Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Had this come out in the 90s, Jerry Goldsmith would have scored it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Had this come out in the 90s, Jerry Goldsmith would have scored it And been replaced by Alan Silvestri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: And been replaced by Alan Silvestri? Silvestri scored the live action version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Silvestri scored the live action version Replacing Jerry Goldsmith! (sort of, Goldsmith was apparently loosely attached to it under its original director) Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Trailer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Something about Mario's face kinda freaks me out. Toad looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 During the Direct they revealed that Brian Tyler is doing the score… Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Brian Tyler is scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,961 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 I quite like the look of that. I love Bowser, but not sure yet about Jack Black as the voice. I feel it should've been someone with a much deeper and booming voice. The characters designs looked great I felt. And theaser of Luigi's haunted mansion was fun. And Tyler as composer is a lot of fun I think. Hope he incorporates some of the themes from the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Since 2018, I can't look at Toad and not laugh/cringe, after he was compared to, well, a certain president of the United States' private parts. It's impossible to look at him and not to think: "well, there goes Trump's dick". SilverTrumpet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 So was this particular detail (Kondo being involved) legitimately confirmed in the Direct itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, HunterTech said: So was this particular detail (Kondo being involved) legitimately confirmed in the Direct itself? See 36:29 - 36:41: Quote Composer Brian Tyler heads to the scoring stage in just 11 days. He's been working hand in hand with Koji Kondo to integrate classic themes from the game into the film's score. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Best news of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 I think that looks great, can’t wait to take the whole family to see it. The aesthetic is just the right balance between Hollywood animation and bright Nintendo magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TolkienSS 407 Posted October 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2022 Having Brian Tyler adapt Koji Kondo is like having Lorne Balfe adapt Joe Hisaishi. SilverTrumpet, Faleel, Docteur Qui and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Looks like a good kids’ movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: Having Brian Tyler adapt Koji Kondo is like having Lorne Balfe adapt Joe Hisaishi. Stop comparing that hack Brian Tyler to the genius that is Lorne Balfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Is this Tyler’s first animated kids film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Is it safe to assume none of the music was by Tyler? All trailer house composers? I did not like the music at the end of the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Is this Tyler’s first animated kids film? They're not animation, but Tyler has done movies for kids before, like Dragonball Evolution and the 2014 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - i.e., you must be below the age of 8 to actually like these movies. Recently he has done the new Chip and Dale reboot on D+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Recently he has done the new Chip and Dale reboot on D+ It's not a reboot, it's a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, artguy360 said: Is it safe to assume none of the music was by Tyler? All trailer house composers? I did not like the music at the end of the trailer. Literally almost no trailer ever has music from the actual film in it. It's probably like .01% of trailers that have that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 56 minutes ago, Edmilson said: They're not animation, but Tyler has done movies for kids before, like Dragonball Evolution and the 2014 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - i.e., you must be below the age of 8 to actually like these movies. Recently he has done the new Chip and Dale reboot on D+ The Chip and Dale is certainly closer in tone to this than the others. I haven’t listened to any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 06/10/2022 at 1:38 AM, mstrox said: Sorry, Stu - no further shots below the belt. #Assgate continues. But if we complain loud enough, it’s possible that Illumination will go back to the drawing board Sonic-style and give us that big juicy ass we know and love. This is a ridiculous discussion. Clearly Mario has no ass because this is a prequel and he hasn't been doing all the running and jumping that will shape his princess peaches - that will come at the end of the film. Nice trailer, but goddamn I hate the nostalgic piano plinking drenched in reverb, it's insipid. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaaackified 81 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Is this Tyler’s first animated kids film? TMNT is definitely a kids movie, I don't know about Dragonball, I haven't seen it but based on everything I saw online about it I doubt any kid would actually like it. Earlier this year there was a Chip N'Dale comeback. Few years back he did one Power Ranger live action reboot, which features a unacceptably low use of that go go power rangers theme tune. And he did the first season of Transformer Prime as well as a Lego Universe game, both I like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tydirium 1,167 Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2022 Brian Tyler? Why must we always get a typical American Hollywood composer/score for this sort of thing? Why not hire a Japanese composer (the Star Wars Visions ones come to mind)? Why not grab one of the guys who did the Galaxy games, or 3D World, or Odyssey? For example, Mahito Yokota writes incredible