Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 Indiana Jones but with more of a Kung Fu action twist could work really well Andy, Brando, Edmilson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 The concept of a kung-fu Indy film brings Jackie Chan to mind. Specifically "Kung Fu Yoga", where he plays an archaeologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Why would the film have to contain kung-fu if there's an Asian lead? Kind of stereotypical. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I would prefer If he had a lightsaber. Jurassic Shark and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Or duct tape. Brando and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Why would the film have to contain kung-fu if there's an Asian lead? Kind of stereotypical. Because the actor is an extremely accomplished film martial artist? Have you seen Everything Everywhere All At Once? ThePenitentMan1, Docteur Qui, Edmilson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, DarthDementous said: Because the actor is an extremely accomplished film martial artist? Have you seen Everything Everywhere All At Once? Short Round also used some martial arts on a few Thuggee in ToD, so it wouldn't be out of nowhere for the character either. Docteur Qui, DarthDementous, Edmilson and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 20 hours ago, DarthDementous said: Indiana Jones but with more of a Kung Fu action twist could work really well Yes, it definitely does. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,456 Posted March 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: Short Round also used some martial arts on a few Thuggee in ToD, so it wouldn't be out of nowhere for the character either. It must've been utterly embarrassing for the Thugee guard to have his ass kicked by a 9-year-old small boy. Brando, DarthDementous and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted March 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Edmilson said: It must've been utterly embarrassing for the Thugee guard to have his ass kicked by a 9-year-old small boy. Thug life. Andy, Brando and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 13 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: Short Round also used some martial arts on a few Thuggee in ToD, so it wouldn't be out of nowhere for the character either. Darth, is there something wrong with what I wrote here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Thug life. I get outta bed, eat more than these people eat in a week, and I think about leaving the village (Thug life). In the afternoon, I get on an elephant, and I go chasing after fortune and glory (Thug life). Sometimes I ride around with my friend, with some ditzy blonde, in tow (Thug life). Then we go over to Pankot, where she's given one up the how's-your-father, by someone who likes older women - they love a bit of it. All the children. So many children. They all go, trapped in chains, trapped in chains through their Thug life. Nick1Ø66, DarthDementous and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Living up the Thug life It's the big Thuggee dream For those who wish to scheme Those who wish to scream Must put aside the vegetarian Eat monkey brains like a fat barbarian The infiltration The Mola Ram team! Andy and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Very funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: Darth, is there something wrong with what I wrote here? No, I just tend to react with the Thinking emojii when it’s new information I haven’t considered before (been a long ass time since I last saw ToD and have only seen it once) Jurassic Shark and ThePenitentMan1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Has anyone ever tried to mash Rosenthal's Young Indy theme with the Raiders March? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,419 Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 To this day I'm still blown away by how well the Raiders March works for the return to the village scene. If I ever had the chance to interview or even ask one question to the maestro, it would be asking if the raiders march was always the answer for that scene. I do think JW could have scored it with its own cue but the fact that the raiders march works perfectly for the scene is a testament to how good that cue really is for emotional scenes. Andy, Brando, Edmilson and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I was 12 years old in the theater, crying happy tears at the end of Temple of Doom. Happiest ending of the series. Bellosh and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 The cheers of the parents being reunited with their children is such a lovely sound, and of course the cherry on top is the Raiders March covering it all Andy and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 The transitions in and especially back out of the March are splendid. Into the Slave Children theme for “I understand its power now” and then the cheerful transition back to the March for Willie’s conversation with Jones are just jubilant. Bellosh and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Bellosh said: To this day I'm still blown away by how well the Raiders March works for the return to the village scene. If I ever had the chance to interview or even ask one question to the maestro, it would be asking if the raiders march was always the answer for that scene. I do think JW could have scored it with its own cue but the fact that the raiders march works perfectly for the scene is a testament to how good that cue really is for emotional scenes. Oh wow, I never even contemplated that! I guess I just kinda assumed they always