Popular Post LSH 969 Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 Now this is a score I don't hear anybody mentioning much of anymore... and this is possibly only my second/third listen since it came out so I remembered very little. What a blast! Let's remember, this is still - though only just - pre-Avatar and he hadn't really done anything like this sort of family-friendly fantasy fair for a good while at this point. There's tonnes of echoes from the likes of Jumanji, Bicentennial Man, Willow, Casper, The Rocketeer, The Land Before Time... even The Spitfire Grill and the Zorro films. The cue The Flight Of The Griffin is sublime Horner. I love it! DemonStar, Tom Guernsey, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 It's not consistent enough for an entirely enjoyable listening experience; very much a 'it has its moments' affair. Nevertheless, those 'moments' - few and far between - are really quite good. The final cue The New World is one of those sublime resolution cues that JNH is so good at. A slow emotional build-up to a cathartic fanfare; the same winning formula of similar cues in The Water Horse: Legend Of The Deep, Treasure Planet, et al. Wouldn't mind James being invited back to do some more animation. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull I've been binging Indy music for the past few weeks, and now the time has come to re-evaluate the most controversial of the four scores. Listening to the bootleg, I think I can pinpoint the exact reason why this score isn't as beloved as the other three. It all boils down to reel 3, which concentrates all the "boring suspense cues" that bring the listening experience down. But, aside from that, all the other reels contain interesting and energetic music that, although not as inspired as the underscore for the other three, it's still quite fun and have some great moments. So, when listening to KOTCS again, you may want to skip reel 3 altogether, or just keep one or two cues from it in order to have a calm bridge between "A Whirl Through Academe" on reel 2 and "Staring Down the Skull" on reel 4. LSH and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 969 Posted September 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2022 This is a great score in itself but it holds a very special place in my heart because it was the first moment that my little sister (aged 4 at the time) actually noticed - and loved - music from a film; she still loves and listens to it now at the age of 20. Yes, it has been that long. Anyway, it often coaxes a nostalgic tear from us both. The finale, the uninterrupted assemblage of The Water Recedes / Mammoths / With The Herd / Into The Sunset is a moving and stirring seven minutes of awesome music. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Tom Guernsey, GerateWohl and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I admit - and it saddens me to admit - that it's been a few years since Newman has truly impressed us. His output over the past few years has been dour. I look at this particular score as the last genuinely great thing he did. Revisiting it now, it's really really lovely. There's some textures here that are still a relatively uncommon thing for Newman... the use of real voices, choirs. Really gorgeous. It's still a Newman score through and through... unmistakably... but he made this one more interesting than most. It really stands out in his 2015-present discography. I dunno. I'm in mourning. I want my old Newman back. I hope this Wonder film and that Dracula thing he's attached to brings some interesting music. Edmilson and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 James Horner - Troy OST James Horner - The New World OST James Horner - Apocalypto OST James Horner - The Spiderwick Chronicles OST Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,394 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 03/09/2022 at 4:19 PM, Tom Guernsey said: Agreed in both Mulan scores. HGW’s didn’t do much for me at all. I actually had modestly high expectations as he has written some decent scores but this was just a bit of a dud. Of course it’s always tricky comparing to Jerry especially when he was firing on all cylinders but even with tempered/realistic expectations I was disappointed. Obligatory hope for a complete Mulan release (although Intrada not Disney. Thanks). Certainly agree about the remake score. I've mentioned before that when I saw Wreck it Ralph 2 the biggest thrill was when rather than quote any of Mulan's songs they gave a big bright quote of Goldsmith's score. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Indianagirl 298 Posted September 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2022 Tom Guernsey, Bespin and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted September 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2022 That came fast... The least of the Dante/Goldsmith cinematic formulations in terms of ingenuity, it' still enjoyable in a cozy, late-afternoon tv kind of way. Its main selling point for sure is the silky, nostalgic seven note theme introduced in 'Coming Attractions' that accompanies the prototypical Dante stroll tough a Rockwellian american small town. By 1993 Goldsmith had these pat down, and the movie's charmingly satirical dividends (the time cuban missile crisis, hucksters, radiation-caused movie monsters) are all addressed appropriately, though there's a strong going-through-the-motions vibe, which was typical for the early to mid 90's Goldsmith before his rebound in 1995. Goldsmith only once refers to the movie's hilarious 'Them!' parody 'Mant' in a broad macabre fright motif (to be found twice in the 'Showtime' cue) and it's a shame that nothing more came of it. It's great 'Burbs' territory. Tom Guernsey, Naïve Old Fart and Kasey Kockroach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 James Horner day 2 James Horner - Flightplan OST (Spotify) James Horner - The Legend of Zorro OST (Spotify) James Horner - All the King's Men OST (Spotify) James Horner - The Life Before Her Eyes OST (Spotify) Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,394 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Indianagirl said: Wow. That goes back a bit. I should revisit this. The only Goldenthal scores I know even passingly well are this, Alien 3, and Batman Forever. He is by far the best thing about all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 The cinematography in all three, is very good. Any Goldenthal is worth a listen. Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Continuing the Goldenthal theme yesterday, I gave the FYC version of Frida a listen yesterday. Typically fine work, even if for about half its run time you wouldn't necessarily know it's Goldenthal but the later tracks feature some more of his more prototypical orchestral writing with wild brass and the rest. I'm glad he got recognition from the Oscars at least once as he could so easily never have won, although I'd put this in the category of "glad they won and got the recognition they deserved even if it wasn't for one of their best scores" (I have similar feelings about James Horner and Titanic). Can anyone confirm if the Frida FYC is complete? (Not that it necessarily demands a longer presentation, I'm just curious). As far as I can tell, the equivalent score tracks on the soundtrack album are the same as on the FYC and since I never listen to the non-Goldenthal cues, I'm wondering about just keeping the FYC... publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I think the FYC is more enjoyable to listen to (less unnecessary filling). I purchased it exactly because it was impossible to reproduce using the OST. I would suggest you to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I think the FYC is more enjoyable to listen to (less unnecessary filling). I purchased it exactly because it was impossible to reproduce using the OST. I would suggest you to keep it. Thanks although are you saying I should keep the soundtrack too? I’m not bothered about the non-Goldenthal tracks so if everything by Goldenthal on the soundtrack is on the FYC then I’ll keep the FYC and ditch the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 You purchase a CD, you listen to it once, you encode it and then you sell it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, Bespin said: You purchase a CD, you listen to it once, you encode it and then you sell it? Not what I meant at all! I’ll probably keep the soundtrack cd but I’ll delete the tracks from my iTunes library. Frankly selling second hand CDs isn’t worth it, unless they are super out of print… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Hellboy by Marco Beltrami. Easily his career work. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 It's great Beltrami, to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Tallguy said: Wow. That goes back a bit. I should revisit this. The only Goldenthal scores I know even passingly well are this, Alien 3, and Batman Forever. He is by far the best thing about all three. I only own 2 Goldenthal scores. This one and Alien 3. Most of his work I feel like I haven't heard. Things like Titus, which I imagine is probably amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Michael Collins, Final Fantasy and Cobb are fantastic and really easy to get into, I think Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Indianagirl said: Titus, which I imagine is probably amazing. TITUS is amazing. BATMAN FOREVER, and SPHERE are pretty accessable. If you're feeling adventurous, try FIRE PAPER WATER: A VIETNAM ORATORIO. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: TITUS is amazing. BATMAN FOREVER, and SPHERE are pretty accessable. If you're feeling adventurous, try FIRE PAPER WATER: A VIETNAM ORATORIO. Agreed, although of his concert works, I'd suggest his Othello ballet (either the album from the original ballet version or the more recent symphony derived from the material) which is perhaps a bit more approachable. However, Goldenthal tends to me one of those composers where if you like one thing, you'll probably like most of his stuff. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Exactly, and when you've tried Goldenthal, move on to John Corigliano. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeepRitchie 4 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 The Five Man Army by Ennio Morricone. I hadn't spun this one for a while. Wow! it never fails. Such a great score. I had the old 1977 Duse LP and always wished there was more of the main theme. The FSM release certainly cured that. Incredible work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 ahhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 The Royal Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,017 Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 The River while walking to work on this rainy morning. Terrific score. Karol Naïve Old Fart, Tom Guernsey, publicist and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 But, oh, those summer nights! (Final part of my summer score playlist!) Jerry Goldsmith - Psycho II Expanded John Williams - Spacecamp Expanded Alan Silvestri - Predator Expanded Jerry Goldsmith - Total Recall Exanded Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Howard Shore - The Return of the King (OST) Last week I got a random desire to listen to some LOTR music, and went with the ROTK OST album, something I hadn't listened to in a while. Boy, it's a well-assembled highlights collection, innit? Like knowing the full score very well now thanks to the CR, when you put this on you know right away you're listening to a highlights collection, but it's well done. It just blasts through the narrative from big moment to big moment with a fast pace, but it works. The one complaint I would have about it is that the Grey Havens theme just arrives out of nowhere at the end of the album; The film and CR don't have this problem thanks to the great little "A Far Green Country" cue that perfectly introduces the theme and gives you all the setup you need for its powerful statements at the climax. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Musically more appealing (to me, there's a solid Horner/Barry vibe throughout) than the Price and Zimmer outings for such documentaries. The Budapest Symphony...do they remember the old Jerry sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just a random thought, I liked this footnote from John Mauceri's most recent book. What's funny, is that I sometimes see this coding of words like "Hollywood" and "cinema" or "movie" and "film" even among users on this forum that is dedicated to the very symbol of Hollywood sentimentality. These things get ingrained in the culture. