Indiana Jones is better than everything

[Faleel 5,359]

Gho-rham gho-rahm gho-rahm suda-rahm

[Jay 37,373]

22 minutes ago, Andy said:

the score sheet has leaked for decades.  Anyone have just the lyrics?

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

(page 7 / bars 28-31 are missing in the scan)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

That's JW's writing? How can anyone read it?

[Andy 4,141]

Der bleistift ist schmutzig. 

[Faleel 5,359]

1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

That's JW's writing? How can anyone read it?

Well for one thing, they are not reading it from a scan.

[Edmilson 7,473]

I imagine JW's career would be a lot shorter if he had bad calligraphy, like myself... lol

[Brando 1,864]

Well I for one have been chanting along very incorrectly for a long time

[Faleel 5,359]

2 minutes ago, Brando said:

Well I for one have been chanting along very incorrectly for a long time

Korah! Korah! Korah, Sutahmah!

[Andy 4,141]

Coram! Coram! Coram Soogorahm!

Hup hup hup! Jolly hup! Jolly hup!

It’s weird though… doesn’t Jones chant “Mola Ram Sundarum” when he’s in the black sleep?

 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

I'm pretty sure Mola Ram chants "Moldy Gelato! Moldy Gelato!"

[Faleel 5,359]

Audi delay!

[Brando 1,864]

1 hour ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Korah! Korah! Korah, Sutahmah!

Yes, except for some reason I hear something along the lines of 'sunya'

[Amer 2,117]

I did prepare the choral transcript using the leaked files that Jay shared. I'll post it up in a while. It is kinda aligned with e edited cue from the ost.

 

Should we get a C &C release in the future I wouldn't be surprised if  at least 3 or 4 alternate versions of it were included. 

[enderdrag64 624]

On 31/03/2023 at 1:40 PM, Naïve Old Fart said:

That's JW's writing? How can anyone read it?

That's the orchestrated score so it's not JW's handwriting, I don't have the cue offhand but I'm guessing it's probably Herb Spencer

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

Which language is used, on that cue?

[Brando 1,864]

8 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Which language is used, on that cue?

Sanskrit

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

Didn't JW use Sanskrit on "Duel Of The Fates"?

[Brando 1,864]

1 minute ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Didn't JW use Sanskrit on "Duel Of The Fates"?

Yes. There’s a couple words that sound similar in both cues.

[Bellosh 3,419]

Will there ever be a scene as good as the map room scene in a modern blockbuster?

[Edmilson 7,473]

No.

[Bellosh 3,419]

He literally just puts a stick in a hole in a sandy room and I'm still like 

[Edmilson 7,473]

3 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

He literally just puts a stick in a hole in a sandy room and I'm still like 

This was all it took for a major blockbuster to create a memorable scene: classic score, great direction and acting, belieavable special effects...

 

These days they all try to impress us with overlong CGI fights, and it rarely is as memorable. And I say that as someone who used to love the MCU.

[Bellosh 3,419]

1 minute ago, Edmilson said:

This was all it took for a major blockbuster to create a memorable scene: classic score, great direction and acting, belieavable special effects...

 

These days they all try to impress us with overlong CGI fights, and it rarely is as memorable. And I say that as someone who used to love the MCU.

 

If raiders was a marvel movie there would have been a faux awkward joke made by Sallah when helping Indy down in the map room. 

[Andy 4,141]

You’re 100% correct, and though I’m not the first to mention this, but even the chalkboard exposition scene (which sets up the Map Room) with Jones and Marcus schooling Musgrove and Eaton is endlessly watchable and entertaining.   
 

4 guys in suits, a chalkboard, and an old book. 
 

And so compelling every time, you’d never skip chapters. 

[Bellosh 3,419]

Chalkboard scene is the best scene in raiders and the greatest exposition scene of all time in any movie.

 

I always love how Marcus looks so proud of Indy getting so excited explaining it all 😁

[Brónach 1,302]

10 hours ago, Andy said:

You’re 100% correct, and though I’m not the first to mention this, but even the chalkboard exposition scene (which sets up the Map Room) with Jones and Marcus schooling Musgrove and Eaton is endlessly watchable and entertaining.   
 

4 guys in suits, a chalkboard, and an old book. 
 

And so compelling every time, you’d never skip chapters. 

 

the 7 minute part with the two scenes seems to be root of several different things in a section of Stargate (if not like half of the premise to start with), which in turn seems to be the origin of a section of Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and i find this fun for some reason

 

On 16/03/2023 at 1:41 AM, Edmilson said:

It feels so good that all this love for Ke Huy Quan reminded people of how much they loved Temple of Doom, after years of being considered a "lesser" film. 

 

i have a lot of complaints about this movie but the entire concept and execution of both Short Round and Willie is genius to me. i have to recognize the quality when i see it. it's odd that some people would complain about the kid and the lady.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

14 hours ago, Bellosh said:

He literally just puts a stick in a hole in a sandy room and I'm still like 

What Indy and Marion do in their private moments is their own business, and you shouldn't be spying on them. 

[Jay 37,373]

The first four Indiana Jones movies are coming to Disney Plus on May 31st

[Brando 1,864]

And “The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones”, as they’re calling it. But this wasn’t announced in the main announcement, it was a separate announcement a little bit later in the day. No idea when this is coming to D+, however.

[Jay 37,373]

Interesting!

