OneBuckFilms 324 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Before or after The Kiss. Thinking about it, since the Alternates appear to be chronological, I'd say immediately after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,848 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Here is again Jay's spreadhseet to solve some of your questions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QpVGzKLbN19_Tw2lwEU7LVglmqL3ogBrUWhTVUwHjww/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&hl=en_US&gid=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, OneBuckFilms said: My guess is that it would be somewhere around the Frogs area, since Harrison Ford's cameo was as a school teacher. Maybe after The Kiss, because after the chaos Elliot was responsible of in school, the teacher wanted to talk to im. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I really love the "Abandoned and Pursued" on the OS album. As far as I remember, on the 20th anniversary edition this track sounded slightly different. A different take? Anyway, both will be on the new set, in better sound quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, filmmusic said: Here is again Jay's spreadhseet to solve some of your questions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QpVGzKLbN19_Tw2lwEU7LVglmqL3ogBrUWhTVUwHjww/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&hl=en_US&gid=0 Oh thanks! I always ignored that, because it had not the "evil yellow or orange color". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The cue placement goes like this: Frogs The Kiss Levitation At Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Where did the name "Botanicus" come from again? Botnick => Bot-a-nick-us => Botanicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 So it has some of the E.T ride music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 To sum it up, here's the Complete Score Presentation in chronological order: Main Title 1:14 Far From Home / E.T. Alone 6:57 The Encounter 1:49 Bait for E.T. 1:45 Meeting E.T. 2:08 E.T.’s New Home 1:28 The Beginning of a Friendship 2:53 Toys 3:13 I’m Keeping Him 2:20 E.T.’s Powers 2:44 The Closet 0:53 E.T. and Elliott Get Drunk 2:57 Frogs 2:12 The Kiss 0:49 Levitation 0:41 At Home 5:38 The Magic of Halloween 2:55 Sending the Signal 3:58 Searching For E.T. 4:18 Invading Elliott’s House 2:24 Stay With Me 2:24 Losing E.T. 2:04 E.T. is Alive 4:22 The Rescue and Bike Chase 8:07 The Departure 7:07 End Credits 3:55 Total Running Time: 81:16 OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I wouldn't include Levitation in my own playlist. The scene's not even in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 324 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Beat me to it Brundlefly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I wouldn't include Levitation in my own playlist. The scene's not even in the movie. it's intended music so it goes on my playlist. Like all the unused music from Empire Strikes Back and RotJ Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, king mark said: Like all the unused music from empire Strikes Back Yeah but that's music for scenes that are still in the movie, where the music was just cut out. I mean it's only 40 seconds so who cares, but there is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, king mark said: it's intended music so it goes on my playlist. Like all the unused music from empire Strikes Back Did you include the typewriter chord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Everything you wrote down there I disagree with. And I disagree with your disagreement in agreeing with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: Yeah but that's music for scenes that are still in the movie, where the music was just cut out. I mean it's only 40 seconds so who cares, but there is a difference. I added Jedi for all that music for the deleted scene at the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,848 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Botnick => Bot-a-nick-us => Botanicus Hehe. It's Greek actually! βοτανικός (pronounced votanikos) = he who is concerned with plants Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Josh500 said: I really love the "Abandoned and Pursued" on the OS album. As far as I remember, on the 20th anniversary edition this track sounded slightly different. A different take? Abandoned and Pursued is a concert version made specifically for the album. The 20th anniversary and 1996 CD both have the same "film version" which is called E.T. Alone. It's worth noting that LD iso score is still slightly different from 2002/1996 CD, assuming it's the correct takewhich I assume it'll be on CD1. Like I said, I'm curious about that alternate version on CD2. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 yeah some parts are different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 38 minutes ago, Nemesis said: "E.T.'s Halloween" is a masterpiece as is "E.T. and Me" and "Abandoned and Pursued". I prefer "E.T. Alone" over "Abandoned and Pursued", "The Magic of Halloween" over "E.T.'s Halloween". 6 minutes ago, king mark said: yeah some parts are different You mean a difference between the 1996 and 2002 CD? Or both against the LD iso score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, phbart said: I prefer "E.T. Alone" over "Abandoned and Pursued", "The Magic of Halloween" over "E.T.'s Halloween". Karol? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 🤣🤣 I also prefer Jaws film recordings over the 75 OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hmm, that's the exception. Jaws OST has a lot of expanded material of cool music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, king mark said: Hmm, that's the exception. Jaws OST has a lot of expanded material of cool music I love both now that we got a proper release of the film tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 E.T. Adventure was probably my #1 "bootleg quality sound" track to be released Others in my top 5 are: Fanfare for Michael Dukakis Fanfare for Ten Years Old NBC rodeo Theme Satellite Celebration (original version with choir and percussion) and now Dear Baskettball of course Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The ONLY time I prefered a JW re-recording over an original recording was the 1998 Amazing Stories CD from Varesè. And it wasn't even conducted by JW... 