Harry Potter 7CD Collection - MUSIC discussion

[Jay 39,162]

In this thread we can discuss the actual musical contents of the set without all the other clutter.

 

Shipping and ordering updates can stay in the original thread, and you can share pictures and videos and discuss the packaging, art direction, and notes in the thread for that.

 

Thanks!

[Bespin 8,674]

How many threads will you open for a single expanded set? This become very serious!

 

Maybe you should start a bunch of threads for each disc of the box...

 

 

[Holko 10,086]

So the old one is just for the samples? This one's a bit too much, I think.

[Brundlefly 2,393]

This is the fifth thread for the damn HP Collection!

[Disco Stu 15,501]

What happened to the thread where samples were discussed?

[Bespin 8,674]

3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

What happened to the thread where samples were discussed?

 

Please write this in the "Samples" discussion thread.

[Jay 39,162]

59 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

What happened to the thread where samples were discussed?

 

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29066-harry-potter-7cd-collection-samples-and-clips-discussion/

[Holko 10,086]

Yes, why wasn't that good enough? Did we really need this one?

[Bespin 8,674]

Hey I was joking!

 

This thread really exist?

 

🤣🤣🤣

[Bilbo 3,777]

Why is there a thread for samples and a thread for music? That’s total overkill. 

[Disco Stu 15,501]

I honestly just lost track of it after he renamed it

[Jay 39,162]

If you guys don't have the set yet, or aren't responding to posts discussing the music by someone who does, then keep your comments to yourself. The threads are what they are.  Thank you.

[Bespin 8,674]

Woops I received a very serious PM.

 

The teacher's back, recreation time is over!!!

 

😕

[mrbellamy 6,679]

Before I do a full listen of all three scores I just had to dig around POA a bit  pointing out a couple of the source music question marks,"Wizards Consort" is the Leaky Cauldron fiddle and Three Broomstick piece and the boy playing flute is in the main program as "The Courtyard".

 

Also that first spooky Double Trouble statement over the Hogwarts Express is moved to "Trouble Takes Many Forms" before the Dumbledore speech cue.

 

No crossfades or anything. Set sounds amazing, of course.

[TSMefford 1,526]

By the way. I did recently rediscover the Source Cue from Lupin's Record Player at the end of the movie, when Lupin is packing.

 

Just go here, and check out Track 7: https://www.apmmusic.com/albums/BR-0191

 

[Once 680]

"Wizard Consort" sounds like my dream track. And what an awesome title, did MM come up with that?

[TSMefford 1,526]

5 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

Before I do a full listen of all three scores I just had to dig around POA a bit  pointing out a couple of the source music question marks,"Wizards Consort" is the Leaky Cauldron fiddle and Three Broomstick piece and the boy playing flute is in the main program as "The Courtyard".

 

Also that first spooky Double Trouble statement over the Hogwarts Express is moved to "Trouble Takes Many Forms" before the Dumbledore speech cue.

 

No crossfades or anything. Set sounds amazing, of course.

 

Thanks for the insight! Is "Something Wicked Intro" also in that Trouble Takes Many Forms track?

[Jay 39,162]

3 minutes ago, Once said:

"Wizard Consort" sounds like my dream track. And what an awesome title, did MM come up with that?

 

I believe he did, yes.

[crumbs 14,696]

15 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

Before I do a full listen of all three scores I just had to dig around POA a bit  pointing out a couple of the source music question marks,"Wizards Consort" is the Leaky Cauldron fiddle and Three Broomstick piece and the boy playing flute is in the main program as "The Courtyard".

 

Great news about the contents of the Wizards Consort, as predicted then. And the flute piece moved to the Courtyard, also as predicted. Perfect!

 

Are both Leaky Cauldron source pieces included? There's one piece when Harry arrives and another later on when he talks with Mr. Weasley (with a shawm). 

[TSMefford 1,526]

Also on Non-JW source music. " La Cumparsita" as mentioned in the end credits in the music from the TV played immediately after Aunt Marge's Waltz finishes:

 

 

I think most people here know the deal with the Boggart source music, so I won't bother restating that.

[TSMefford 1,526]

1 minute ago, crumbs said:

Great news about the contents of the Wizards Consort, as predicted then. And the flute piece moved to the Courtyard, also as predicted. Perfect!

