The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: They are standalone. There's zero continuity between the three. Its a "trilogy" unified by genre and style, not by plot. Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Westerns have never been my thing and spaghetti westerns just strike me as bad filmmaking. Dont be shocked Jerry. Its not like he was an A-list actor back then. And the dubbing....omg The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted April 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2019 The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms Another one of those surprisingly watchable 50's monster movies from Warner Bros., featuring effects by Ray Harryhausen. An atomic bomb test wakes up a huge dinosaur. Unfortunately, nobody believes the only human who saw the monster. Only when strange accidents accumulate, and the beast finally attacks NY the truth is revealed. It's *very* linear but fun - and a blueprint for dozens of other flicks, 'Godzilla' chief among them - and a good example how talented people can make a great movie on a budget. Not quite up there with 'Them!' or 'Black Lagoon' but still a winner. Kasey Kockroach, SteveMc and JoeinAR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The rollercoaster sequence still amazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 hours ago, JoeinAR said: spaghetti westerns just strike me as bad filmmaking. The crudity captures something somehow. It's very unpretentious in one sense, and yet, seems to be very aware in another. I say this primarily of Leone. Other spaghetti westerns indeed leave me unsatisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,652 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Not a fan of spaghetti westerns at all to be honest They may have been bold and subversive at the time but the genre has been so thoroughly milked by pop culture by now. Without that freshness, they just come across as boring, tacky, and thoroughly uncool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 As long as you are able to distance yourself from "pop culture" you'll be fine. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 GB&U is cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I would rather watch Beast from 20000 Fathoms than the good bad and fugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 You don't really like foreign films, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, Stefancos said: You don't really like foreign films, i think. I am indifferent. I love British films. But as I said before spaghetti westerns are bad and have poor production values. I do not like movies set in America filmed elsewhere like that stupid Cold Mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Come back to me... on cold mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 It's the awful, out-of-sync dubbing that detracts from my enjoyment of most Spaghetti westerns. Gives the dialogue an unintentional Brechtian Verfremdungseffekt quality. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: I do not like movies set in America filmed elsewhere like that stupid Cold Mountain. What a dumb thing to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, Stefancos said: What a dumb thing to say No your comment was dumb. Cold Mountain did not look like North Carolina at all. Of course you would feel the same way as if some outdoor film of Holland was actually in another land. 49 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Come back to me... on cold mountain. Doesn't look like NC. I am okay with the movie story. But Romania has a completely different look than the Blue Ridge Mountains or the Pisgah National forrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeinAR said: I do not like movies set in America filmed elsewhere like that stupid Cold Mountain. You have any idea how often this happens in Hollywood films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The Good The Bad And The Ugly was filmed in Spain. Joe’s theory holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Sharky said: It's the awful, out-of-sync dubbing that detracts from my enjoyment of most Spaghetti westerns. Gives the dialogue an unintentional Brechtian Verfremdungseffekt quality. You would love the german dubs then, where they speak thrice as much as in the original (often you could see that the actors aren't even moving their lips). The verfremdungseffekt reaches delirious heights here, when the main dude grossly insults everyone around him for no particular reason. Chen G. and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I think that my liking for these films is more so an enjoyment of Leone's craft and direction rather than a general liking of spaghetti westerns. I haven't seen too many non-Leone ventures, but I don't think I'd like them as much. So while with Leone it happens to be a spaghetti western, it's rather Leone more so than the genre for me. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 10 hours ago, JoeinAR said: I do not like movies set in America filmed elsewhere like that stupid Cold Mountain. The last time I found it really distracting was Hacksaw Ridge, which was really obviously Australia, and not the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,005 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 That movie was shot on a shoe-string budget, though. So of course they couldn't effort going to the US to shoot, nor pass-up the tax benefits provided by the Australian authorities by filming there. Gotta take you hat off to Gibson for making it look the way it does on that amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Most every state is willing to give credits to filmmakers who use their locals. I cannot in anyway believe it was cheaper to send a film crew to Australia rather than to Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,005 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Send a film crew? Gibson is an aussie, and it was a largely aussie crew. It only makes sense, given the budget, that they would shoot in Australia. Beyond the locations, I'd be much more worried about Weaving's accent, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Gibson is American born in Peekskill NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,005 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 But grew up and established himself profesionally in Australia. At any rate, when this movie came out, he was operating out of Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Well locals aside it was great Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Well locals aside it was great Again, Hollywood has a long history of setting movies in locations that don't look anything like the actual place. Seen Casino Royale? Montenegro looks nothing like how it does in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Or true grit with its snow covered mountains. Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,005 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Yeah, don't even get me started on how locations in Kingdom of Heaven measure up to the real ones (most of which are within up to two-hours drive from my house). Do I really care? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Yeah, don't even get me started on how locations in Kingdom of Heaven measure up to the real ones (most of which are within up to two-hours drive from my house). Do I really care? Nah. My point exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,240 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 6 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I think that my liking for these films is more so an enjoyment of Leone's craft and direction rather than a general liking of spaghetti westerns. I haven't seen too many non-Leone ventures, but I don't think I'd like them as much. So while with Leone it happens to be a spaghetti western, it's rather Leone more so than the genre for me. Indeed. And what do I care about the actual budget if the films still *look* more impressive than most other films, old or new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The World is Not Enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Indeed. And what do I care about the actual budget if the films still *look* more impressive than most other films, old or new? Except they look cheap as hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,240 Posted April 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2019 Holko, John, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,207 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 They're not superhero movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 They are not good movies either. They are not Shane or Dodge City and certainly not Stagecoach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Goldfinger The quintessential Bond movie. Featuring one of the coolest guys ever in his prime with an endless supply of quips, absurdly gorgeous women parading about and being spanked, ridiculous gadgets, cool music and a thoroughly despisable impossibly powerful henchman that is so satisfyingly murdered, it makes up for the excessive runtime (a recurring issue with 007 movies). It's perfectly settled in that sweet spot between serious and camp. Holko and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Its outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I also enjoy when Bond forces himself on Pussy Galore. Bond will never be like that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Bond hasn't been like that since the late 70's, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,005 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Ghostbusters II said: Bond forces himself on Pussy Galore More like raped her into being straight. Can you imagine the reaction of the audience, had this been made and screened in 2019? Oh, the horror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, Chen G. said: More like raped her into being straight. It's not emphatically stated Pussy was a lesbian in the movie though. The book ofcourse has 2 lesbians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,005 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It's not emphatically stated Pussy was a lesbian in the movie though. It was the sixties: they couldn't state that any more than Sir David Lean could state T. E. Lawrence was gay. One had to imply it through the film. But with Pussy especially (god that's a wierd phrase to write), there's a ton of coy sixties hints. Her demeanor, the all-female flying troop, the fact that she doesn't instantly fall for Bond ("I'm immune"), etcetra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 It doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I agree, we should judge a person's sexual orientation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The Hunger Games 2. Willow Shields and Jena Malone stood out, but I found the response from the peacekeepers to Katniss' tour accident way too harsh. I know it's supposed to be a terrible regime and all, but these people actively made their subjects rebel. I thought it was all about containing the spark? It's also not quite clear whether this Quarter Quell is a real thing or something Snow just made up to get rid of Katniss: the older people apparently remember it exists while some tributes claim they were never told about it. How hard can it be for the richer kids to look up the charter? Everyone's life seems to revolve around the games there anyway. And then I'm not even talking about the fact that the Panem public have supposedly loved the Hunger Games for 74 years until Katniss finally comes along. Why does it take one 74 years to realise killing teenagers is not okay? Elizabeth Banks also had some weak moments and Katniss spends too much time crying and hyperventilating. The score is very good, except for the overuse of the great music that underscored Katniss' journey to the Capitol in the first movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 6 hours ago, bollemanneke said: The Hunger Games 2. Willow Shields and Jena Malone stood out, but I found the response from the peacekeepers to Katniss' tour accident way too harsh. I know it's supposed to be a terrible regime and all, but these people actively made their subjects rebel. I thought it was all about containing the spark? It's also not quite clear whether this Quarter Quell is a real thing or something Snow just made up to get rid of Katniss: the older people apparently remember it exists while some tributes claim they were never told about it. How hard can it be for the richer kids to look up the charter? Everyone's life seems to revolve around the games there anyway. And then I'm not even talking about the fact that the Panem public have supposedly loved the Hunger Games for 74 years until Katniss finally comes along. Why does it take one 74 years to realise killing teenagers is not okay? Elizabeth Banks also had some weak moments and Katniss spends too much time crying and hyperventilating. The score is very good, except for the overuse of the great music that underscored Katniss' journey to the Capitol in the first movie. Why does oppression still exist. Your question is seriously naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The Company You Keep (2012) A distracting concatenation of famous faces. But I liked Shia LaBeouf. Somehow his performance reminded me a lot of how Dustin Hoffman played the role of Carl Bernstein in All The President's Men. 3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 9 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Why does oppression still exist. Your question is seriously naive. That's not what I meant. I mean the movie gives the impression that everyone is completely 'happy' with the Capitol until Katniss makes a stand. The novel apparently mentions refugees who failed to overthrow the system, the movie doesn't. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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