with Predator. Film score fans these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,087 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Wait, so has it been confirmed that it's SpaceCamp? And if so, how good is the score really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Based on all the clues and rumblings and posts and everything, it's almost certainly SpaceCamp. I'd say 97% likely.As for how good it is. Only you can decide:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQWcZpoXjg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Wait, so has it been confirmed that it's SpaceCamp? And if so, how good is the score really?It's Williams writing in his '80s style, so it's very tonal, melodic and upbeat, with lots of shimmering textures, brilliant fanfares and catchy motifs. If you want a reference, it's quite similar to his two Amazing Stories scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I should really listen to this, I've had it for ages. Not sure if I'll purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,757 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I've decided against. While the suite starts with some nice Williams fanfares, it gradually goes into a much more classical style, and passages which (having not seen the film) really mean little to me. I'd never listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,087 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 After listening to the suite...I might buy it, if it is SpaceCamp. (Which does seem very likely.) This music is really well put together. I haven't heard any melodies that are particularly memorable, at least after the first listen, but the tonalities and orchestrational choices are brilliant, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 As for how good it is. Only you can decide:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQWcZpoXjgGee, that's SpaceCamp? I must pick it up if it's released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,087 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't know how Williams creates the textures he does. Even once I've spent hours studying the score for a really spectacular cue, I feel like I only understand the most superficial level of how he creates such outstanding effects. That man is a freak. Something wired wrong in his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,240 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 So how long until this one sells out? I'll be waiting at my PC when it's announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 So how long until this one sells out? I'll be waiting at my PC when it's announced.I'm betting it'll sell out as fast as Predator did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,242 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I agree with Trent. It's got a long perceived history of being "expensive" on the secondary market. It's from Johnny's golden era. It's subject matter and genre of scoring is very accessible and listenable. I don't see this hanging on like Monsignor. Assuming it is indeed SpaceCamp of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,240 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I was rather wondering if it'll be around as long as Predator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Wait, so has it been confirmed that it's SpaceCamp? And if so, how good is the score really?It may surprise you. It's extremely listenable. It won't knock your socks off, or give you something new, but a pleasant score that has classic Williams' characteristics all over it.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 So how long until this one sells out? I'll be waiting at my PC when it's announced.I'm betting it'll sell out as fast as Predator did.Probably. It's like a game of film score monopoly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,087 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 It may surprise you. It's extremely listenable. It won't knock your socks off, or give you something new, but a pleasant score that has classic Williams' characteristics all over it.Yeah, based on the suite, that seems like it's probably a fair description. Assuming the price is reasonable, I'll probably pick this up while I can. Unfortunately, I'll be working tomorrow night when the announcement is made, but I doubt it'll sell out in a matter of hours, even though it probably will go quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 what will be roughly the supposed price of the supposed spacecamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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