mstrox 6,651 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I wonder if their "low profile" on Marvel is more of a contractual thing from the buyout. They certainly would have nothing to lose from stamping their little castle on the comics and movies, and it's not like people aren't aware that Disney owns the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Marvel is frankly too adult for the main Disney "brand" Adding the Disney logo to Marvel comics and movies would hurt more than it would help Star Wars is way more family friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 That is my guess too.Remember the old Buena Vista banner that Disney used for a lot of their movies in the 80's, 90's and probably the 2000's?Like Pretty Woman, which is a Disney movie about a hooker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Miramax, and Dimension are the subsidiaries of Disney that make adult films (not that kind of adult films). Pretty Woman, Crimson Tide, The Rock, Royal Tennenbaums, The Sixth Sense, Scream, Pulp Fiction, etc, etc. Buena Vista was the subsidiary that distributed all the films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Hmmm, no it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Bueno Vista was the subsidiary that distributes all the filmsBuenA! Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I never saw the Buena vista white castle logo with blue background in any adult film...BTW the books feature the word 'Disney' in tipical disney font. No castle or more developed logo. it is like this: Disney | Lucasfilm (lucasfilm is the typical logo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Read the intro then History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buena_Vista_Distribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I don't think it's anything like as bad as most of you are saying. That said, I'm unfamiliar with the ESB end credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,014 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Just why didn't anyone ask Williams to re-adjust this piece (or record something new) while they're actually in the middle of writing a friggin Star Wars score is beyond me.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'm unfamiliar with the ESB end credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I kinda like it! *Slowly backs away*https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/586581557600772096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I don't care about any of this. Which is why it'll probably go to 6 pages minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Just why didn't anyone ask Williams to re-adjust this piece (or record something new) while they're actually in the middle of writing a friggin Star Wars score is beyond me.KarolI'm assuming they did (or will) record something new. Why it hasn't been done, yet, or used in the collection already is another question. It's certainly puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yea, I already covered this thought processThat is the most annoying part - Disney bought Lucasfilm 30 months ago, and in all that time this is the best edit they came up with to replace the Lucasfilm logo music on the films?I have to imagine that John Williams will compose a Lucasfilm Fanfare for Episode 7, and that will retroactively be added to these digital releases once it's recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'm working on my own edit. Give me a day or two and I'll post the one I envisioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Since they went this route of using existing material, I'm trying to think of what would have been a better option. Possibly a short variation of the Force theme?Yea, I already covered this thought processThat is the most annoying part - Disney bought Lucasfilm 30 months ago, and in all that time this is the best edit they came up with to replace the Lucasfilm logo music on the films?I have to imagine that John Williams will compose a Lucasfilm Fanfare for Episode 7, and that will retroactively be added to these digital releases once it's recorded.If it's already written and recorded, it possibly could have presented a nice surprise teaser of the score... aside from the teaser music, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I don't think it's anything like as bad as most of you are saying. That said, I'm unfamiliar with the ESB end credits.There's a whole world of wtf in that quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 But that's not the same as being broke. When your favorite sports player is traded to a different team and has to start wearing their colors, is he broke?Albert Pujols is dead to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Whatever it is it needs to be in Bb major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If there is going to be a new theme replacing the Fox Fanfare they are not gonna introduce it with the digital releases of the old films, obviously.The "new" and "improved" Star Wars will begin in December! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 We'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 You really believe there won't be a new logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxman717 22 Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Since they went this route of using existing material, I'm trying to think of what would have been a better option. Possibly a short variation of the Force theme?Yes, I agree ---- possibly a variation on Binary Sunset ---- it is not a fanfare like the Fox fanfare, but it could provide a magical "setting of the stage" sound like Disney usually does with its "When you Wish Upon a Star" intro music for all its films. Also, many trailers in the past have used the Force theme / Binary Sunset music during the opening seconds as the Lucasfilm logo is displayed, prior to showing the main trailer material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I don't think it's anything like as bad as most of you are saying. That said, I'm unfamiliar with the ESB end credits.There's a whole world of wtf in that quote.I'm not into Star Wars music at all. I realize this is shocking to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 