Edmilson 7,456 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I used to love Snow White and the Huntsman, but now, after Maleficent and three Fantastic Beasts scores, it's near the bottom of the list of JNH fantasy scores. Still, there's some decent moments there (and some that are only on the bootleg). Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: I used to love Snow White and the Huntsman, but now, after Maleficent and three Fantastic Beasts scores, it's near the bottom of the list of JNH fantasy scores. Still, there's some decent moments there (and some that are only on the bootleg). This is so much better than either Beasts II or III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 It may be better than Secrets of Dumbledore, whose best moments are all taken from the first two scores. But I really don't care about Snow White's more modern and Zimmer-esque approach to its action music. Warriors on the Beach is a really frustrating cue who sounds like it was heavily temped with Inception and/or The Dark Knight, despite some nice choir writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, Edmilson said: But I really don't care about Snow White's more modern and Zimmer-esque approach to its action music. Warriors on the Beach is a really frustrating cue who sounds like it was heavily temped with Inception and/or The Dark Knight, despite some nice choir writing. I'll say that Huntsman II is even better and i tend to lump the two into one. The second has a more rounded theme and if you subtract the egregious action stuff - hey, we agree on that! - you end up with a good 72-minute album (that is thematically confused, for sure, but aesthetically so similar that it doesn't matter much. See here: Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 03/05/2022 at 8:15 PM, Jurassic Shark said: The middle one? Yep. Is it any good? Speaking of which, are any of these worthwhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Yep. Is it any good? Intriguing when I first sampled it, but too simplistic when I heard the whole thing. 12 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Yep. Is it any good? Speaking of which, are any of these worthwhile? I've got one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I'm guessing the Howard Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: I'm guessing the Howard Shore. I've only got four Shore albums in my collection, and I really like only one of them. I was referring to the Händel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: I've only got four Shore albums in my collection, and I really like only one of them. What are these? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've only got four Shore albums in my collection, and I really like only one of them. Let me guess. The Fellowship of the Ring. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Yep. Is it any good? Speaking of which, are any of these worthwhile? Eastern Promises is an excellent Shore score. Parenthood is an utterly charming Randy Newman comedy. I don't recall Entrapment offhand but I think it's a pretty solid action/thriller. The Madness of King George is adapted Handel so if you like Handel, yes, if not, no. The American President is lovely, a bit like Lincoln with a more on the nose main theme - I miss Marc Shaiman writing film music, and Mrs Henderson Presents... I don't have. But it's George Fenton, I expect it's lovely. The musical version, which also has music by Fenton, is pretty good by the way. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Guernsey said: Eastern Promises is an excellent Shore score. Parenthood is an utterly charming Randy Newman comedy. I don't recall Entrapment offhand but I think it's a pretty solid action/thriller. The Madness of King George is adapted Handel so if you like Handel, yes, if not, no. The American President is lovely, a bit like Lincoln with a more on the nose main theme - I miss Marc Shaiman writing film music, and Mrs Henderson Presents... I don't have. But it's George Fenton, I expect it's lovely. The musical version, which also has music by Fenton, is pretty good by the way. I remember at the time being quite disappointed by Entrapment. My favourite Young score used to be Copycat and Murder in the First. So, I was expecting some strong melodies. Without success. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I remember at the time being quite disappointed by Entrapment. My favourite Young score used to be Copycat and Murder in the First. So, I was expecting some strong melodies. Without success. Well I said "solid" - not quite a ringing endorsement lol. I'll give it another listen anyway. It's certainly no Hard Rain (if that's a viable comparison). Just realised I don't have either Copycat or Murder in the First. Clearly will need to rectify this. