Josh500 1,615 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Bespin said: I never saw any 7-CD boxset.... Normally it's 3 or 4... then 9, 10, 12... I would prefer a separate set for each movie. Just type in 7-cd on amazon. Hundreds of results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Just type in 7-cd on amazon. Hundreds of results! I'm talking about SERIOUS music. Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Drew said: Except for remastering two already-good recordings by making them sound like dried-out, older recordings... I like him. He's silly! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, Bespin said: I'm talking about SERIOUS music. Huh. Just type in 7-cd on amazon. Dozens of results for serious music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I think you are not a very reliable source! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bespin said: I think you are not a very reliable source! Are you a bit slow? 😂 Again, not me, Amazon! Ah, never mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 You better shut up I think! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, Bespin said: You better shut up I think! 🤣 That was your comeback in kindergarten too, right? 😂 Seriously, AMAZON. Check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Drew said: Except for remastering two already-good recordings by making them sound like dried-out, older recordings... For a minute I thought you were talking about ESB... Anyway, what's wrong with the JP and TLW sound from the 2016 release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, phbart said: For a minute I thought you were talking about ESB... Anyway, what's wrong with the JP and TLW sound from the 2016 release? It's nowhere near as bad as complete ESB. The JP and TLW remasters feel very dry to me, and the sections don't quite sound organic. It sounds like they separated the sources, did some touch-ups to make things sound more refined, and put them back into the mix. I feel that this is unnecessary for recordings that already sound very good in their original form, and actually makes the final product sound older. The original JP recording was a tad bit archival, while TLW's original album hasn't aged a day in terms of mixing quality. The most egregious example of my dissatisfaction of LLL's remasters would be the Batman albums. The Batman OST still sounds great. The LLL version separated everything in the mix to make it surround sound-ish and center-heavy, at the expense of it sounding like an organic performance. The Batman Returns remaster was given the same treatment, but its original recording is rather dull compared to its predecessor. I prefer the sound of both of the original releases. The LLL Batman Forever sounds much better than those two. The JP albums are like this but much milder. My point is that we are coming to into a time where the original recordings sound so good that remastering them might be detrimental. The SW prequels and the HP trilogy prequels sound great how they are and I don't want them tampered with in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Teasing aside, I half-concur that I think JP plays and sounds better on the album. TLW, though, that's when ya lose me, bucko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I prefer the LLL version of both JP and TLW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Can't we at least agree that there's nothing better than "The Trek" and be pals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 I fucking hate that track. Kasey Kockroach, bollemanneke and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I'm sure it's mutual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Can't we at least agree that there's nothing worse than "The Trek" and be pals? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Drew said: It's nowhere near as bad as complete ESB. The JP and TLW remasters feel very dry to me, and the sections don't quite sound organic. It sounds like they separated the sources, did some touch-ups to make things sound more refined, and put them back into the mix. I feel that this is unnecessary for recordings that already sound very good in their original form, and actually makes the final product sound older. The original JP recording was a tad bit archival, while TLW's original album hasn't aged a day in terms of mixing quality. The most egregious example of my dissatisfaction of LLL's remasters would be the Batman albums. The Batman OST still sounds great. The LLL version separated everything in the mix to make it surround sound-ish and center-heavy, at the expense of it sounding like an organic performance. The Batman Returns remaster was given the same treatment, but its original recording is rather dull compared to its predecessor. I prefer the sound of both of the original releases. The LLL Batman Forever sounds much better than those two. The JP albums are like this but much milder. My point is that we are coming to into a time where the original recordings sound so good that remastering them might be detrimental. The SW prequels and the HP trilogy prequels sound great how they are and I don't want them tampered with in the future. The orchestral instruments of the TLW OST are quite muffled and the percussion is too dominant. You can't tell me that you prefer it over the new detailed and clear mix that gives you the impression of a real orchestra playing in your living room. I would have agreed with if you were talking about The Mummy. I made a comparison of the old and the new mix and the OST tracks do not sound inferior in any way regarding clarity and the level of detail. The only difference is the mix itself - which is inconsistent, partly too hot and even distorted at times. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: gives you the impression of a real orchestra playing in your living room. That's totally unrealistic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 The new Mummy sounds atrocious. Way, way too hot. TLW sounds superb from start to finish. Matessino nailed it. The clarity is astonishing. