Popular Post Dr. Know 345 Posted June 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2023 Don't know if this New York Times article has been shared here, but here it is (my gift): https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/24/movies/john-williams-indiana-jones-dial-of-destiny.html?unlocked_article_code=80wcQSOOVSi4HIv5N7l4DFf7HscNSwr06N8eLKYHOOc4LJyo9p_irWXkgHY_gB7nbA81oAIKXpvnBFWFERngH4F28u8HA_58evP9cSDc-QhENy1QNdg_6-O5fJeMSgAfVhxFyELwFyuR-mw-8aJrQhns8BMRIGrslj9tfAHMA5b_G2LMRtsbxWW4xMc8qAfZRrDQ3JMm2WGW2hZ-X4XMvC_vMPkP33RylOj5Sl09_-DPNDoig44AU_T0DHVDfVR2ZnkyBPrP04zUojbg72eOU5fy7HAU-dA26LjuFvzQvvnc8zo4_Axi-G0H_oc1m8pxAeemKVTMUZaIaTIa9bG1HohIDAa-2fBG-i52H7Rlw1m_0wag&smid=url-share Bayesian, pete, Taikomochi and 8 others 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,430 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 NYT? Meh, it probably has a paywall. Can someone who actually pays for this shit copy and paste the content here? Taikomochi and TolkienSS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,630 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 The link is unlocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Courtney Sees Ghosts 274 Posted June 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2023 Scoring “The Rise of Skywalker” in 2019, after more than 40 years with “Star Wars,” Williams said he didn’t want it to be over. “My feeling was, ‘This is fun. Let’s go back and do nine more.’” Imagine if homie scores Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy and James Mangold's movies. LMFAO crumbs, Once, MikeH and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Know 345 Posted June 25, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2023 58 minutes ago, Edmilson said: NYT? Meh, it probably has a paywall. Can someone who actually pays for this shit copy and paste the content here? I gifted it to everyone here. Tydirium, Taikomochi and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,430 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr. Know said: I gifted it to everyone here. Yeah, I just saw it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,933 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Nice article--sounds like Williams was in a good mood when giving it. Nice to hear him talk just a little about How to Steal a Million. Courtney Sees Ghosts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 154 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Will anyone even dare to SAY NO to Williams, today? Helena's theme is great but could have been MORE 60's, you know, if the director had the guts to have comments on Williams' work. Richard Donner initially rejected Williams' theme for the villains. Williams wrote a new one. It seems to me that everyone praises Williams these days because he is JOHN WILLIAMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,206 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 I don’t disagree with you that directors should have the guts to express disagreement with Williams. But according to Mangold’s quote, in his opinion Williams ended up being right about the theme. Remember, it was Mangold who suggested that he perform it at the Hollywood Bowl 9 months early, which was basically unprecedented. Elsewhere, he has also been highly complimentary towards the score. It’s not like he has had beef with this theme this whole time, but held his tongue just because it’s John Williams; it seems to me that he actually loves Williams’ music for the film and is more than content with what he got from JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 154 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 52 minutes ago, Tydirium said: I don’t disagree with you that directors should have the guts to express disagreement with Williams. But according to Mangold’s quote, in his opinion Williams ended up being right about the theme. Remember, it was Mangold who suggested that he perform it at the Hollywood Bowl 9 months early, which was basically unprecedented. Elsewhere, he has also been highly complimentary towards the score. It’s not like he has had beef with this theme this whole time, but held his tongue just because it’s John Williams; it seems to me that he actually loves Williams’ music for the film and is more than content with what he got from JW. Yes, that's all true. I still think Helena's theme would fit better to Indy's love interest (woman closer to his age), than young female character in turbulent 60's. I'm curious how it works in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 JJ made williams change his music with a lot of alternates…aside from re-cuts and reshoots, maybe he asked for something different in some instances… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,933 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Darth Mulder said: Will anyone even dare to SAY NO to Williams, today? Helena's theme is great but could have been MORE 60's, you know, if the director had the guts to have comments on Williams' work. Richard Donner initially rejected Williams' theme for the villains. Williams wrote a new one. It seems to me that everyone praises Williams these days because he is JOHN WILLIAMS. I wanted to go radio-silence, but here I am. Mangold TOLD Williams to write a theme reminiscence of the 40s/50s, not the 60s. Why suggest that Williams is therefore out of step with the director after doing exactly what he was told to do? Mangold's comments likely have more to do with how the theme would be used in film with respect to other dimensions of her character, which Williams knew would not be a problem. ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,266 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 This was a really nice interview with the Maestro. 52 minutes ago, Tom said: I wanted to go radio-silence, but here I am. Mangold TOLD Williams to write a theme reminiscence of the 40s/50s, not the 60s. Why suggest that Williams is therefore out of step with the director after doing exactly what he was told to do? Mangold's comments likely have more to do with how the theme would be used in film with respect to other dimensions of her character, which Williams knew would not be a problem. 9 hours ago, Tydirium said: According to Mangold’s quote, in his opinion Williams ended up being right about the theme. Remember, it was Mangold who suggested that he perform it at the Hollywood Bowl 9 months early, which was basically unprecedented. Elsewhere, he has also been highly complimentary towards the score. It’s not like he has had beef with this theme this whole time, but held his tongue just because it’s John Williams; it seems to me that he actually loves Williams’ music for the film and is more than content with what he got from JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,568 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 He is going to grace us with a blockbuster theme / score at the age of 92 or more, isn't he? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,417 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Thanks for sharing that with us, @Dr. Know. (You sure "know" how to make a JW fan's day!) Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,035 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 17 hours ago, Tom said: Nice article--sounds like Williams was in a good mood when giving it. Nice to hear him talk just a little about How to Steal a Million. Indeed. But he neglected to mention that he had worked with John frickin' Ford many years before Wyler and HTSAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,630 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Not on a movie, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,035 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 I know. I was trying to be tabloid! mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,890 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 This doesn't really read like an Interview with Williams but rather like some collecting of random statements about his scores from Mangold, Matessino etc. and the Maestro himself. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,751 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Darth Mulder said: Will anyone even dare to SAY NO to Williams, today? John Williams is many things, but he's not a man you can say no to. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,038 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 The little anecdote about the Superman theme shouting “Superman” was neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,630 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Yeah, I wonder if he's confirming that occurred to him while composing or if in retrospect he agrees that's why it works. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 255 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 43 minutes ago, Brando said: The little anecdote about the Superman theme shouting “Superman” was neat. If I recall correctly this anecdote is actually very old. But still good. Donner was really enthusiastic about the score for sure. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,038 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, ricsim88 said: If I recall correctly this anecdote is actually very old. But still good. Donner was really enthusiastic about the score for sure. It is, I believe Donner mentions it in the Making Of documentary, and I remember asking if there was any truth about it being Williams idea in a pm thread here, and no one knew if it was or not, but I see this as a confirmation. ricsim88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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