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

30 minutes ago, Brando said:

And “The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones”, as they’re calling it. But this wasn’t announced in the main announcement, it was a separate announcement a little bit later in the day. No idea when this is coming to D+, however.

Really glad to see Young Indy come to streaming as it's a show I've wanted to watch for ages. The four volumes of music by Laurence Rosenthal and Joel McNeely are much treasured (one of the first times I realised that TV music could be as big in scope as that for film - obviously that gap is much narrower, if it exists at all, these days) and it'll be great to see the shows they go with. Will have to give the Talgorn scores that he put on YouTube another listen. Here's one to get you going!

[Brando 1,864]

It’s ironic because I just started watching them on YouTube for the first time a couple months ago and I could’ve waited just a few more months and they’d probably be better quality to watch

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

52 minutes ago, Brando said:

It’s ironic because I just started watching them on YouTube for the first time a couple months ago and I could’ve waited just a few more months and they’d probably be better quality to watch

I would assume there's no reason they couldn't be in HD as they're all made on film and presumably the effects were all model/matte paintings that were also made on film. Then again, I remember reading in one of my ILM books (I think) that they were early examples of digital matte paintings that had moving elements in them (smoke, moving clouds, sparkling water, moving vehicles etc.) rather than the classic static matte painting, so it's possible these wouldn't be HD.

[Andy 4,141]

Too bad they revised them and edited out "Old Indy".  Honestly, I never appreciated the show when it first aired, and never felt desire to come back to it.  It never felt like all the things I love about Indiana Jones.

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

Too bad they revised them and edited out "Old Indy".  Honestly, I never appreciated the show when it first aired, and never felt desire to come back to it.  It never felt like all the things I love about Indiana Jones.

It is a shame as I'd rather watch it as a series of 45 minute episodes than try to find time for 90 minute movies made up of vaguely connected episodes stitched together (which I think is what they did?!). I watched quite a few episodes when it was on UK TV (god knows what channel)  but can't I remember it in any meaningful sense. I don't think I assumed it would be anything like the movies, but still comprising globetrotting adventures.

[Brónach 1,302]

11 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

 90 minute movies made up of vaguely connected episodes stitched together (which I think is what they did?!).

 

whaaaaat this idea is awful

[mstrox 6,651]

They did the same thing with the old Ewoks and Droids cartoons at the time of home video release - same era - though they were split into their broadcast versions for their eventual Disney+ upload.

 

unfortunately, I have it on good authority that these are the “movie versions” coming to Disney+

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

27 minutes ago, Brónach said:

 

whaaaaat this idea is awful

OK, apparently they were filmed so that pairs of episodes could be broadcast together as a single longer episode so it was planned that way rather than a random re-editing. Still, I don't think they were done in a way that would hang together as a single movie. They did make a few TV movies after the series ended which one would expect that they hang together better.

 

18 minutes ago, mstrox said:

They did the same thing with the old Ewoks and Droids cartoons at the time of home video release - same era - though they were split into their broadcast versions for their eventual Disney+ upload.

 

unfortunately, I have it on good authority that these are the “movie versions” coming to Disney+

It's always the way isn't it... changes for the worse are made and we end up stuck with those versions as nobody wants to admit that, no, the revised versions weren't as good as the originals. As I said, I'd much rather watch them as 45 minute episodes than 90 minute movies that don't really function as "proper" movies.

 

Side note... the theme tune:

 

Started humming an Indy style theme, knew it wasn't the Young Indy theme, hummed the Young Indy theme. Yes definitely correct. So what's the other Indy style theme that feels absolutely ideal as a theme for Young Indy. Finally hits me. King Solomon's Mines by Jerry... in fairness, it would make an excellent theme for Young Indy. It always feels a bit repetitive when it appears in the movie but as a 90 second main theme, it would be perfect. I like Rosenthal's theme, but hey, it's Jerry... wonder whether JW was asked to write a theme or score the pilot/first episode or anything. Anyone know?!

[rough cut 1,714]

So it looks like Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny is coming to Disney+ on June 30. Can this be true?

[mstrox 6,651]

Nah, that article is about theatrical release dates

[rough cut 1,714]

Oh yeah.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

On 31/03/2023 at 6:03 PM, A Farewell to Kings said:

Gho-rham gho-rahm gho-rahm suda-rahm

 

Have you had a stroke, or something?

Geez.

[Brando 1,864]

5 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

As I said, I'd much rather watch them as 45 minute episodes than 90 minute movies that don't really function as "proper" movies.

100% agree with this. The show is fine but for 90 minutes it does begin to drag.

3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

Have you had a stroke, or something?

Geez.

This is how the novelization writes the lyrics. Is this what the actual music is heard?

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

That 'stitching together 2 episodes in order to make a movie' thing ... didn't they do the same with The Man From UNCLE back in the day? 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

Yes they did.

[Tallguy 3,401]

So they got rid of Old Indy. Does that mean they got rid of Less Old Indy? (Harrison Ford?)

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

I wonder if they'll retcon KOTCS?

[Andy 4,141]

They don’t have to. The Pancho Villa line in KOTCS was a reference to the show. 
 

[Amer 2,117]

If only the The Young Indiana Jones Complete scores were announced with all the unreleased episodes music. That's my Holy Grail! 

[mstrox 6,651]

Did Young Indy ever adapt any Williams material?