Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Which was first seen in Episode IV, not the Prequels!TPM is the fourth movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I can't wait to hear John Williams' HK-47 theme!Sarcastic Response: Yes, it'll be the first theme he's written for a droid, you know. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Which was first seen in Episode IV, not the Prequels!TPM is the fourth movie!Yes, but an episode number can be whatever it wants to be. Star Wars 4 does not need to be Episode IV. Though calling it the fourth movie does ignore some Ewok movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Ewoks: The Battle for Endor is canon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't understand the discussion. Every story officially licensed as Star Wars is canon. Why wouldn't it? Because people don't like it? Because it contradicts something? By that logic, Episode III shouldn't be canon either.These films are made to give Disney some pieces of the Star Wars pie. There's no artistic reason to make them, there's no historic reason to make them, the demand wasn't really enormous - the Star Wars saga, no matter how it turned out, was finished with Episode III. Leave the original cast the fuck alone.So, who does really care about canon except the fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't understand the discussion. Every story officially licensed as Star Wars is canon. Why wouldn't it? Because people don't like it? Because it contradicts something? By that logic, Episode III shouldn't be canon either.Only Episode III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Because it contradicts the most stuff in the OT I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 A New Hope is no longer canon according to the Prequels, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't understand the discussion. Every story officially licensed as Star Wars is canon. Why wouldn't it? Because people don't like it? Because it contradicts something? By that logic, Episode III shouldn't be canon either.Go back under your rock. Or get up to speed. http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 No thank you.I don't understand the discussion. Every story officially licensed as Star Wars is canon. Why wouldn't it? Because people don't like it? Because it contradicts something? By that logic, Episode III shouldn't be canon either.Only Episode III?Just an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brown 91 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Ewoks: The Battle for Endor is canonThat's my favorite STAR WARS film.Does anyone else think that this may be the last STAR WARS flick that Williams committs to? I get the feeling that he stepped in to introduce the new series, but will hand the baton off to another composer after this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Watched an interview from Celebration with Daisy Ridley and John Boyega and they both confirmed that the prequel films served as their introduction to Star Wars before the OT. I kinda forgot that it was possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Watched an interview from Celebration with Daisy Ridley and John Boyega and they both confirmed that the prequel films served as their introduction to Star Wars before the OT. I kinda forgot that it was possible. Eh, who cares? All that matters is whether or not their acting is good. If this were J. Jabrams though, it would be a different story.Mr. Brown, on 20 Apr 2015 - 8:39 PM, said:Does anyone else think that this may be the last STAR WARS flick that Williams committs to? I get the feeling that he stepped in to introduce the new series, but will hand the baton off to another composer after this one.Probably, unfortunately. Hopefully the new identities for TFA will be strong and properly incorporated by the new composers into the sequel scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Which was first seen in Episode IV, not the Prequels!TPM is the fourth movie!Yes, but an episode number can be whatever it wants to be. Star Wars 4 does not need to be Episode IV.Though calling it the fourth movie does ignore some Ewok movies.They were tele movies so they don't count. But I don't understand why they're not canon since they don't contradict any of the movies.And Star Wars has no "Episode IV". At least not the copy I watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well, I understand. I'm OK with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 How the Lucasfilm Story Group Figures Out the Star Wars CanonEventually, the panel turned to fan questions, and the fans sure did have some questions. Much of them were centered on Expanded Universe characters they knew and loved as well as The Old Republic. On those topics, the Story Group said that while the Expanded Universe is now Legends and has been wiped clean, they do have plans to reboot or reintroduce characters from that world in the canon. How, when and who was not mentioned, of course. (Screams of “Thrawn!” and “Mara Jade” did ring from the crowd).KABOOM!I think the important stuff they wanted to wipe were the events of the movie characters. It's a lot of baggage to go into a new movie with, that Luke had married Mara Jade who died, and had a kid, and Han and Leia had three kids, one of whom turned evil, and Leia ruled an organization called The New Republic, and there was an enormous invasion from outside the galaxy that tested their might, and Chewbacca got smashed to death by a moon, and Lando gallavanted around the galaxy in an organic space cruiser with Lobot for a little bit, etc etc etc. There's no reasonable way to catch people up, even just to the bare bones, of that story, and it would be extremely difficult to introduce all of the pertinent characters organically.They've already worked some of the "Legends" stuff into the current canon. The most recent that I can think of is in Marvel's "Kanan: The Last Padawan #1" (which is excellent, by the way) - references events of the book Shatterpoint, and issues of Dark Horse's "Republic" comics in its discussion of Kanan's master, Depa Billaba.Minor events and characters that aren't likely to stand in the way of the film story will slowly become "canonized," but if they ever reintroduce Mara Jade or Grand Admiral Thrawn, it would basically be like introducing a new character with a familiar name. Mara Jade won't carry the baggage that came with that character, for instance - her relationship or lack thereof with Luke will be different, and my guess would be that if she were introduced, the idea of an "Emperor's Hand" wouldn't be on the table, and she would fall in the class of "Inquisitor" that was created for Rebels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wait... The EU actually contains a story where the Galaxy is invaded by people from ANOTHER GALAXY? That sounds really dumb. Like it crosses the line from space opera fantasy to pure scifi. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wait... The EU actually contains a story where the Galaxy is invaded by people from ANOTHER GALAXY? That sounds really dumb. Like it crosses the line from space opera fantasy to pure scifi.Not just a story: NINETEEN STORIES.http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_New_Jedi_Order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wow. That sounds really silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am pleased to announce that it is now Bespin and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am pleased to announce that it always been an absolute load of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wait... The EU actually contains a story where the Galaxy is invaded by people from ANOTHER GALAXY? That sounds really dumb. Like it crosses the line from space opera fantasy to pure scifi.It's not like that.The aliens were part of the galaxy in the beggining, but their homeworld, who was (dont ask me how) sentient, exiled them because they were becoming bad, and they wandered outside the galaxy for many years in big ships, cutting all ties with the galaxy.ESB's finale takes place outside the galaxy, anyway.Mmm sounds good they are going to implement some parts of the old EU into the new canon.I would really love if they hired Zahn and other writers of the best stories to rewrite their best works according to new canon, to fill in this 30 year gap between VI and VII.But really, if Leia and Han are not married (i can totally see that coming)...and none of them have any kids...it is going to be a letdown. NO worse that the inconsistencies the prequels created for the OT.Luke i have no hope for him whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I would imagine that either Luke or Leia has a kid - this is implied by the voiceover in the new teaser, at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I hope so.Did anyone notice the small child-sized cat-like alien that gives anakin's lightsaber to leia in the trailer?I'm saying because i'm reading reviews that think that is daisy ridley's character giving the saber to her...and she is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Did anyone notice the small child-sized cat-like alien that gives anakin's lightsaber to leia in the trailer?This could be a person sitting or kneeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought the person was kneeling. Doesn't mean it's not an alien, but my impression was that somebody was kneeling and handing a lightsaber to (given the dialogue over it) Leia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Timestamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Did anyone notice the small child-sized cat-like alien that gives anakin's lightsaber to leia in the trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The hands didn't look young enough to be Disney Ridley's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought the person was kneeling. Doesn't mean it's not an alien, but my impression was that somebody was kneeling and handing a lightsaber to (given the dialogue over it) LeiaWhy does everyone think that Leia is the one receiving the lightsaber? To me, it looks like it's Leia giving it to someone (Ridley's character?).Or someone is giving it to Leia.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Guess the teaser is doing a good job of teasing information, since apparently none of us know what's going on! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Ridley's character is the one that find old objects and put them on ebay, is that right?The Vader's Helmet, Anakin's lightsaber, old Han Solo's underwears, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Timestamp?You can barely see it at the top right corner.It's right when the shot fades in so it's easy to miss. And yeah, I would agree with others that it looks more like Leia than Rey that's receiving the lightsaber, judging by the robe and the rings on her fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Leia will be kicking ass and take names! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It is leia receiving it. Its and old woman, and Luke's voice over says that there must be a Leia in that shot.The other is an alien. (she may be kneeling, but i think the hands are very small for a normal sized humanoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Isn't the costume the same colour of the costume of the woman running from the explosion later in the trailer though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Hard to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Vader helmet, Luke with R2, and Leia all coincide with the voice over from Jedi. Pretty clear, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 You're all jumping to such strong conclusions based on conjecture and assumptions. It's so cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Vadar helmet, Luke with R2, and Leia all coincide with the voice over from Jedi. Pretty clear, no? Yeah, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Its a JJ teaser, obviously designed to not give anything away.Remember the Into Darkness one, where it looked like the Enterprise crashed into Starfleet Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,349 Posted April 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2015 Vadar helmetHello John Williams, you have been revealed Sharkissimo, DarthDementous and Arpy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Box-office analysts say that 'The Force Awakens' could rake in nearly $540 million worldwide on opening weekend; could hit $2 billion 'if it's really good'Goes to show a franchise like "Star Wars" can open gangbusters outside of summer. No coincidence Disney is releasing Episode VII on that same date Avatar did back in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Vadar helmetHello John Williams, you have been revealed ...I don't think I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 It means that John Williams spells Vader wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Isn't the costume the same colour of the costume of the woman running from the explosion later in the trailer though?Hard to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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