themes; even if he is not comfortable working with film, then why not let him write the themes and let a Japanese film composer (or another composer who actually will respect the material) adapt them for the film? I've been thinking for months that we're probably going to end up with a pretty standard modern score that has a small handful of Mario theme references (probably only the classic, most recognizable ones, so the normies react), with probably some cringey pop song over the credits. Looking more and more likely that that will be the case. To think that we could have had a movie that actually looked like Mario and sounded like Mario; instead (as I've been predicting ever since this movie was announced), they use familiar visuals to lure people in, but then the audio is totally different. I mean if you think about it, why should the characters look anything like how they look in the games, if they're not going to sound like them? Speaking of which, why is it that when it comes to these sorts of films, people generally expect the visuals to mostly line up with what has been established (just look at how people reacted to Sonic, when things didn't line up), but for audio, virtually anything is fair game and gets a free pass? Is it somehow unreasonable to expect/hope that the audio should line up with what has been established? Nobody would have batted an eye if the games' actors were set to reprise their roles here, and nobody would have batted an eye if a classic Mario composer were set to provide the score. Just seems like a major missed opportunity, all-around. Not Mr. Big, Trope, Edmilson and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 16 hours ago, Roll the Bones said: Stop comparing that hack Brian Tyler to the genius that is Lorne Balfe Why are they collaborating anyway? Can't Tyler read notes? Does he need Kondo to tell him "that sucks"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I'm certainly far from excited about Tyler scoring this, but I can foresee a possible future where this turns out at the least fun and listenable. Of course, I also foresee more possible futures where it's a dull slog like most Tyler scores. Either way, Tyler getting the gig doesn't dampen my anticipation for the movie, which looks just great for a long-time Mario obsessive like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'm certainly far from excited about Tyler scoring this, but I can foresee a possible future where this turns out at the least fun and listenable. Of course, I also foresee more possible futures where it's a dull slog like most Tyler scores. It's Tyler, so it's at least 70% guaranteed that the score will be a slog to get through, filled with "epic trailer" versions of the Mario themes. @Tydirium is correct, they should've hired a Japanese composer with Nintendo experience. Instead, we'll get the same generic and forgettable crap they write for big budget movies. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Edmilson said: It's Tyler, so it's at least 70% guaranteed that the score will be a slog to get through, filled with "epic trailer" versions of the Mario themes. @Tydirium is correct, they should've hired a Japanese composer with Nintendo experience. Instead, we'll get the same generic and forgettable crap they write for big budget movies. Well, we know that he's incorporating Koji Kondo's theme(s) to at least some extent, so there could be a few cues that are keepers. OTOH he could mangle the themes in awful trailerized arrangements.... Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 Another McDonald's leak, this time Peach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 20 hours ago, Edmilson said: It's Tyler, so it's at least 70% guaranteed that the score will be a slog to get through, filled with "epic trailer" versions of the Mario themes. @Tydirium is correct, they should've hired a Japanese composer with Nintendo experience. Instead, we'll get the same generic and forgettable crap they write for big budget movies. Calm down, no one’s even heard the score yet. Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Also it’s a Hollywood production. While the Nintendo composers are brilliant at what they do they’re not film composers - game composing a completely different skill set. I can only think of a couple of examples of a game composer doing a film adaptation of their work; Akira Yamaoka for Silent Hill and Gustavo Santaolalla for the upcoming The Last of Us series. And in the latter case Santaolalla was a film composer already - he was hired for the game to support its deliberate cinematic aesthetic. Having Kondo work closely with Tyler is more than most adaptations would even get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, Docteur Qui said: Also it’s a Hollywood production. While the Nintendo composers are brilliant at what they do they’re not film composers - game composing a completely different skill set. I can only think of a couple of examples of a game composer doing a film adaptation of their work; Akira Yamaoka for Silent Hill and Gustavo Santaolalla for the upcoming The Last of Us series. And in the latter case Santaolalla was a film composer already - he was hired for the game to support its deliberate cinematic aesthetic. Having Kondo work closely with Tyler is more than most adaptations would even get. Having Akira Yamaoka’s music for the first Silent Hill movie was such an amazing move, it works very well towards capturing that same ambience of the games Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Can't believe I'm going to say this, but I think Henry Jackman would be a fine choice for this movie. He did a nice blend of old electronic videogame music with traditional Hollywood scoring in Wreck-It Ralph. DarthDementous and Docteur Qui 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 hours ago, DarthDementous said: Having Akira Yamaoka’s music for the first Silent Hill movie was such an amazing move, it works very well towards capturing that same ambience of the games I may be mistaken, but pretty sure the Silent Hill film score was Jeff Danna arranging Yamaoka’s themes. Don’t think Yamaoka actually scored anything to picture on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I may be mistaken, but pretty sure