Balahkay 627 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 15 hours ago, Drax said: Emmerich will choose Kloser und Wanker again... uh, oh right. Kathleen calls the shots! Exactly. People seem to be forgetting that Kennedy publicly announced Williams involvement for the ENTIRE trilogy over two years ago. Plus, I believe Abrams is a producer and he would no doubt push for Williams return. If Williams doesn't score Episode VIII, then it's because he doesn't want to. However, it seems obvious Williams isn't retiring, yet. Was there any doubt Williams would score TPM, AOTC and ROTS? Or were those announcements made very early on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't remember about announcements and such from back then, but during that time Williams was still a prolific working film composer doing 2-4 films a year every year for a variety of directors. Since 2000 Williams has only scored films for Spielberg, Star Wars and Harry Potter with rare exceptions when he liked the books (Memoirs and Book Thief), so everything's different now than it was then. Add to the fact that he's 83, has a pacemaker, etc, the fact that he didn't score Spielberg's latest, etc means each new film is always a question until the pencil has begun moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 On 12/28/2015 at 4:12 PM, Jay said: You know, I was just thinking "maybe Disney will move Episode 8 to December 2017, since Episode 7 is doing so well in December of this year). But then I remembered that Cameron has Avatar 2 slotted for December 2017, so they'd be competing for IMAX space. There's one factor that could delay Avatar 2... co-star Zoe Saldana. The next film on her platter is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, which starts up in two months. Then she'll film the Avatar sequels, which I doubt will make the December '17 date. I don't care how quick and time-efficient Cameron is, you can't film three films back-to-back in several months. (Plus she'll need to do promotional duties for Star Trek Beyond too.) If Fox can't make the December 2017 date for Avatar 2, I'm willing to bet Disney will move Episode VIII to that date. Forget the 40th anniversary of the original film, Disney will make December into Star Wars month. When you have a movie like TFA making THAT much money at the end of the year, might as well keep that weekend and hope it pays off for subsequent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Wasn't she signed up for the Avatar sequels before anything else? Dont actors usually have to adjust their schedules to projects that they are already contracted for? So if a shooting schedule was planned and agrees upon on the Avatar films beforehand then anything she signed up for after would have to be done outside that schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I knew Matt C would show up eventually to respond to this conversation thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 who is Rian Johnson? what has he directed that he lands such a top job. omg this idiot directed Looper, one of the worst movies of this decade. and he's done nothing in 5 years. jeez, this does not bode well. and to his idiot parents, it's spelled Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Looper's great! His work on Breaking Bad was great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 4 hours ago, Jay said: Looper's great! No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Looper was garbage said french style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It was okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It was moronic. But I liked his work on BB. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Ozymandias is one of the finest pieces of filmed entertainment of the 21st century Mockiteur and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Maybe Williams will say to Kathleen "I can't work with this man!" crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 He'll say: "We need a better director" And Kennedy will say: "I know, but they're all dead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 "Life's too short to waste on you!" Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That'd be ten times worse than what Fincher did on Alien Cubed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heidl 358 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 On 29.12.2015 at 11:44 AM, BloodBoal said: Was just wondering about something today: do people think Ren will keep his helmet in Episode VIII (and possibly IX), now that they have revealed his face in Episode VII? Technically, there should be no reason in-film for the character to abandon it (he's still a Vader fanboy at the end of the film, and I'm guessing most (all?) First Order members don't know what he looks like beneath the helmet, so he'd want to keep it), but the filmmaking crew may think: "OK, now that the cat is out of the bag, there's no need to keep the helmet". I'd personally prefer for him to keep it, as he looks more menacing with it (even if the mystery surrounding him is now gone), but I'm not convinced he will. Didn't Kylo drop his helmet when he was facing Han? He was certainly not wearing it during the final battle and - looking at all the doomsday action around him - I doubt there was time left to pick it up before fleeing the planet. So maybe we're up for an updated mask in EP VIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sort of like in the Predator movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Or the OT, where Vader's suit changed in every film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I heard that and was simply baffled. Like, who notices these things? They look the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 You can certainly pinpoint several differences, but the overall effect is still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Just confirming that yes, Kylo Ren drops his helmet on the bridge and never picks it back up. So we will either be seeing a new helmet or no helmet in the next film. I'm hoping for the former, preferably with the same fantastic design. I really wonder why they didn't wait to unmask him till the bridge scene. I almost wonder if that was the original intent but they found that Rey's interrogation scene didn't work without his face visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Who says there is only one helmet? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Who is to say a lacky didn't pick it up for him before the planet exploded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 He loses the helmet and now uses the melted Vader helmet. It is the only way! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 52 minutes ago, Jay said: Who is to say a lacky didn't pick it up for him before the planet exploded? Well Chewie pretty much blew the hell out of that place.... But Ofcourse Ren is gonna have more helmets. The First Order must have 3D printers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 hours ago, crocodile said: Who says there is only one helmet? Karol Just the Tuesday helmet was destroyed, then? That's going to throw a monkey hydrospanner into the cleaning schedule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Koray Savas said: He loses the helmet and now uses the melted Vader helmet. It is the only way! That would be a cool way to go. Like if Luke faces up to Ren and he's wearing Vader's mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Will the Chewie/Maz relationship be explored more in this film? Between them, Finn/Poe, and Rey/TBA (Kylo?) Williams will have to write at least 3 love themes for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I can see them going all three films without giving Rey a love interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 How do you pronounce "Rian"? I've been saying "Ree-ann", but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 It's just a funky way to spell Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I sincerely hope they don't give Rey any romance stories. Of course romance (if done well) doesn't weaken a female character, but I can't be bothered with yet another female lead that instead of focusing on her power, her history and her future, they just stick her in a love triangle or couple. "May the force be with you, my Rey of sunshine." "No, may the force be with you." "No, you hang up first." "No, you hang up first." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: I sincerely hope they don't give Rey any romance stories. Of course romance (if done well) doesn't weaken a female character, but atleast she wont be a mary-sue anymore. lolz amiright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: I sincerely hope they don't give Rey any romance stories. Of course romance (if done well) doesn't weaken a female character, This is precisely why I wouldn't want romance stories with Rey. The line between a well done romance and a cheap sexist one is narrow, and I'm not sure they could pull that off, especially considering each movie is being written by a different author, which increases the possibility of mishandling this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I think this new trilogy is basically like the original trilogy in its creative process. Disney have obviously mapped out their story and what they intend etc (like Lucas) and the writers for each film can write their own film, but within the constraints of what Disney have planned. Like Kasdan did with Empire and Jedi. Of course Disney, perhaps Abrams, Kasdan and Kennedy have ensured a through-story for 3 films and that the writers of Ep8 and 9 have to follow, but they have freedom in almost everything accept that main story, like all dialogue, action, settings etc. But with the first film clearly setting up huge story threads to carry on, like who is Rey? Who is Snoke? What has Luke been up to? Etc. Those key plot points are already written. I guess a good way of describing it would be that this new trilogy is like a road trip to a destination already decided, but they've brought people in to decide what points of interest we should visit along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 John Williams FUCK YEAH! #StefanIsDrunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 1/8/2016 at 4:10 AM, crumbs said: I heard that and was simply baffled. Like, who notices these things? They look the same! This is what I say when people here say the main title music sounds different between the 7 films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 It does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Not noticeably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Seriously? The prequels use the same recording. But the other ones are distinctly different performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I haven't read a single page of this thread and will only care when JW is announced as composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hopefully he'll be announced within the next couple of months. I imagine they'll make some new cast announcements, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Star Wars: Episode VIII is ‘Much Darker’ in Tone, Says John Boyega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Not surprising. I'm guessing it will be more akin to TESB. Though I truly hope they have some new story elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I think we can safely say there will be plenty of new story elements with Johnson at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I agree, and they can't risk the success of the trilogy by pulling another rehash. People will be expecting a new story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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