Jay 38,747 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 hours ago, oierem said: My ideal concert program would only include music form three or four film scores, at at least 20-30 minutes of music for each (either as a suite or as a continuous piece). That'd be cool! oierem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,776 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Goldsmith's 2001 LSO concert at the Royal Albert Hall is probably the best big composer-conducts-his-own-film-music-with-a-major-orchestra concert we've had so far from a programme standpoint. Though to be fair, Williams has an impossible task if you consider how many people go to these concerts to hear his greatest hits for the first time in their lives and that despite all the highlight concert reductions, he still can't pack half of them into one concert. Even with Berlin you get semi knowledgeable Williams fans (who are no strangers to classical concerts) who would have wished for more highlights in place of the lesser (i.e. less well known) stuff. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 565 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Goldsmith's 2001 LSO concert at the Royal Albert Hall is probably the best big composer-conducts-his-own-film-music-with-a-major-orchestra concert we've had so far from a programme standpoint. Though to be fair, Williams has an impossible task if you consider how many people go to these concerts to hear his greatest hits for the first time in their lives and that despite all the highlight concert reductions, he still can't pack half of them into one concert. Even with Berlin you get semi knowledgeable Williams fans (who are no strangers to classical concerts) who would have wished for more highlights in place of the lesser (i.e. less well known) stuff. Precisely. It’s like seeing The Stones; 95% of the audience wants Satisfaction and Start Me Up, and only 5% want the 80s b-sides. Just now, GlastoEls said: Precisely. It’s like seeing The Stones; 95% of the audience wants Satisfaction and Start Me Up, and only 5% want the 80s b-sides. In fact, maybe 5 people TOTAL want the 80s b-sides! blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,776 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: Precisely. It’s like seeing The Stones; 95% of the audience wants Satisfaction and Start Me Up, and only 5% want the 80s b-sides. I want Gimme Shelter and She's a Rainbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 361 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Goldsmith's 2001 LSO concert at the Royal Albert Hall is probably the best big composer-conducts-his-own-film-music-with-a-major-orchestra concert we've had so far from a programme standpoint. Has a recording survived? Or just the programme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,776 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Martinland said: Has a recording survived? Or just the programme? There's a low quality audience recording by a certain fan of Nana Vistor. Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,207 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 11:07 AM, Sibelius6 said: I liked Vienna more, but this was still amazing!! Love JW. My seat wasn't very good acoustically in Berlin, now when I have heard this wonderful DC version, I'm not sure anymore. Lets say I'm happy I was able to experience both. Sunshine Reger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Thinking about the program, I think one of the most succesful ones I’ve ever seen is the LA Phil celebration in 2014. There, they truly celebrated JW the musician in a broad sense and it was less about crowd pleasers, even though it had Darth Vader on stage during the encore. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Remco said: Thinking about the program, I think one of the most succesful ones I’ve ever seen is the LA Phil celebration in 2014. There, they truly celebrated JW the musician in a broad sense and it was less about crowd pleasers, even though it had Darth Vader on stage during the encore. I have the blu-ray of that, it's a fantastic concert. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,776 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 So which concert had the best Imperial March? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,776 Posted October 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: So which concert had the best Imperial March? Vienna, easily. blondheim, Timo Martikainen, Lord Montague and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,529 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Berlin, easily. Faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,776 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I like the sound of that. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,529 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Have you decided which source you're going to watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,453 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: So which concert had the best Imperial March? The Prague Philharmonic Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I like the sound of the hall and the Viennese horns, but the Berliners played it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,776 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Have you decided which source you're going to watch? I'll probably wait for the album or Blu-ray release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,529 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Okay, if it's a 100% complete album you're looking for... I had a blast last night. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 608 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Why can't we simply enjoy both? We are so lucky that JW got to conduct both orchestras, the two leading institutions in the world. Nobody would have thought that would happen in Nov 2018. I feel blessed I could attend them both. If you were not there you can't really rate...both were magical. Hard to describe. bigjimwilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve said: Why can't we simply enjoy both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,776 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Steve said: the two leading institutions in the world. I haven't seen a single ranking where this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locrius 97 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 20/10/2021 at 5:37 AM, bollemanneke said: I'm still surprised that, for me, nobody seems to be able to rival the Boston Pop's version of Flight to Neverland. Even the LSO version is missing... something. The issue with that Boston one is the timpani that comes in a bar late at 0:59. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,776 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Are you referring to the Sony recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locrius 97 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Yep. In every other recording (and the score), the timpani is with the low brass on those triplets. In the Boston Pops one, it's a bar later than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,776 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 It never occurred to me that could be a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croweyes1121 14 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 18/10/2021 at 6:13 AM, Sibelius6 said: Yes, the tempo in Jurassic Park was ridiculous!! I usually hate too slow tempos but that was too much, the piece lost its religious touch I think. Both Vienna and Berlin played Jurassic too fast. Berlin was just worse. Williams just conducts the main theme faster than the original in concerts. Always has. I’ve never heard it played at the original tempo in any of the performances I’ve seen / heard. Oddly, though, the tempo changes to spot-on during the Journey to the Island portion in Vienna whereas it’s *still* too fast in Berlin. FWIW, I’m about 3/4 through Berlin right now, and I enjoy both shows, and find that both have their respective strengths and weaknesses. I agree with the earlier poster who said that Berlin feels more “restrained”. I can’t put my finger on it. Sometimes that restraint is a positive. Other times it isn’t. And this is a strictly a personal preference, but I rather dislike how animated nearly all of the musicians are in Berlin. No impact on the music itself, of course, but I just find it distracting in a way that Vienna isn’t. Most of the people here have forgotten more about the minutiae of these things than I will ever learn, but if I *had* to choose one or the other of these concerts to break out to show someone who’d never seen a JW performance, right now I’d pick Vienna. EDIT: In case it’s not clear from above, I wasn’t at the actual shows; I’m talking about the Blu-ray’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,529 Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 I love the Vienna tempo/performance of the first section and the Berlin tempo/performance of the second. Will be updating this poll after Vienna has shown what it does with a second chance. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 608 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I love the Vienna tempo/performance of the first section and the Berlin tempo/performance of the second. Will be updating this poll after Vienna has shown what it does with a second chance. I think the orchestral world can't wait for your rating. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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