Josh500 1,615 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Do you like this movie/score? Yes, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 4 and 4.I'd rate the movie a full 5, if it were an hour shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Movie 4, score 5.It's a good film but goes on a bit, and also Jackson lets the effects come centre stage a bit too often.Love the score, one of my all time JNH favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 New York/On the Ship: 3/5 ----- the last part of the ship ride is really when it starts to get good)On Skull Island: 5/5 ------- EVERYTHING you expected from Peter Jackson, and more. The bug pit sequence is so dark, it almost feels out of place. Love his take on it!Back in New York/Empire State Building: 4/5 --------- Loved everything when they were on the building.As for the score, it was good, I really can't comment on it that much. I really like a statement when Kong is first climbing the building, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 3,5 and 3,5.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 4 and 4.I'd rate the movie a full 5, if it were an hour shorter. I'm not normally a fan of JNH, but he did a great job here. It's even better in film order. Would certainly love to hear Shore's music. Great use of period music as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 FIlm 4 stars. It drags a little sometimes. But it is rather entertaining.Score 3, its just decent.The CGI has some very good and very awful shots. Universal Spain: 0 stars, since they did not released the expanded edition because they didnt want to dub the new scenes. It would matter much, but they sold a 'special edition' package with the same cover design as the extended edition. With false advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I'm not normally a fan of JNH, but he did a great job here. It's even better in film order. Would certainly love to hear Shore's music. Great use of period music as well.Shore's effort is the one rejected score I hope to see released one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Movie = 4Score = 3.5The film is a tad bit too long, would have preferred Driscoll remain the first mate and not have his character split into two people. Too many characters and the film could be trimmed buy about 30 minutes. But I can appreciate it for the effort and what did appear on screen. The score is good and fun but feels rushed and frankly has ideas that sound like Howard Shore. Not really JNH's fault but I would really like to hear Shore's rejected score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Too many characters and the film That is perhaps the most fundamental problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Film - 4.5Score - 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 The movie is ok but way tooo long, as already mentioned here.The Universal studio ride was much shorter, better and frightening as hell.About the score; not best effort by Howard Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ooops! But I was kind of right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Movie: 3 - way too longScore: 3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 The movie is waaaaaaay too long for me & has some parts that are too over the top to believe (aside from the premise). The score certainly has some beautiful moments though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Movie 2, most of it really is beyond ridiculous. But I also find the LOTR films to be totally underwhelming, so you know where I'm coming from.The score is alright, I guess, no more, no less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Yeah man that movie was totally ridiculous. I mean they had dinosaurs and giant bugs and everything. What's next, a giant ape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Mostly it was the relationship between Kong and the Ann, plus some of the most cringe inducing moments in mainstream hollywood (the ice skating scene, the "beautiful" thing, Ann Walking in the middle of a deserted street in New York like some sort of angel, the typing of SKULL Island). Just too many to mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The proper term for that would be cliche, or in this case, more homage, rather than ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 My son would rate this movie a 5, but then again he always jumps to the part when the group is afoot in the jungle, searching for Ann.And then he always stops it when they trap Kong.I've told myself that one of these days I'm going to do my own edit of this ridiculously overblown movie, and streamline it into a tight and solid one. But then I realize that I'd just be turning it into the original, better King Kong, and so I just put THAT dvd in the player instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I don't remember the specifics of the film TOO well, but I think my impression was that the CGI was good, the writing and delivery often rivaled LOTR in the cheese department, and the whole thing was just too darn long. I'll give it 3 stars.I remember the score better because I bought the OST. I like it...I definitely like it. It gets a little repetitive, but other than that flaw, I think it's a very nice effort by Mr. Howard. The themes are quite good, the action music is better than a lot of the JNH action music that I've heard, and there are even some pretty neat atmospheric passages. I'll give the score 4 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Movie: Somewhere between 4 and 4.5. I'll give it the 4.5 because I feel the movie is generally underappreciated (I'm surprised to read more favourable comments above than I'd expected). I absolutely consider the first act not too long; it takes its time, but it's time well invested because it allows us to care for the characters in the end. You could argue that the second act is too long, or rather filled with too much pointless effects action, but the same goes for the original. In the end, the scene with Kong on the ice makes me cry, and considering that it's essentially a giant ape skating in Central Park, that means the film has achieved a lot for me by that point.Score: 4.5. My favourite JNH along with Lady in the Water. The love theme is sublime. The Shore-ish stuff for the finale is the least interesting part of the score for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Movie - I would give it a 4.5 for quality of filmmaking, but a 3.5 for my enjoyment. It was one of those movies that was fine to watch once, but I have no desire to see it again.I didn't notice the score when I watched it and I never bothered listening to it since, so I voted 3 in an attempt to be neutral - I would have only voted in the first question if it were possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 4 and 4I just watched this last night and I agree with most others in that the first hour is too long. The movie is enjoyable and I love the expanded relationship between Kong and Ann over the original, even understanding Kong's back story, (being the last of his kind) but Jack Black is just so mis-cast I just found him more irritating than anything else and unbelievable as Carl