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Guernsey said: Well I said "solid" - not quite a ringing endorsement lol. I'll give it another listen anyway. It's certainly no Hard Rain (if that's a viable comparison). I always thought, If Young had done a better job for Entrapment, this could have been his ticket into the A league of Hollywood composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I always thought, If Young had done a better job for Entrapment, this could have been his ticket into the A league of Hollywood composers. Yes, possibly, he never quite broke through in that way. Then again, he's not one of those must listen to composers for me. I do own and enjoy a decent number of his scores from horror to action to comedy (his jazzier scores are great) but it only occasionally occurs to me to listen to his stuff. I should probably explore more though. Having said that, I found the Copycat end title on the Judas Kiss album and am just listening to it and enjoying it very much indeed. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Eastern Promises is an excellent Shore score. Introspective Shore with a solo violin theme that's curiously reminiscent of Nyman's Gattaca. It's a fine score and supports its film well, but I had already grown rather tired of this kind of overly sober approach when it came out and never picked up the album. 20 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: I don't recall Entrapment offhand but I think it's a pretty solid action/thriller. I have it and don't remember it. I think it's solid Young, so just what you said - it's not essential Young, one can't really go wrong with him either. 20 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: The Madness of King George is adapted Handel so if you like Handel, yes, if not, no. From the era when Fenton was the go to guy for pseudo-authentic period underscores. Performed on period instruments I believe. As far as I recall, it's hard to tell where Händel ends and Fenton starts, so certainly an accomplishment. Whether that's worth having or the Händel originals are a better investment of your time must be decided by people who are better familiar with Händel than I am. 7 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I always thought, If Young had done a better job for Entrapment, this could have been his ticket into the A league of Hollywood composers. Perhaps, but then Hard Rain (which with the recent expansion I discovered is much more engaging than I'd remembered) should probably have done the same for him? Perhaps doing The Core broke his commercial neck, though it's one of his best (and I'll always be grateful to @crocodile for praising it so much I kept giving it new chances until it finally clicked). Tom Guernsey, GerateWohl and 1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I remember at the time being quite disappointed by Entrapment. My favourite Young score used to be Copycat and Murder in the First. So, I was expecting some strong melodies. Without success. Fun film, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Fun film, though. That's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: As far as I recall, it's hard to tell where Händel ends and Fenton starts, so certainly an accomplishment. Whether that's worth having or the Händel originals are a better investment of your time must be decided by people who are better familiar with Händel than I am. I'm sorry to say it's very easy to tell what's Fenton, as his contributions are significantly lighter, and not that interesting. 47 minutes ago, crocodile said: What are these? Karol Ed Wood Looking for @Naïve Old Fart The Aviator The Fellowship of the Ring All have good highlights, but are somewhat disappointing as a whole. Except Fellowship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 The Aviator is great actually. I like the whole thing. Karol Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I really like parts of it, and I've tried to like the whole thing, but it's always left me rather ambivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: ...it's always left me rather ambivalent. Any more of this shit... 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Looking for @Naïve Old Fart ... and you'll be amputated. Spoiler Only joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm sorry to say it's very easy to tell what's Fenton, as his contributions are significantly lighter, and not that interesting. Hm, perhaps I should listen to it again. And Dangerous Liaisons, too. It's been years. 1977 and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Any more of this shit... ... and you'll be amputated. Reveal hidden contents Only joking It's only a flesh wound. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Ed Wood Looking for @Naïve Old Fart The Aviator The Fellowship of the Ring All have good highlights, but are somewhat disappointing as a whole. Except Fellowship. You should check out The Return of the King OST. It is my my favourite of Shore's Middle Earth scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Just now, GerateWohl said: You should check out The Return of the King OST. It is my my favourite of Shore's Middle Earth scores. Of course I have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Of course I have! What about this one? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I've checked it out several times, wanting to like it, but to me it wasn't very memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Wow! That's really hip. Groovy, man. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 John Towner Williams.... Hmm...Didnt he used to post on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Wow! That's really hip. Groovy, man. "Hey Clark, a bunch of us are going up to Mary Ellens, play some records. You wanna come?" It's a great listen. It's all available on the Jazz Beginnings CD, but I really dig the art and wanted a standalone release with the original cover. After two listens, my initial impressions are that the John Towner Touch is a better example of Johnny's piano playing being in the forefront. Wish they'd do a standalone CD of that one. I just love old cover art like this, and there's still some novelty of it shrunk down to CD proportions for me. Bespin and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Andy said: "Hey Clark, a bunch of us are going up to Mary Ellens, play some records. You wanna come?" It's a great listen. It's all available on the Jazz Beginnings CD, but I really dig the art and wanted a standalone release with the original cover. After two listens, my initial impressions are that the John Towner Touch is a better example of Johnny's piano playing being in the forefront. Wish they'd do a standalone CD of that one. I just love old cover art like this, and there's still some novelty of it shrunk down to CD proportions for me. Does this Japanese World on a String release have English liner notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 It reproduces the back cover with its original text, but the booklet liner notes are all in Japanese. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (I wanted the original album, not the new expansion, so I purchased this release which is between the two and it was cheaper) It still seems the only way to get this Theme on CD, The OST or the Promo... So I purchased the Promo! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I'm a big fan of Thomas Newman, but for some reason I just can't "get" Cinderella Man. It has some nice moments, but it still falls short of Shawshank, Green Mile, etc. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I don't share your vision. I think it’s not because a composer evolves that his old works become obsolete. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 One T.M. score that doesn't seem to get much love, around here, is PASSENGERS. Personally, I like it. Bespin and Edmilson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I like it too, it's a pretty good score and it's the best thing about that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Ah! Can't say that I've seen the film, but I do like the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 New arrivals: The Setting Sun, found this rare sealed copy of Jarre at SAE during their 20% sale and this Korngold re-recording mastered by DCC label Steve Hoffmann. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I'm unfamiliar with The Setting Sun, but the Lionel Newman conducted Korngold album is a favourite. May I ask how much you had to pay for these? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: May I ask how much you had to pay for these? For great music? Never too much. Jurassic Shark and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm unfamiliar with The Setting Sun, but the Lionel Newman conducted Korngold album is a favourite. May I ask how much you had to pay for these? For Jarre this was $32 (SAE). for Kornold this was around £ 12 (Ebay) Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 03/05/2022 at 11:40 PM, bollemanneke said: Indeed, but I chose that one because it's the only good period one that nails the dance in the pastorale (movement 3). Yeah, there's many period cycles from the 80s and early 90s that's not very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Wow! Isn't this interweb thingy great? You just click on something you want, and then, a few days later, there is a satisfying "plop" through your mail box My order arrived, consisting of the Monteverdi Vespers (Gardiner), and RVW Symphonies 3 & 5, and 4 & 6 (Norrington/LPO). Fantastic! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: RVW Symphonies 3 & 5, and 4 & 6 (Norrington/LPO). Norrington with the LPO was my first encounter with RVW, back when I had one of my first concert subscriptions. The Wiener Philharmoniker offered cycles of dress rehearsal tickets for students*, and every year's cycle included one guest orchestra, in this case the LPO. I don't recall if it was the Cockaigne overture or the 4th symphony (both were included in different years' subscription). *) When Rattle did Symphonie fantastique, he simply skipped the march (4th movement) in the rehersal… Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Wow! Isn't this interweb thingy great? You just click on something you want, and then, a few days later, there is a satisfying "plop" through your mail box Right? It’s dangerous. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Andy said: Right? It’s dangerous. Oh, tell me about it! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted May 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just received an enormous Horner shipment: Legends of the Falls (Intrada) Apollo 13 (Intrada) 48 Hours (Intrada) Another 48 (Intrada) An American Tail (Intrada) The Land Before Time (Intrada) A Far Off Place (Intrada) Glory (LLL) Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (LLL) Field of Dreams (LLL) My wallet now 1977, Jay, Andy and 3 others 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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