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 are you kidding? The last track of The Mission is way better on the original recording by Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I prefer the BPO recording of "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra" Will and Marian Schedenig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,441 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, phbart said: So, back to the music... which E.T. CD can definitely be retired with this release coming? All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,745 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 ^ This is the correct answer. I may hold onto my OST, but the 1996 and 2002 albums are definitely going to the secondhand shop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,441 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Smeltington said: Thanks, Jay. So it sounds like the following can be edited from Disc 2 into the contents of Disc 1: The Encounter (is this the same as The Cornfield?) The Kiss The Levitation Right and yes. 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: Do you by any chance know what is the alternate for E.T.'s new home? We didn't have any evidence that there is an alternate of this cue. Sometimes alternates are recorded without needing to change sheet music (podium changes) 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: I think "The Encounter" follows after "Bait for E.T." and "The Kiss" follows after "Frogs". But what the hell is "Levitation"?! The Encounter is before Bait for ET, of course. Elliot has to know ET exists before he can bait him! The Kiss does indeed come after Frogs ; Frogs is 5M5 E.T. Gets An Idea while The Kiss is 5M6 The Quiet Man (Victor Young). Levitation is 6M2, and the scene was deleted from the final film. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, king mark said: are you kidding? The last track of The Mission is way better on the original recording by Williams It's been a while since I don't compare both. In fact I think I only did a couple of times back in 2007 or 2008 when I got the Intrada CD, and I remember not being overly impressed with the original recordings. Loved it, of course, but the re-recording still ranks at a higher place for me. 9 minutes ago, Jay said: The Encounter is before Bait for ET, of course. Elliot has to know ET exists before he can bait him! Sounds like a porn film you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 the tempo and percussions during the buildup to The Landing are far superior on the Williams conducted track But the "etheral" music after they land might be a bit better on the re-recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,132 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 OK Enough of E.T. I need the CLOSE ENCOUNTERS track list..now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,441 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Now I have. And where does it chronologically belong? Between The Kiss and At Home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, king mark said: the tempo and percussions during the buildup to The Landing are far superior on the Williams conducted track But the "etheral" music after they land might be a bit better on the re-recording Maybe the re-recording had the benefit of a larger recording studio with a larger orchestra assembly, modernized recording equipment and techniques. The original recordings sounds somewhat tighter, smaller in scale. Not that all of this can interfere with execution on the music itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 well it's like the original NBC news music .for some reason I like it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 557 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 45 minutes ago, phbart said: Maybe the re-recording had the benefit of a larger recording studio with a larger orchestra assembly, modernized recording equipment and techniques. The original recordings sounds somewhat tighter, smaller in scale. Not that all of this can interfere with execution on the music itself... I assumed that the album recording took place during the same sessions as the original soundtrack recording. They were both recorded by Lyle Burbridge and Bruce Botnick at MGM Scoring. -Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 247 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Erik Woods said: I assumed that the album recording took place during the same sessions as the original soundtrack recording. They were both recorded by Lyle Burbridge and Bruce Botnick at MGM Scoring. -Erik- I think they're talking about The Mission (Amazing Stories). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 A classic JWFan tangent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,848 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: All of them. according to your spreadsheet here about the finale: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QpVGzKLbN19_Tw2lwEU7LVglmqL3ogBrUWhTVUwHjww/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&hl=en_US&gid=0# the 1982 ost version on the new cd is the 1982 ost version. The tracks in cd 1 are either the LD iso score version/2002 dvd (without triangle) or the original theatrical cut version (with triangle)? (without the overlap of course) (have to check what is on the bluray) and the departure alternate in cd 2 is the 2002 cd version with the original ouch version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The 1996 and 2002 versions used an alternate take, without the triangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,848 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The 1996 and 2002 versions used an alternate take, without the triangle ok. Still doesn't answer my question what could be in cd1. the triangle version or the non-triangle version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I would imagine it's the take used in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 If they used the correct take, it will be the triangle version. Since that's in the movie. There's your answer, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,848 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, Stefancos said: If they used the correct take, it will be the triangle version. Since that's in the movie. There's your answer, really. so, they used a wrong take on the DVD? (since it says it doesn't have the triangle) Do you remember what did they use on the bluray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 If I remember correctly the DVD was missing the triangle. I dunno what's on the Blu filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Well since the blu-ray is the original theatrical cut, not the 20th anniversary version, I would think it has the triangle, but I don't know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,848 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: If I remember correctly the DVD was missing the triangle. I dunno what's on the Blu Ok. I'll check it later. Maybe we have differences there too between the 7.1 mix and the original stereo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Of course there will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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