King Mark 3,631 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 oh no,he didn't read my signature..,Memoirs of Geisha...WTF .I guess we'll never hear another version of Fawke's theme.Wait,is this Chinese July Fool's Day?K.M.Utterly bummed out. :cry: :cry: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I hope it is at least like chamber of secrets. He just scored the main themes untill the producers were dissatisfied with Williams Ross score.Heck, Williams did CMIYC, AOC and MR in 2002, he could do EPIII, Memoirs of a geisha and GOF.Unless Spielberg comes with artsy farty movie or was it The war of the Worlds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 It's worse Luke,read the main page.He's not scoring at all,and Ricard wouldn't write this unless it was 99% accurate.Friggen Memoirs of Geisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 :angryand it neither is a Spielberg movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Who will direct this movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Like I said in the GoF thread, if this is true it makes me both :cry: and . And you're right K.M., Ricard wouldn't post it if he wasn't sure. I think more people read this website than even we realize, and he knows the importance of accuracy.John- who might assist K.M. in his sig pic if this is true. But only after Ep. 3 is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 By the way, that link to the analysis of the Harry Potter scores doesn't work, what do I need to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 But only after Ep. 3 is done.Yes please.Because this time, it is Williams fault Did he said he loved the books? How can he dump the project so definately? I hope his health is good Luke, who doesnt care for HP but likes the Williams scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG-SI 10 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 HELL! Williams can score Geisha in a week and get an oscar nom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesie 1 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 This sucks. This really sucks. Can't he say he can't do one of the other 2005 movies due to sceduling conflicts and not GoF?? Maybe it's a joke... Maybe not... Maybe we'll get someone good to do the score.. But not like Johnny. I'm pissed. very. 8O 8O censored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Three Potters is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 No! That's not true! That's impossilbe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 This is a tragedy.Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I'm not surprised or disappointed. I'm rooting for James Newton Howard or Danny Elfman for his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Three Potters is enough.Could I have ever said that any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I agree. I think musically there might not be more he can do with the series. Plus, he has uunbreakable commitments to do Ep. 3 and anything Spielberg cranks out. I'm not upset. Though I hope Williams' replacement on HP doesn't do a rehash of themes.Jeff -- looking forward to Williams' work on "Geisha" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 banghead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 At least this way, Williams ends his stint with the HP films in a Seinfeldian way, not an X-Filean way.In other words, POA was JW at his top. Maybe GOF might have been even better. But at least now we'll never have to worry about it being a dissapointing or substandard score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 While the news is of course disappointing (I'd love to hear another Potter score written by John Williams), I don't see it as such a tragedy. Probably Williams has a very busy and full schedule for 2005: aside from Episode III, there's the Spielberg-directed Mossad project (which could come out in fall '05 as well) and, as the news has pointed out, probably even Memoirs of a Geisha. It's evident that Williams prefers to privilege his working relationship with Steven Spielberg more than any other thing in his life (and I think he's doing the damn right thing). Add to this the usual activity as concert conductor and we have a real full plate for Williams in the next months. It's sad that he will not continue to associate his name with the Harry Potter franchise, but probably he feels that doing different type of things is more stimulating, as an artist. And this is one of his strongest power in financially terms also: what other composer has the power, or even the mere possibility, to turn down a golden (both musically, but more importantly finacially) scoring assignment like Harry Potter 4?? Nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 There's never been a more disappointing bit of Williams-related news for me. But remember when he said himself a long time ago that he wasn't planning on scoring PoA? So maybe there's hope.Ray Barnsbury-at a loss for anything more to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I see this as non news at this point until we get confirmation. I was emailed by the same source as Ricard, and while it might be true, things have a way of working themselves out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 If he realizes how much this means to most of us, his most dedicated fans, maybe he'll change his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I see this as non news at this point until we get confirmation. I was emailed by the same source as Ricard, and while it might be true, things have a way of working themselves out.Well, it might be true, but also it might be not... Mm, maybe is a lot better to counter-verify and counter-counter-verify such a news before shouting out loud "WILLIAMS NOT DOING HP4" in the Main Page... right? Or maybe is even better to write "Williams MIGHT not doing HP4"... right? Maurizio -- who generally trusts Ricard's unnamed sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I'll be interested to see who replaces him. I'm hoping for Bruce Broughton.Of course, they could just track the fourth film with music from the first three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 What's the close source anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 It will remain undisclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesie 1 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I think GoF, assuming Williams isn't doing it, would have been