the Silent Hill film score was Jeff Danna arranging Yamaoka’s themes. Don’t think Yamaoka actually scored anything to picture on that one. Yup. I believe the plan was that they straight up were just going to use music from the games wholesale, but it being a Canadian production meant that it needed a good percentage of the crew to reflect that. I'm not sure how much Danna did end up having to arrange (especially when the one album that exists is a curated bootleg he had no involvement with), but a good portion still are just the original Akira compositions, I remember being told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I may be mistaken, but pretty sure the Silent Hill film score was Jeff Danna arranging Yamaoka’s themes. Don’t think Yamaoka actually scored anything to picture on that one. I thought the Danna stuff was really only in the second Silent Hill film, either way the collaboration worked in the first (not the second) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 21 hours ago, Edmilson said: Can't believe I'm going to say this, but I think Henry Jackman would be a fine choice for this movie. He did a nice blend of old electronic videogame music with traditional Hollywood scoring in Wreck-It Ralph. You can't convince me that Tyler and Jackman are different composers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: You can't convince me that Tyler and Jackman are different composers Jackman has done some interesting scores for kids movies (Wreck-It Ralph, Puss in Boots, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, Big Hero 6, etc), and his Marvel scores work well in context (though the listening experience of Winter Soldier's OST is awful). But he also has done some bland scores for action thrillers, filled with angry electronics, Bourne-like strings and everything else you come to expect from action movies these days. I guess film music fans in the late 80s never thought they'd miss Michael Kamen, but here we are. As for Tyler... Some of his action scores from the past decade are decent, like Iron Man 3, Expendables, TMNT, Thor: The Dark World. Over the last few years he has branched into others, less-action driven kinds of movies and TV shows, like Crazy Rich Asians, Yellowstone, etc. Kinda like a film music bad boy discovering his soft side . This Mario movie is probably his first light kiddie comedy since the beginning of his career, so we'll see if how much "epicness" the score will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: You can't convince me that Tyler and Jackman are different composers Tyler is the one who sounds like behind the scenes documentary music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 Brian Tyler and Henry Jackman don't really have a lot in common in terms of their compositional styles But they do both score a lot of the same types of films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I think it was a good idea that they went for someone other than Jackman for this. I absolutely enjoyed his score for the first Ralph but all the "clone" movies he worked on afterwards like, say, Pixels or even the Ralph sequel felt more of the same - albeit with far less enthusiasm. Still, their choice is highly surprising. It's like hearing a Nolan film is getting scored by Menken. Edmilson and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Drawgoon said: I think it was a good idea that they went for someone other than Jackman for this. I absolutely enjoyed his score for the first Ralph but all the "clone" movies he worked on afterwards like, say, Pixels or even the Ralph sequel felt more of the same - albeit with far less enthusiasm. Still, their choice is highly surprising. It's like hearing a Nolan film is getting scored by Menken. You're probably correct. Jackman absolutely peaked in the early-to-mid 2010s with Wreck-It Ralph, Puss in Boots, Big Hero 6, but lately even his animated scores are leaving no impression on me, like the Wreck-It Ralph sequel. I watched that movie and can't remember absolutely anything about the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Sure, agree about Jackman, but he also did some excellent stuff on The Predator and Skull Island despite what the fanboys say. The orchestrations are often innovative and detailed and work well beyond the usual guff that Tyler and team pull out. Maybe the Mario franchise will get Tyler inspired but not holding my breath. He's too busy posing with his new Porches and getting funky haircuts to do anything substantial. Kidding. His early work was good - Frailty, Children of Dune, Bubba Ho-Tep, Hunted. But since he hit the Vin Diesel phase of his career, it's literally been the same template for everything. I cannot tell where a new Rambo score begins and where the next Furious score ends. The same ostinatos, the same orchestration, the same theme, the same approach. Not surprised that Feige removed him from the Marvel franchise after Thor 2. The themes he composed for Thor 2, Avengers 2 and Marvel were more or less the same thing. And that's not franchise synergy but more or less lack of inspiration or laziness. He is a skilled musician and can clearly do more and while he may be a victim of the committee-approach to scoring, he is also one of those who is at the forefront of that dulling down of vibrant film music with identikit nonsense. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 3:32 PM, Koray Savas said: Calm down, no one’s even heard the score yet. LOL I don't know how zebra dung smells, too, but if I smelled it, I'm fairly certain it would smell like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: LOL I don't know how zebra dung smells, too, but if I smelled it, I'm fairly certain it would smell like shit. You can go ahead and write off an entire composer’s career as shit, but I like to be open minded and actually judge things by watching and/or listening them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I bet they considered John Williams for the Bob Hoskins Mario movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 View this post on Instagram A post shared by Brian Tyler (@briantylermusic) enderdrag64 and Docteur Qui 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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