Denham.I really liked the various homages to the original through identical scenes and even the music in some parts. My overall favourite part is the entrance of the planes into the story. I like in some scenes where the camera follows the planes in on an attack and you see the whole of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Funny, I've rewatched it just the other day! The rewatch confirmed my first ideas: the film is waaay too long--I like that PJ expanded the scope of the original movie, but I think he overindulged a bit too much just for the sake of being "epic", losing the pure fun of the original story in the process. I would have completely scrapped Jamie Bell's storyline with the black guy and I would probably got rid of most of the slow-motion shots all over the picture. The fx are impressive, even though sometimes rushed in certain spots. Kong's expressivity however is stunning. One of the film's strongest point is Anne Watts' performance. Aside from being such a gorgeous lady, she really got the role with grace and beauty.The score is certainly competent and generally consistent, even though most of it get drowned by sound fx. The main theme is not strong enough imho and it's overused throughout all the first hour and half. I also don't like at all the Thomas Newman-isms in the lyrical cues--they sound really out of place in what is essentially a period movie (this was apparently one of the points where Shore and Jackson had different views). Also, the action cues sounds a bit too generic and too bombastic just for the sake of it.Overall, it's a flawed movie, even though it has more than a thing to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'd like to see a "phantom edit" of this film.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Movie 2, most of it really is beyond ridiculous. But I also find the LOTR films to be totally underwhelming, so you know where I'm coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I really liked the various homages to the original through identical scenes and even the music in some parts. My overall favourite part is the entrance of the planes into the story. I like in some scenes where the camera follows the planes in on an attack and you see the whole of the city.The entire third act is stunning. I love the moments you described, where we just see the whole skyline with the sound dialed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The action on Skull Island is fun, if not a bit too much at times. To me that makes up for all the film's faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Once you get there, it really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The action on Skull Island is fun, if not a bit too much at times. To me that makes up for all the film's faults.Well, the film works more or less because of the two key elements: Naomi Watts and Kong himself. And it's probably the only thing that really needs to work. The other stuff is more or less disposable.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The sight of that giant pink thing going over Andy Serkis' head always makes me squirm.There are many things to enjoy about this film, but writing, performance, and direction, are not three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think the two central performances are superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think everyone is pretty good, Kyle Chandler especially, and Watts and Serkis are brilliant. The writing is fine, as is the direction, it's just the editing that needed attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The movie was pretty good, a bit too long for the movie theater, and I have no desire to ever see it again.I remember nothing of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The film is bloated and indulgent. I suspect that Peter Jackson was given rather too much freedom on this. The replacement score is impressive given the amount of time to compose and record it - I would be very interested to know what the music budget was for that! Shore's score remains one of my holy grails, but I cannot imagine Universal letting it see the light of day in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 One of the film's strongest point is Anne Watts' performance.That would be Naomi Watts playing Ann Darrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 One of the film's strongest point is Anne Watts' performance.That would be Naomi Watts playing Ann Darrow.Doesn't that tell you something about the film, when people cannot remember who played who? John Guillermin rules!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 John Guillermin rules!!!! Watch 'King Kong Lives' and tell me that with a straight face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 John Guillermin rules!!!! Watch 'King Kong Lives' and tell me that with a straight face.Ah, yes, well...actually, I was referring to "The Blue Max", and "The Towerong Inferno". John Guillermin rules!!!! Watch 'King Kong Lives' and tell me that with a straight face.Ah, yes, well...actually, I was referring to "The Blue Max", and "The Towering Inferno". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 John Guillermin rules!!!! Watch 'King Kong Lives' and tell me that with a straight face.Ah, yes, well...actually, I was referring to "The Blue Max", and "The Towerong Inferno". Doesn't that tell you something about the film, when you can't even spell it right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 John Guillermin rules!!!! Watch 'King Kong Lives' and tell me that with a straight face.Ah, yes, well...actually, I was referring to "The Blue Max", and "The Towerong Inferno". Doesn't that tell you something about the film, when you can't even spell it right!Ha, ha, ha! (sonofabitch ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Mostly it was the relationship between Kong and the Ann, plus some of the most cringe inducing moments in mainstream hollywood (the ice skating scene, the "beautiful" thing, Ann Walking in the middle of a deserted street in New York like some sort of angel, the typing of SKULL Island). Just too many to mentionyou clearly have no soul.The ice skating scene is pure movie magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I really mean no offence to those who enjoyed the scene, I really don't, but that scene just made me laugh out loud. it just rubbed me the wrong way. Peter Jackson's cheese is of the worst kind. The LOTR is filled with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I like cheese... Not necessarily Peter Jackson's, however. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I really mean no offence to those who enjoyed the scene, I really don't, but that scene just made me laugh out loud. it just rubbed me the wrong way. Peter Jackson's cheese is of the worst kind. The LOTR is filled with itit's not cheese, it's pure movie magic, one of the scenes that elevates this film, it pinpoints the tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Peter Jackson's cheese is of the worst kind.Heh, not by a long shot. Look to Lucas' prequels for the very top tier of cheese produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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