 

Are both Leaky Cauldron source pieces included? There's one piece when Harry arrives and another later on when he talks with Mr. Weasley (with a shawm). 

 

As @Jay has said, i'm sure it is.

[Jay 39,162]

I never said all the source music was included.  Again, I very specifically said:

 

On 11/23/2018 at 11:09 AM, Jay said:

There is no Williams score in the film that is not on the new set.

[mrbellamy 6,679]

Wizards' Consort has the first Leaky Cauldron piece with the fiddle, not the shawm. Don't know if it's here, I'm no expert yet.

[Imhotep 0]

What I'd love to know is if "The Chamber Opens and The Search for Ginny" actually contains the incredible three note loop as the sink opens up. Is that on the set?

[TSMefford 1,526]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

I never said all the source music was included.  Again, I very specifically said:

 

 

No worries if it's not. Sorry for misquoting you @Jay

[Once 680]

It's all very intriguing. I'm really looking forward to everything Azkaban has to offer. Mostly because it will surely provide a completely different listening experience than the original OST.

 

I've been looking forward to this release for the better part of my life, and I honestly didn't expect it to happen until after 2024. So I'm not even impatient for the set to arrive, I'm just so happy it's happening.

[Jay 39,162]

1 minute ago, Imhotep said:

What I'd love to know is if "The Chamber Opens and The Search for Ginny" actually contains the incredible three note loop as the sink opens up. Is that on the set?

 

Yes that's what "The Chamber Opens" is

[Imhotep 0]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

 

Yes that's what "The Chamber Opens" is

Ah, perfect! I thought as much, but it seemed too short to me for it to be true! 

[Jay 39,162]

Hmmm, well it IS a short cue [8m2A Insert The Chamber Door Opens], its the first 40 seconds only of the track.  I can't remember now if the film extended it with tracking or something

 

The rest of the track contains two cues we had in the leak - 8M2B Pt 1 Goodbye To Memories ["Pit of Bones" in the "On The Track" book] and 8M2B Pt 2 Harry Goes To Find Ginny

[Imhotep 0]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Hmmm, well it is a short cue, its the first 40 seconds only of the track.  I can't remember now if the film extended it with tracking or something

 

The rest of the track contains two cues we had in the leak - 8M2B Pt 1 Goodbye To Memories ["Pit of Bones" in the "On The Track" book] and 8M2B Pt 2 Harry Goes To Find Ginny

Thank you, I'm intrigued to say the least!

[mrbellamy 6,679]

15 minutes ago, TSMefford said:

Thanks for the insight! Is "Something Wicked Intro" also in that Trouble Takes Many Forms track?

 

It's included at the end of "Monster Book and Discussing Black"  

 

Definitely seems like loads of work went into finding homes for all these little cues in the wider listening experience. They're not always in the most obvious spot but there's a logic to it, I can appreciate how it's organized. And again, each individual cue within these compilation tracks have a clean beginning and ending so it's all groovy. Very special to hear this stuff.

[TSMefford 1,526]

3 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

 

It's included at the end of "Monster Book and Discussing Black"  

 

Definitely seems like loads of work went into finding homes for all these little cues in the wider listening experience. They're not always in the most obvious spot but there's a logic to it, I can appreciate how it's organized. And again, each individual cue within these compilation tracks have a clean beginning and ending so it's all groovy. Very special to hear this stuff.

 

Awesome. That is what it's seemed like based on what we've been hearing. Very exciting!

[Once 680]

Honestly, I prefer it like that. A nice listening experience that includes everything.

And what a nice idea to include alternates into the main program. This really is a treat.

[TSMefford 1,526]

I've got a massive spreadsheet going on trying to organize everything. Lol. This is gonna be awesome.

[crumbs 14,696]

Just now, Once said:

Honestly, I prefer it like that. A nice listening experience that includes everything.

And what a nice idea to include alternates into the main program. This really is a treat.

 

Has something new been discovered? Alternate Train to Hogwarts? 

 

We already knew about the alternate Big Doors coming straight after the original version, and Pettigrew piece at the end of Bird's Flight. 

[Once 680]

No, I was referring to those two examples.

[crumbs 14,696]

Ok. 