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 What rubbish. 'The Mummy' is a more idiosyncratic mix than the more polished Decca one and one might have some issues with it but atrocious it's not. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Can't we at least agree that there's nothing better than "The Trek" and be pals? Initially I thought you're talking about Star Trek! 😂 Yeah, The Trek is great, but surely not the best from that score! I mean, The Hunt, Rescuing Sarah, Ludlow's Speech, The Lost World, The Stegosaurus etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I only like 28 tracks from that score. Rest is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 The Trek is better than everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Only World's Worst Bedtime Storyteller could compete with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: Yeah, The Trek is great, but surely not the best from that score! I mean, The Hunt, Rescuing Sarah, Ludlow's Speech, The Lost World, The Stegosaurus etc. The Trek is certainly better than Ludlow's Speech and The Lost World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 But better by how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: The Trek is certainly better than Ludlow's Speech and The Lost World. And the other tracks I mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Never heard anything wrong with the LLL Batman Returns. I thought the OST was one of the weirdest sounding albums I'd ever heard. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 I like the JP from LLL over the OST and the 192kHz 24bit 2013 digital release, even though the LLL cames from the same 2013 transfer and all three releases doesn't sound radically different from each other. But I do prefer the edits and track order from the OST. TLW souns better, without a doubt. And it plays better in the C&C configuration. The Batman LLL release... usually the 2014 remaster is better than the 2010, but a few tracks sounds better to my ears on the 2010 release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I think my issue with some of these remasters is that touching up sections with better clarity makes them all sound drier than they were originally. Perhaps they should add a hint of reverb in each section before putting everything back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 It doesn't sound dry! You want dry, go listen to Rogue One! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: It doesn't sound dry! You want dry, go listen to Rogue One! It sounds like a wet recording stripped of its external wetness from being touched up. So, kinda dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Alright, which one of you guys is using a hairdryer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Maybe I'm crazy because I still haven't followed Lorne Balfe's advice to get better headphones. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 He'd just make my tinnitus worse with any of his recommendations anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Each instrument and section sounds more isolated and spread out from the room / ensemble sound in these remasters. When you do this, you lose some of the wetness that the original had. When I say dry, I am referring to how each individual instrument and section sound. Collectively, they sound a bit weird when placed into a wet mixing soundscape. The difference between this and Rogue One, etc. is that RO has the whole soundscape mixed and positioned in respect to a dry mix. It remains me how the Garrian samples in Finale sound before I apply reverb effects. Every instrument stands out and it does not sound like an ensemble. JP sounds a lot better than Finale, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I don't need Lost World for wetness when I've got miss Russell! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Phwoar baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nothing for October. However, there is November to look forward to, as well as Black Friday. Schindler’s List will be in December. I still have Amistad in my mind for some reason, as well as Superman. However, while I am hoping for the Maestro’s three Harry Potter scores, I am starting to doubt that will be released this year. I could be wrong, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnnyD said: Nothing for October. Maybe October 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 There are no October 9th releases, just October 23rd this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 So maybe some of the releases were initially planned to be released on October 9 then... Well, we still have november for Harry Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,372 Posted October 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2018 Honestly I'd be fine if LLL shifted to releasing 1 batch per month next year, instead of 2 or 3 batches per month. crumbs, 1977 and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 So one for the books, is it still on? I'm assuming Schindler, as wonderful a release as it no doubt will be, is not it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 And even if it's supposed to mean SPR, SL and Superman... Can Superman be improved radically, sound-wise? 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Watching everyone wallow in pain, anguish and misery as they await something interesting to happen that's John Williams-related would make a great book in of itself! Jonny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Ha! So the idea is- 2018 is going to be one for the books, and the suspense will forefront the note-worthiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Maybe the entire Black Friday batch is Williams. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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