planned on ending it with that, but I can see a world where JW pondered other options, maybe even sketched out something and demoed it on the piano. Who knows! As it stands, it's probably one of my favorite cues in the whole saga. It's a great performance of the main elements of the Raiders March, but the way it so successfully integrates Willy's Theme and the Slave Children theme is just outstanding. I really, REALLY wish he had included it on the original OST LP; I would have dropped 3 minutes elsewhere to include all this in the final track instead of just the first 12 seconds and then jumping forward to the end credits. oierem, Bellosh, Brando and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jay said: I really, REALLY wish he had included it on the original OST LP; I would have dropped 3 minutes elsewhere to include all this in the final track instead of just the first 12 seconds and then jumping forward to the end credits. Which means OST die hards never heard this legendary cue outside of the movie Andy and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Their loss Andy and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Which means OST die hards never heard this legendary cue outside of the movie It makes the strongest impression in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I makes the strongest impression in the movie. You do? Brando and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Haven't you seen Jurassic World? Smeltington and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, Jay said: I really, REALLY wish he had included it on the original OST LP; I would have dropped 3 minutes elsewhere to include all this in the final track instead of just the first 12 seconds and then jumping forward to the end credits. They could have dropped 'The Temple of Doom" from the OST. Not only never liked it, as a young teenager it made me feel quite uneasy. Luckily it was the first track on the second LP side, so easy to skip. ThePenitentMan1, Brando, Jay and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,863 Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: They could have dropped 'The Temple of Doom" from the OST. Not only never liked it, as a young teenager it made me feel quite uneasy. Luckily it was the first track on the second LP side, so easy to skip. But the vocals are incredible!! Jurassic Shark, GerateWohl and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Looking at hte OST LP's tracklist, the only way I can see to make room for the full Return to The Village, is to cut about 3 minutes out of Nocturnal Activities, or drastically shorten the end credits. But really this score deserved to be a double-LP, just like CE3K and Jedi should have been as well Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Jay said: cut about 3 minutes out of Nocturnal Activities, or drastically shorten the end credits. I would’ve sacrificed Children in Chains. But even that has important minor key statements of the Slave Children theme. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 That's the problem, every cue on the OST is an important one! Brando and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: They could have dropped 'The Temple of Doom" from the OST. Not only never liked it, as a young teenager it made me feel quite uneasy. Luckily it was the first track on the second LP side, so easy to skip. I’ll admit, it’s the track that gets the most reaction from the rest of the people living in your house. But it is a nightmarish masterpiece of percussion and choir. Brando and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jay said: But really this score deserved to be a double-LP just like CE3K and Jedi should have been as well And Raiders and E.T. 39 minutes ago, Brando said: But the vocals are incredible!! I don't mind or even embrace having the track on a 77 minutes album program. But on an album, that was hardly 40 minutes I would have prefered something else. Like Jay said, these 80s scores would have deserved a double album. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Unpopular opinion: I've never been a fan of the sacrifice cues from ToD either. While I'm not entirely against "demonic chanting" in horror scores (some of my favorite are Goldsmith's The Omen and Don Davis' House on the Haunted Hill), but the Sanskrit Sacrifice in ToD just rubs me the wrong way. So I have no problem skipping them. I listen to a score like Temple of Doom to have fun, not to be haunted by those creepy voices! Lol But I do recognize their artistry. GerateWohl and ThePenitentMan1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I almost always skip the sacrifice cues as well. They don't add much of an experience to me, it's not that I find them annoying, but its mostly cause there's so many amazing cues waiting beyond it. If i do ever listen to them it's because i'm zoned out at work and forgot. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 It's great to listen to while sacrificing stuff! mstrox, Andy, Brando and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, Jay said: That's the problem, every cue on the OST is an important one! The problem is that every cue not on the OST is an important one too! 36 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I listen to a score like Temple of Doom to have fun, not to be haunted by those creepy voices! But it's such a fun kind of creepy! Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 It's a good track to play on its own, apart from the program. Just as an experimental piece of music. It's not meant to be pleasant! It's not the Temple of Joy! The unreleased choral bits when Mola Ram gives his speech to Jones are pretty awesome. But seriously, how the hell did Laurent Bouzerau, as even a passing enthusiast, allow the March into the complete End Titles go unreleased on the Concord set? That whole finale is a triumph. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Easy - disc 2 of the set is just all 11 tracks straight off the album master, with 13 additional cues added in between them in the form of 11 new tracks. Disc 5 was a last minute addition to the box where random cues were thrown onto, including Return To The Village as it was recorded with its clean ending ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Every OST needs one weird track. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's great to listen to while sacrificing stuff! I should've joined a fraternity in college for the sole purpose of using it on the new pledges. That drawn out high pitch wail that finishes out the track.... Is that supposed to be...? Willie Scott? The first sacrifice losing his mind? Mola Ram gettin' into it? A random worshipper possessed by Kali? Brando and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,348 Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Andy said: I should've joined a fraternity in college for the sole purpose of using it on the new pledges. That drawn out high pitch wail that finishes out the track.... Is that supposed to be...? Willie Scott? The first sacrifice loosing his mind? Mola Ram gettin' into it? A random worshipper possessed by Kali? 53 minutes ago, Bellosh said: I almost always skip the sacrifice cues as well. They don't add much of an experience to me They are important though, since they are referenced in the finale! Gabriel Bezerra, Andy, Manakin Skywalker and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Bellosh said: I almost always skip the sacrifice cues as well. They don't add much of an experience to me, it's not that I find them annoying, but its mostly cause there's so many amazing cues waiting beyond it. If i do ever listen to them it's because i'm zoned out at work and forgot. You don't render out your entire work playlist as a single audio track that's timed to precisely match the time between your breaks? Gabriel Bezerra and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I think the extra percussion and choral bits are terrifyingly cool. That's one of the highlights for me. Also, the released portion of Sanskrit Sacrifice turns 40 next month! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I don't know, I (usually) like demonic chanting in horror scores, especially stuff like The Omen or Hellraiser. But in ToD, which is supposed to be a "fun" action score filled with adventure, it gets a little jarring. In other words, when I listen to Temple of Doom I like to listen to the action cues and the adventure, so I'm not in the right mindset for something as horrific as Sanskrit Sacrifice. ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 29/3/2023 at 7:58 PM, Andy said: I was 12 years old in the theater, crying happy tears at the end of Temple of Doom. Happiest ending of the series. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: I don't know, I (usually) like demonic chanting in horror scores, especially stuff like The Omen or Hellraiser. But in ToD, which is supposed to be a "fun" action score filled with adventure, it gets a little jarring. In other words, when I listen to Temple of Doom I like to listen to the action cues and the adventure, so I'm not in the right mindset for something as horrific as Sanskrit Sacrifice. I always have to mute the audio in the scene where Mola Ram grabs Indy's breast because the chanting is too scary Andy and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I always have to mute the audio in the scene where Mola Ram grabs Indy's breast because the chanting is too scary That's a portion of an action cue, not a full cue. Those of us who leave out Sanskrit Sacrifice already know that that's where the chanting in Broken Bridge comes from; we just don't wanna have to listen to three or four minutes of it every time we listen to this score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: That's a portion of an action cue, not a full cue. Those of us who leave out Sanskrit Sacrifice already know that that's where the chanting in Broken Bridge comes from; we just don't wanna have to listen to three or four minutes of it every time we listen to this score! I feel like it's essential to the character of the score. How JW brings all these disparate styles into a cohesive whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,128 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 1/6/2021 at 8:42 AM, Amer said: The only thing that riles me about the Sanscript chants are the western performers- it still sounds like a westerner is trying to emulate the sound in their own western accent trying hard to be as accurate possible. Its a common problem when Hollywood tries to do the same for most Russian choral texts in scores. Such as the Hymn from HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER which my Russain speaking friends can barely makout what those lyrics are even saying. I cant make out exactly what they are chanting throughout in Sanskrit in 'Temple of Doom' cue but I do recognise some wordings which make sense: "Tum Hum saey mangta, Hum Tum se Mangta " which is (Sacrafice) "That which you want from us, And What we want from you" the rest are chanting "Mola Ram Sudh Ram, Jai Ram, Jai Ram" etc Does anyone have the cue's acual score sheet? Jay replied that the score sheet has leaked for decades. Anyone have just the lyrics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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