[Jay 39,162]

7 minutes ago, TSMefford said:

I've got a massive spreadsheet going on trying to organize everything. Lol. This is gonna be awesome.

 

I find this depressing.  I wish everyone would just listen to the program at least one time as it is, preferably with no distractions (like online forums) before analyzing it and breaking it down into what cue is presented where.

[Once 680]

On my first listen I won't even look at the track titles. I'm really looking forward to it.

[crumbs 14,696]

1 minute ago, Once said:

On my first listen I won't even look at the track titles. I'm really looking forward to it.

 

Yeah on every new Williams release I just turn off the display so it's music only. Must be like the old days of playing vinyl! 

[TSMefford 1,526]

8 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

I find this depressing.  I wish everyone would just listen to the program at least one time as it is, preferably with no distractions (like online forums) before analyzing it and breaking it down into what cue is presented where.

 

Oh I will. Don't worry @Jay. It's mostly just prep for later. Right now it just has all the film cues with the film times and my theory on where they'll be (with only some confirmed). I will absolutely be listening all the way through before I dive into it. Probably a couple times.

 

I'm greatly looking forward to Azkaban, but I'm honestly really excited to revisit 1 and 2 as well. Like I said earlier, I've heard that Troll cue from HP1, but hearing it again in that interview sounded outstanding. My heart was almost pounding. It's going to be an exciting time. I'm probably going to try and put on the music and sit down and read the linear notes. It's a pity my set won't be here until Monday, because that sounds like an insanely relaxing Sunday

[Brundlefly 2,393]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

I find this depressing.  I wish everyone would just listen to the program at least one time as it is, preferably with no distractions (like online forums) before analyzing it and breaking it down into what cue is presented where.

When I will get the set, I won't visit the forum for weeks probably. And yeah, the spreadsheet serves no rational purpose, because we have the complete score now and except the listening pleasure nothing else should be of importance.

[TSMefford 1,526]

13 minutes ago, Brundlefly said:

When I will get the set, I won't visit the forum for weeks probably. And yeah, the spreadsheet serves no rational purpose, because we have the complete score now and except the listening pleasure nothing else should be of importance.

 

Maybe no purpose for you, and that is fine. We all have our own things we do. It has a purpose for me later on. I typically like making a chronological film presentation at some point because I like having that playlist to listen to, should I choose (sometimes it's weeks, sometimes months later. Ex: I still haven't gotten around to Titanic yet, but have listened to the set itself many times) I just realized I had yet to go through and mark down the order and timing for POA in the film itself. So I did that to pass the time during the wait. It was a great way to get me excited and remember all the awesome music we are about to get (Plus all the stuff we haven't heard in any form yet)

 

Regardless. The top priority when the set arrives is to tune out of the world and tune in to some amazing music. Our individual preferences on what to do or not to do well come later.

[Chewy 2,495]

19 minutes ago, TSMefford said:

It's a pity my set won't be here until Monday

At least it's shipped

[TSMefford 1,526]

2 minutes ago, Chewy said:

At least it's shipped

 

Aw shucks. Yeah. I should consider myself very lucky. 

 

This must be you, right about now:

[crumbs 14,696]

Judging from the background music in that unboxing video above (admittedly it's a little hard to hear the end of Lumos! Film Version), it seems That's a Lie and Aunt Marge Points the Finger have been smartly relegated to Aunt Marge's Waltz (Alternate) on disc 2.

[Holko 10,086]

A very limited sneak peak tells me that apparently there do exist hidden unheard gems even within PS. That Diagon Alley intro, was that the original intention for the bricks and the reveal? Sounds great!

 

A couple other questions: is there a boys' choir in CoS? In the Lotr Two Towers Appendices they say the London Oratory Boys Choir sung for Harry Potter the week before. Maybe that could've referred to the Hogwarts Forever vocal version a year before? Or the Double Trouble trailer if it was recorded in mid-to late 2003?

 

Do any of the booklets state what The Stone (Three Note Loop) was written for? The big middle section is unused in the film.

[bollemanneke 3,568]

So is Aunt Marge Points The Finger included?

[crumbs 14,696]

Yes, somewhere.

[TSMefford 1,526]

2 hours ago, crumbs said:

Yes, somewhere.

 

Great answer. XD