But most people who have visited this forum would have listened to them at least once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I think the idea (of the new fanfare) is ok. The execution is very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yea, while I don't see the point of removing the Fox logo and its Afred Newman music, I understand why Disney wants to do it.I'm fine with movies opening directly with the Lucasfilm logo, but they should have original music under that logo, or at least well edited John Williams Star Wars music, or silence. This is a bad edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If they had made some kind of deal with FOX they could have reatined the logo, like in some paramount marvel films in production while disney bought marvel.But they must not have had an agreement, hence the total removal of the logo from the films totally owned and sold by lucasfilm, and the permanency of it in SW which is owned by Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 They must have made some deal, since all 6 films are released at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yea, while I don't see the point of removing the Fox logo and its Afred Newman music, I understand why Disney wants to do it.I wonder. Is it that they want to do it? Or could it be that they HAVE to do it? Perhaps it's not just a matter of Disney not wanting a "foreign" logo in their films, but rather Fox not wanting someone else to use their logo?Aside from the lousy execution though, the Fox fanfare really shouldn't be removed from these films. It is an integral part of the Star Wars fabric - no matter if it's intentional or by accident that the main titles are in the same key, the fanfare, followed by that pause (!) followed by the main title form an organic whole that really shouldn't be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The could have used the opening bars of the alternate Vader's Funeral piece. I think that would fit the logo quite well, kind of like how a sombre version of Giacchino's theme appears on the logos of the recent Star Trek films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brown 91 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I like it. Can I pay 99 cents and download it on iToonz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 It is an integral part of the Star Wars fabricNot anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Bad music edits are also an integral part of the Star Wars fabric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 True! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Look on the bright side, at least they didn't use Duel of the Fates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Beginning of the movie I reckon a modified/SW themed cg Disney logo will play with the first few recognisable bars of When you Wish Upon a Blah before sequing nicely into either the Force theme, Luke's, or the Rebel Fanfare.That's what'll happen. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,128 Posted April 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2015 Okay, Quint actually came close to what I envisioned. Here's what I threw together. I probably spent as much time on it as Disney did. All the elements used are property of Disney, so they wouldn't have to use anything from Fox to put this together. If I'm being entirely truthful, I'm putting this up tongue in cheek, but I think something along these lines could be really fun. Enjoy! Omen II, Cerebral Cortex, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 It says I have to sign in to see the video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 It's private. You need to be allowed to see the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Crap, lemme re up it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 This is the best news since 1977. I've always wanted that Fox logo purged. Not only is it a terrible news network, but having that logo is a foreign object that disturbs George's vision.He cannot represent himself as truly independent by having that imperialistic and fascistic Fox logo. Having Lucasfilm being owned by Disney helps convey his independence as an artist. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 LMAO, Hedji.The official version is just terrible.Does Fox no longer have the distribution rights for the original films? Is that why the logo has been removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Fox has the first film only. So, yeah, Disney wants to mark their territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Crap, lemme re up it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Remember the last time Williams integrated When You Wish Upon A Star into a score? Yep, that worked out pretty well. He'll do something similar here and segue into a rendition of the Force/Luke's/Main Title theme (ala the Universal logo with the segue into ET's theme.)It'll be used on every Star Wars film from here on, so I'd expect something special from the maestro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Williams will have the last laugh against the Newmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Ugh, yeah, no offense to whoever edited this fanfare, but it's pretty awful. Fortunately, I strongly suspect that it's a temporary measure; Williams will probably be tapped to pen and record something original (albeit similar in approach). I'll always miss the Fox logo music, but hopefully whatever permanently replaces it will be pretty sweet. And as for Disney music making a cameo...I highly doubt it. There's plenty of overlap between Star Wars fans and Disney fans, but Star Wars is still ultimately its own thing, and Disney knows it. I think the Marvel comparisons are very apt. It'll be a similar approach that doesn't overemphasize Disney's ownership. EDIT: For clarification, this post was in reference to the actual video from the OP, not the parody Disney video, which is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I'd prefer if the new opening was independent of any thematic material, such as the Force theme or Wish Upon A Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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