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Jay said: Howard Shore - The Return of the King (OST) Last week I got a random desire to listen to some LOTR music, and went with the ROTK OST album, something I hadn't listened to in a while. Boy, it's a well-assembled highlights collection, innit? Like knowing the full score very well now thanks to the CR, when you put this on you know right away you're listening to a highlights collection, but it's well done. It just blasts through the narrative from big moment to big moment with a fast pace, but it works. The one complaint I would have about it is that the Grey Havens theme just arrives out of nowhere at the end of the album; The film and CR don't have this problem thanks to the great little "A Far Green Country" cue that perfectly introduces the theme and gives you all the setup you need for its powerful statements at the climax. Oh well. Is the "I can carry it for you" statement not on the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 That's the statement I'm referring to that appears out of nowhere on the score album because "A Far Green Country" doesn't set it up first like the film or CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Howard Shore - The Desolation of Smaug (complete) Had a weird craving for Hobbit music too, and went with this. I think it might be my favorite of his Hobbit trilogy. AUJ may have higher highs and that great MM theme, but isn't as consistent as DOS is. I feel like right from note one this score puts me in the mood for it, and is just solidly good until the end. I like all the new themes and action material, and it helps that I really really like all the Smaug material a lot. Holko and Mr. Who 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Honestly, when I reach for a Hobbit I reach for AUJ. DOS may be and have all that you said, but AUJ sounds more like a warm ME score, and has more of those cool clusters, sick brass, and aleatoric Shorian techniques that I so love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 John Powell - X-Men: The Last Stand You can really feel the temp track bleeding in (Elfman, Davis, Williams), but still this is a very entertaining score, probably my favorite from the X-Men franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Roll the Bones said: Honestly, when I reach for a Hobbit I reach for AUJ. DOS may be and have all that you said, but AUJ sounds more like a warm ME score, and has more of those cool clusters, sick brass, and aleatoric Shorian techniques that I so love. I'd love to visit the dimension where PJ didn't split the film into 3 and micromanage the music, and we got 2 tight great LPO scores conducted by Shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jay said: I'd love to visit the dimension where PJ didn't split the film into 3 and micromanage the music, and we got 2 tight great LPO scores conduected by Shore With all those unused themes used all the way through for a less serious and more whimsical adventure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 YES His company theme is my favorite theme of the trilogy, and Bilbo's Theme really deserved a proper continuation and climax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Ok, it's easy, guess where I go this week-end? John Williams - Jaws James Horner - The Perfect Storm John Williams - Jaws 2 John Williams - The Witches of Eastwick Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,394 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Someplace on the east coast of the United States... You could just pick a bunch of discs Lukas Kendall worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 That's not very precise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ok. You're going dress up as Captain Ahab, go hunt you're whale (or whatever), get caught in the rain, then float around a friend's swimming pool, before making wax candle dolls. Just yer average Bes weekend. Right Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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publicist 4,643 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 It remains what it always was: a 'sentimental favourite'. The repetitions of the main theme really grate on this 65 minute version. My favourite stuff in this score since 1993: the fanfare in 'Take Us Out' or its longer version, 'Tryouts'. These are really standouts no other composer could have nailed as well. Kasey Kockroach and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,394 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Oh! I had no idea Rudy was up on the streamers! Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,394 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Swing Kids - James Horner (1993) For most people this probably goes in the mish mash of Horner-y Horner scores. It's short and sweet (at least as it was released). 24 minutes, 7 tracks. The Letter and Swing Heil are the standouts for me because they contain the theme that I enjoy the most. Since it's Horner he probably has an entire score based on this theme that I would love and I just don't know it. I was a very enjoyable way to spend half an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Tallguy said: Oh! I had no idea Rudy was up on the streamers! Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today! Low hanging fruit... This on the other hand, is a much more substantial 1993 offering, probably Bernstein's last *great* score, it's a bit as if Brahms were reincarnated as jewish film composer in Southern California. It needed a filmmaker of Scorsese's standing to allow for it, but whatever the circumstances were, the 'classical' (in the best sense) idiom Bernstein employs here is unique and the orchestration is gorgeous (Bernstein even smuggles in his beloved Ondes Martenot, 'Ellen at the Beach'). There's virtually no filler, it plays like a concert work. I would also urge everyone who's into historical movies (minus trolls and dwarfs) and has not seen 'Age of Innocence' to watch it. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 "Low hanging fruit"? That's cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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