Josh500 1,615 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 On the surface, they are two very different movies, yes. But the scores--their texture, their emotional impact, their quality--are rather similar, in my opinion, both being very recent John Williams scores. So which do you personally like better? And why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,378 Posted August 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2017 BFG, though both scores are nice and both films are fine The BFG is more a fun and unique film; The Book Thief is a more standard film. The BFG score has more heart in it, the Book Thief score is more depressing Josh500, Will, crumbs and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, Jay said: The BFG is more a fun and unique film; The Book Thief is a more standard film. I have a confession to make. I've listened to the score of BFG and I think it's OK, but I haven't seen the movie yet. Oh, I started watching it but I just couldn't finish it. A first for me with a Spielberg flick. I thought it was that bad. But one of these days I'm gonna force myself to watch it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Both films and scores are deeply flawed, IMO. But if I had to choose one, I'd go for THE BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Comparatively very weak Williams scores - I tend to say The Book Thief for score. As film The Book Thief is okaaaay and The BFG is fine - so I'll go with The BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Wow, I didn't realize The BFG is so popular here (at least compared with Book Thief). I really gotta watch the movie. But yeah, the main theme is charming enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Score: The Book Thief by a hair. While I don't like anything in it as much as "Finale" or the first minute or so of "Sophie and the BFG" it has a better main theme and less bumbling comedic music. It also feels like less of a missed opportunity than The BFG (a disappointing score in a genre Williams usually excels in). That being said, the orchestrations/recording of The BFG are far superior to the less ornate TBT Film: The BFG wins this one fairly easily. It aims to be a nice, quaint small scale children's film and suceeds. The Book Thief is dour, artificial, and occassionally quite cringeworthy (the Apple logo in the final shot, some of the narration, the German accents) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: quite cringeworthy (the Apple logo in the final shot You thought so too? lol I thought the movie wasn't bad, but yeah, that final shot of Apple well-nigh ruined it for me. I mean, seriously WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The Book Thief for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Book Thief all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The Book Thief was so depressingly ordinary in all respects: The BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, publicist said: The Book Thief was so depressingly ordinary in all respects: The BFG. And the BFG isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Nah. This was innocuous but fun (t me). It also had some wonderful fairy tale sequences. Though both signalize an artistic standstill for Williams that has been going on for too long, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 TFA > BFG 14 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: ONLY compared to The Book Thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 BFG for score and Book Thief for movie. Though I haven't seen either one, I'd watch Book Thief before watching BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 That final shot of the Book Thief with the blatant Apple logo is, indeed, ridiculous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 18 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Comparatively very weak Williams scores - I tend to say The Book Thief for score. As film The Book Thief is okaaaay and The BFG is fine - so I'll go with The BFG. Very weak? What the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 It's horses for courses. TBT the film, is WW2 lite. The main girl (sorry, but I can't be bothered to Google her name - life's too short) is quite good, as is the boy, but it's all a bit Disneyfied, for my tastes, played-out on an obvious set. Even The Waltons did a better book-burning scene. Roger Allam was good, though. The score is very much the best part of the film. Despite being a Spielberg film, BFG is never going to be a tent-pole JW score, and that's just fine, as it does its job, and it does it well. In summary; both have good and bad points, and because of this, it's a draw, on all counts, and that's nothing to be ashamed of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 TBT is an other Memoirs case, a film Johnny wanted to score, you can hear and feel it. And Williams is still on top of his game, the result is breathtaking. The fact people are hating this is beoynd me. Well many of them never bothered listen to it even through though... BFG has a wonderful score but sometimes it feels that John is composing for Steven just for the obligation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just now, hornist said: sometimes it feels that John is composing for Steven just for the oblivation... Hehehe... crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 ah we still laughing at typos edit: ah it was Bloodgoat, my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, hornist said: edit: ah it was Bloodgoat, my bad Hehehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Fuck I changed it in a minute and that stalkers attack was done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Can't comment on the films but The Book Thief is a better score. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 38 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Hehehe... Laugh it up, Bloodgoat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Seeing The Book Thief in cinema, I totally lost it emotionally in the last scenes with Visitor on Himmel Street, Rudy is Taken and Finale. It was along time a movie did this to me. it's JW's fault Joni Wiljami and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 hours ago, hornist said: TBT is an other Memoirs case, a film Johnny wanted to score, you can hear and feel it. And Williams is still on top of his game, the result is breathtaking. The fact people are hating this is beoynd me. Well many of them never bothered listen to it even through though... BFG has a wonderful score but sometimes it feels that John is composing for Steven just for the obligation... Don't worry Pasi. I love The Book Thief score too. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/16/2017 at 11:09 PM, Josh500 said: Wow, I didn't realize The BFG is so popular here (at least compared with Book Thief). Don't recall Book Thief ever being popular around here. People seem to at least enjoy BFG's primary theme and enough of the score to give it a passing grade, even though the score on album is somewhat directionless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 what if I said I liked The Book Thief (score) better than Schindler's List It's a better comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 hours ago, king mark said: what if I said I liked The Book Thief (score) better than Schindler's List It's a better comparison Yeah, right. Why don't you make that poll, then? On 18/08/2017 at 6:38 AM, hornist said: TBT is an other Memoirs case, a film Johnny wanted to score, you can hear and feel it. And Williams is still on top of his game, the result is breathtaking. The fact people are hating this is beoynd me. Well many of them never bothered listen to it even through though... BFG has a wonderful score but sometimes it feels that John is composing for Steven just for the obligation... Agree with the first paragraph (although I wonder... Who's hating it exactly?). Disagree with the second paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 2017-08-20 at 6:41 AM, king mark said: what if I said I liked The Book Thief (score) better than Schindler's List It's a better comparison Wouldn't that be a little redundant... ? I mean, I'd defend The Book Thief against a lot of scores... But pit it against Schindler???? One of John's most beloved score of all time? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Much much better score than SL. The film isn't that strong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Only on JWFan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Gotta love this place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 17/08/2017 at 3:20 PM, Jay said: That final shot of the Book Thief with the blatant Apple logo is, indeed, ridiculous!! I'm missing something here I guess, what's so ridiculous about seeing a computer at the end of a movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The problem is not the computer but the blatant product placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I see, but still, it's not something big enough to "ruin" the movie... On 17/08/2017 at 6:38 AM, Josh500 said: I thought the movie wasn't bad, but yeah, that final shot of Apple well-nigh ruined it for me. I mean, seriously WTF. This comment is more like WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Oh, I agree. Don't pay attention to that: it's a typical Internet overstatement. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 A lot of people own Apple computers. What about the shot, specifically, makes it such an overblown mess? Product placement usually occurs more than once. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Chewy said: I'm missing something here I guess, what's so ridiculous about seeing a computer at the end of a movie? You don't think its ridiculous to have platant product placement of a modern technology company logo in what is otherwise a WW2 holocaust movie!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: A lot of people own Apple computers. What about the shot, specifically, makes it such an overblown mess? Product placement usually occurs more than once. You forgot about the scene where the Nazis threaten to break Liesel's Macintosh. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 "Dat iz ein very goot kumputer you got zere! Zeize it!" Not Mr. Big and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 We're all surrounded by objects with great big brand logos on them. I find it more distracting when a film has gone out its way to de-brand a set. Less realistic. What is distracting is when it's obvious paid product placement. Like they keep making sure to show the logo to camera. When it feels unnatural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 That's what the final shot of The Book Thief is; An obvious pan and hold to the Apple logo. In a holocaust movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, Jay said: That's what the final shot of The Book Thief is; An obvious pan and hold to the Apple logo. In a holocaust movie. Are you saying you have a problem with the entire concept of a time jump to show she had a long happy life, or just that it showed a computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just that it panned and held on the apple logo, not that it included a final shot in the modern day to show she lived a happy life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I gotcha. Has to be paid for, right? Or why else would every other movie/show put a sticker over Apple logos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Exactly, it felt like blatant product placement through and through You can pan through her modern apart with the pictures of her children, etc, without needing to show what specific brand of computer she uses to write Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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