one of his best scores ever... There was sooo much possibility in that score... Soooo many new themes... So many cool thematic elements... But I am HIGHLY skeptical over him not doing it... This is another huge movie in a huge series whereas Jurassic Park 3 was just a weak continuation of 2 great movies before it and he probably just didn't think it was gonna be that great of a movie - plus Steven Spielberg didn't direct it. Heck, I think if Williams is pressed for time, I think William Ross should be brought back to help with conducting and adapting. Or not. Hmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesie 1 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 OOHHH Yeeaaahh, Jim, Bruce Broughton.... That'd be a great replacement. He scored Homeward Bound I think... And that main theme in that is awesome!! James N. Howard did the most recent Peter Pan thing I think... It was almost new age but it was super perdy... Hey, how about Howard Shore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus 0 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 No Shore... his music is so boring.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 JNH would be a damn fine replacement, and my choice if it comes down to that. But JW not doing it is just unthinkable.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I really don't care who does it now. I'll buy it, I'll listen to it, I'll know that no matter what Williams would have done it better.John- wondering what the people in the HP forums that we got all the scarily ignorant quotes from are saying about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 No Shore, he wouldn't be appropriate. Elfman mostly sucks it seems. JNH is good, but I dunno how he would fit Potter (but then, I don't know enough by him yet).Marian - who thinks Broughton could do a very good job. Species (Christopher Young) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I really don't care who does it now. I'll buy it, I'll listen to it, I'll know that no matter what Williams would have done it better.John- wondering what the people in the HP forums that we got all the scarily ignorant quotes from are saying about this.Actualy the responces here all seem distressed. http://www.hpana.com/news.18220.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 We still believe! We still believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted July 17, 2004 Author Share Posted July 17, 2004 I had predicted Williams would quit after PoA,my crystal ball told me so.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Oh please, Divination is a load of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I JW doesn't do it, I hope Patrick Doyle gets the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Right then, you can head over to the "politically incorrect statements" thread now. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Don't you mean 'completely asinine'?Ray Barnsbury-kidding . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Film Score Monthly Message Board,]Our sources are Carter Armstrong, director of music at Warner Brothers, and Conrad Pope, Williams orchestrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Does anybody else realise that John Williams is (finally) back on top of his game, more inspired and energised than ever, and feels the desire to score a foreign-themed / religious drama? I reckon we should all embrace that. We don't want him to score another magic kids' film if it means he is becoming slightly disinterested. Yes it would have been excellent had he still been fully interested, but even so, I think it's time for a bit of change on all our parts.His final Star Wars score, Memoirs of a Geisha, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, War of the Worlds and Indiana Jones IV... I'd rather he focussed on each of those, creating excellent and probably Oscar-nominated/winning scores to add to his name, than substitute the quality of any of them for a half-hearted Goblet score.But alas, sad news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Indiana Jones IVLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Oh and I'm just incredibly thankful that he's "dropped" Goblet to score another film. Can you imagine the mass worrying across the world if there was no scheduling conflict? It'd sound like his 70-odd years are starting to catch up with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Thanks for the sources, Alan. Several of the people in that thread seem quite optimistic about the situation. *sigh*Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Oh and I'm just incredibly thankful that he's "dropped" Goblet to score another film. Can you imagine the mass worrying across the world if there was no scheduling conflict? It'd sound like his 70-odd years are starting to catch up with him...Williams doesn't have to drop Goblet of Fire to prove that he's still musically active. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Thanks for ruining my day... I hope it is like PoA, and he changes his mind. Hell, I'd rather something like CoS again than no Williams score at all. GoF is guaranteed to be a hit, but this Memoirs of Geisha (apart from sounding like one of JK Rowling's false titles for book 7) may not. We'll see... And we'll hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Goodbye, Potter fans, so looooong !And I'll be the first one to welcome you all back the moment you like Williams and his music. ----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEfighter 0 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Well, :cry: However, I can understand Williams´ decision not to score too many films at the same time...I think now, that the end of his career is coming closer, he´d rather like to write 5 excellent scores than maybe 10 not so excellent ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Thanks for ruining my day... I hope it is like PoA, and he changes his mind. Hell, I'd rather something like CoS again than no Williams score at all. GoF is guaranteed to be a hit, but this Memoirs of Geisha (apart from sounding like one of JK Rowling's false titles for book 7) may not. We'll see... And we'll hope...So you only care for a Williams score if it comes from a hit film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I dunno why, but I would really want to see Basil Poledouris scoring this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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