crocodile 8,020 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 It's impossible to make a good film without solid producers. It's the person that gives director or his tools and production values largely depend how well they're doing their job.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Funnily enough to this day the people responsible for casting do not have their own Academy Award. Directors' Guild is against it as they claim casting is the director's prerogative and job but I would dare say there are quite a few departments in movie making that demand both the professional of that area and the director making decisions together. Casting is a huge part of any given movie's success so I find it rather odd that the people behind selecting appropriate actors and supervising such a process are not awarded. Oh and Directors' Guild also forbid the use of the term Casting Director for the above reasons. A film can have only one director they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yes!And there should also be an Oscar for Best Catering, because if it wasn't for it, the film crew would die from starvation, so obviously, catering is a huge part of any given movie's success, as well. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 What about the Oscar for Best Extra? You know how heard those people work, for almost no recognition. THAT'S the real injustice of big ol' Hollywood at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Funnily enough to this day the people responsible for casting do not have their own Academy Award. Directors' Guild is against it as they claim casting is the director's prerogative and job but I would dare say there are quite a few departments in movie making that demand both the professional of that area and the director making decisions together. Casting is a huge part of any given movie's success so I find it rather odd that the people behind selecting appropriate actors and supervising such a process are not awarded. Oh and Directors' Guild also forbid the use of the term Casting Director for the above reasons. A film can have only one director they say.What about the Director Of Photography? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Funnily enough to this day the people responsible for casting do not have their own Academy Award. Directors' Guild is against it as they claim casting is the director's prerogative and job but I would dare say there are quite a few departments in movie making that demand both the professional of that area and the director making decisions together. Casting is a huge part of any given movie's success so I find it rather odd that the people behind selecting appropriate actors and supervising such a process are not awarded. Oh and Directors' Guild also forbid the use of the term Casting Director for the above reasons. A film can have only one director they say.What about the Director Of Photography? Well obviously he is a proper director. Casting director is a marionette of the movie's actual director, whom he pulls to and fro and commands to bring him the best cast possible from main players to the most insignificant extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 So is there confirmation that the "Silent Space Version" of Gravity is the exact same movie with the score removed? Or is it still not known?Is the blu ray from whatever country gets that bonus feature out yet?UPDATE: All I can find online is this: A quick update from WBHE: "Due to production timing the [previously announced] 'Gravity Silent Space' feature will not be on the 'Gravity' disc."So maybe the feature was removed from all county's BD sets, and not just the US BD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yes!And there should also be an Oscar for Best Catering, because if it wasn't for it, the film crew would die from starvation, so obviously, catering is a huge part of any given movie's success, as well.What about the Oscar for Best Extra? You know how heard those people work, for almost no recognition. THAT'S the real injustice of big ol' Hollywood at the moment.Time for some angry petitions addressed to the Academy! These injustices will not stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 So is there confirmation that the "Silent Space Version" of Gravity is the exact same movie with the score removed? Or is it still not known?Is the blu ray from whatever country gets that bonus feature out yet?UPDATE: All I can find online is this: A quick update from WBHE: "Due to production timing the [previously announced] 'Gravity Silent Space' feature will not be on the 'Gravity' disc."So maybe the feature was removed from all county's BD sets, and not just the US BD?No one knows?Bummer, I really wanted to hear a score-free version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 All I can tell you is that it's not on the German standard blu ray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Alternate scene (redefines entire movie): Brónach and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hehe, that is lolific. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Best Superman movie since II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Meet the creator of the video:http://krishnabalashenoi.com/about/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 The version of Gravity with the score taken out is finally coming out on Tuesday March 31sthttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PGHUJOO/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I will watch the shit out of that version of the film.Haven't seen the movie since I saw it in IMAX opening weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I'd watch a version without that crappy score. Goes to show how magnificant they thought its Oscar winning score was by including a track without it. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 I've seen plenty of films that I REALLY enjoyed, but didn't happen to like the score. There's nothing wrong with that really, I'll still love the film and just never buy the score. No biggie. But with Gravity, I felt the score was SO inappropriate for the film, it actually made the film lose points. Without that score, the film can only be better. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Perhaps somebody here could edit together an "If John Williams Scored Gravity" video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 That's the thing. Even if John Williams or Jerry Goldsmitih or whoever had written some amazing film score that I loved listening to on CD, it still would hurt the film if as much of it was used in the final cut as Price's score was. The film simply didn't need a lot score in it, and I'm surprised Cuaron thought it did. Can't wait to see the new version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Cuaron initially didn't, and that's probably why this version even exists. He conceived it as a silent film, and Guillermo Del Toro convinced him to make this huge blockbuster epic style thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 This will soon become common practice in a world full of pseudo nihilistic movie goers who want their entertainment to be more realistic and relatable. By omitting scores from your favourite flicks like Star Wars, ET and Indiana Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Without that score, the film can only be better. I agree ... but I don't think it's going to save the film for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 First review is up for the Silent Space version Quote Disregard that last sentence if you opt for this new Diamond Luxe Edition's "Silent Space" mode, which removes just about all of that pesky Oscar-winning music. It's a neat experiment that changes a few moments dramatically...but depending on how many times you've seen the "official version" (which director Alfonso Cuaron seems to prefer in his filmed introduction to this mode), the differences can be pretty jarring. Gravity features less music than you think...but a handful of moments benefit from its absence, such as the "fetal position" scene (below) and Stone's post-landing walk. Others don't fare as well: the initial debris strike isn't nearly as terrifying this time around, and a few stray jumps between background noise and silence make other scenes feel unfinished…which they are, technically. Either way, this "Silent Space" mode is a welcome experience for interested viewers, but Warner Bros. dropped the ball by only including a lossy Dolby Digital 5.1 mix during this feature. Luckily, the blow is softened by new Atmos and TrueHD 7.1 audio options during the theatrical version, as well as three new extras and slick packaging. The new Blu Ray drops tomorrow, and you can get it for $18.49 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PGHUJOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 This would be a great excuse to rescore this for myself, if I had enjoyed it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Urgh...Pedantic twaddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 This would be a great excuse to rescore this for myself, if I had enjoyed it in the first place.I would love to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 He would do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Even with two discs at their disposal, WB only included the Silent Space version as a lossy 5.1 mix, not a lossless one. Lame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Two little previews of the new BD special features https://www.yahoo.com/movies/watch-silent-gravity-if-you-dare-lack-of-115131111707.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 First clip of the Silent Space versionhttps://www.facebook.com/gravitymovie/posts/872379256175289 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Meh, while it's a different special feature, it's giving this place way too much room to trash Price's score, as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 You love it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 I've said it before and I'll say it again : PRICE'S score isn't a problem, having ANY score is the problem - in certain scenes, at least. Maybe I'll like this version better, maybe I won't - Dunno until I see it. But I am very curious about it, as I am curious about seeing the movie again in general, since I loved it my one viewing in the theater in IMAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 My only real issue with the score, which went largely unnoticed by me except for the debris field scene, was the ending. It was a bit much and overwrought. It seemed out of place. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Agreed, the ending cue is the loudest and most out place one bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Ditto that.This would be a great excuse to rescore this for myself, if I had enjoyed it in the first place.That actually sounds like fun. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 On 3/30/2015 at 0:51 PM, Jay said: First review is up for the Silent Space version The new Blu Ray drops tomorrow, and you can get it for $18.49 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PGHUJOO How I wish I had bought it when it came out. WB let it go OOP and now it fetches $60 minimum on the secondary market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Coincidentally I was looking for this on Amazon last week and couldn't find it. Didn't realize it was OOP. All the same, thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I was planning to buy this eventually as well. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 I found it on Amazon Canada for about fifteen bucks https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00PTGEUZQ/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 On 3/6/2015 at 6:37 PM, Jay said: The version of Gravity with the score taken out is finally coming out on Tuesday March 31st http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PGHUJOO/ On 3/30/2015 at 12:51 PM, Jay said: First review is up for the Silent Space version The new Blu Ray drops tomorrow, and you can get it for $18.49 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PGHUJOO On 7/28/2016 at 3:24 PM, Jay said: How I wish I had bought it when it came out. WB let it go OOP and now it fetches $60 minimum on the secondary market On 7/29/2016 at 12:29 AM, nightscape94 said: Coincidentally I was looking for this on Amazon last week and couldn't find it. Didn't realize it was OOP. All the same, thanks for the link. On 7/29/2016 at 5:32 AM, Koray Savas said: I was planning to buy this eventually as well. Oh well. On 7/30/2016 at 2:59 PM, Jay said: I found it on Amazon Canada for about fifteen bucks https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00PTGEUZQ/ Well well well. It took me 5 years (!), but I finally watched it! By that, I mean the Silent Space version of Gravity on the Blu Ray I picked up. I originally saw the film in theaters (in IMAX) and LOVED It, it was one of my favorite films of that year. But I had not seen it again, until the other weekend when I finally opened up my Diamond Luxe Edition blu ray and watched the Silent Space version of the film. I really liked the film all over again! The special effects are still largely fantastic, only really losing points for really obvious CGI tethers for space walks. But all the other special effects are flawless! The story is still good, Bullock and Clooney are still good, it's a good, well crafted flick. The Silent Space version is, unquestionable for me now, the better audio mix of the film. Steven Price's score distracted more than it accentuated originally, especially in some key scenes like when Bullock and Clooney are admiring the silence of space (ironically enough), and her earth-walk at the end. Now every scene has more power as you are more with Bullock the entire time, only hearing what she would hear, and not being told how to feel about what you're watching. Interestingly, Price's score isn't entirely removed; there are two short stinger cues (one when she has to enter an airlock in time before being ripped apart, and another moment I can't recall now) that were left in, which I found interesting. I wonder if it was an oversight, or Cuaron felt the tension was lost by not increasing the tension in those moments. Anyway, I think this version is hard to track down these days, as posts on this forum page indicate, but I am glad I found one and finally watched it, because it made a great film even greater. Drawgoon and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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