Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jay said: That's gotta be the latest placement of a concert arrangement in an album program until The Force Awakens. The first one that jumped into my head was "Hedwig's Theme" being the last track on the Sorcerer's Stone OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 That was written for the end credits though EDIT: Oh, maybe it wasn't. It was used in the end credits though... though I suppose Sherzo for X-Wings was as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Got the CD for Animal House (which as it turns out only has a couple of 45 second tracks worth of score. Straight to the trash it goes!), Powaqqaisi, and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jay said: That was written for the end credits though Are you sure? I thought the end credits cue was "Harry's Wondrous World" (track 2 on the OST). The "Hedwig's Theme" track I thought was the concert arrangement which of course begins with the celeste. EDIT: Just saw your edit, Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: That was written for the end credits though EDIT: Oh, maybe it wasn't. It was used in the end credits though... though I suppose Sherzo for X-Wings was as well. Williams has always been putting album/concert arrangements on his albums. He's just also been using them in the film credits since (at least) the late 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Williams has always been putting album/concert arrangements on his albums. He's just also been using them in the film credits since (at least) the late 90s. Johnny is one of the rare few who do this. Lucky for us. Or unlucky like with KotCS where Raiders March could have been easily replaced with 5 more minutes of the actual score (I don't know perhaps the full Jungle Chase or something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 For all this talk of how brilliant Williams is as a FILM composer i must say that in quite a few cases i don't particular care for his scores but the concert versions. Often they comprise in 4 to 6 minutes the best the score proper has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yet he sometimes makes some really bizarre musical/editorial choices in those. Especially in the ones prepared for concerts. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 eg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Flight to Neverland. The concert version of War Horse and Jedi Steps and Finale.. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, crocodile said: Flight to Neverland. The concert version of War Horse and Jedi Steps and Finale.. Karol Wait, what's wrong with the concert version of Jedi Steps and Finale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: Wait, what's wrong with the concert version of Jedi Steps and Finale? Poe's theme. Sounds awkward. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I strongly disagree. I love the extended take on it in the concert arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I disrespectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement with my original disagreeing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, crocodile said: Flight to Neverland. The concert version of War Horse and Jedi Steps and Finale.. Karol Ups...haven't even heard of those. I meant the ones he puts on the albums. There are a lot of them (post mid 90's especially) were the music tends to be sketchy (short cues connected, few properly developed pieces) and the concert versions kind of 'save' them ('Sabrina', 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Book Thief', 'Stepmom', 'Angela's Ashes', 'Lincoln'). Has to do with the kind of movies he had there but i still find it noticeable that he often struggles with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, publicist said: Ups...haven't even heard of those. I meant the ones he puts on the albums. There are a lot of them (post mid 90's especially) were the music tends to be sketchy (short cues connected, few properly developed pieces) and the concert versions kind of 'save' them ('Sabrina', 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Book Thief', 'Stepmom', 'Angela's Ashes', 'Lincoln'). Has to do with the kind of movies he had there but i still find it noticeable that he often struggles with them. I find that he did amazing job with e.g. Angela's Ashes considering how most of the cues in the film are so short. That album flows quite well in my opinion and often enough JW found ways to combine cues into longer pieces that really work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 What's awkward about the extended version of Poe's Theme when he does the TFA end credits live? Sounds perfectly normal to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, Incanus said: I find that he did amazing job with e.g. Angela's Ashes considering how most of the cues in the film are so short. That album flows quite well in my opinion and often enough JW found ways to combine cues into longer pieces that really work. It's very repetitive - most cues just repeat a few core ideas in very similar fashion (y'know, theme A, theme B, theme A whereas in the next cue the order is switched to B, A, B). Not a particularly convincing case for musical development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 17 hours ago, Bespin said: At last!!! How's the sound? I've heard it's supposed to be remastered. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: How's the sound? I've heard it's supposed to be remastered. Bof, that's a 1990 CD... that is re-re-re-reissued in Japan since, because of it's "rarity", as the US CD always had only 14 tracks. It don't match the sound of the most recent releases, like the Rhino one and even more the Superman Box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, publicist said: Ups...haven't even heard of those. I meant the ones he puts on the albums. There are a lot of them (post mid 90's especially) were the music tends to be sketchy (short cues connected, few properly developed pieces) and the concert versions kind of 'save' them ('Sabrina', 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Book Thief', 'Stepmom', 'Angela's Ashes', 'Lincoln'). Has to do with the kind of movies he had there but i still find it noticeable that he often struggles with them. Of the album ones? Probably the second climax of Duel of the Fates sticks out. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 New Noel Gallagher. Get it in your ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 In short: That's what I recently bought: That's what I will buy soon: That's what I'm gonna buy anytime later: That's what I will buy if I find it for a reasonable price: That's the OSTs I'm sooner or later gonna buy: That's the OSTs that I don't own, but will never buy, since waiting for a proper release is smarter: Bespin and Ollie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Impressive. I got got carried away yesterday and spent some money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Another essential item to add to my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Picked up a copy of this from my local HMV yesterday: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Oh it's full of colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 This year again thanks To John Williams, Charles Aznavour and Roy Orbison's sons to have released items relatively in the same time, allowing me to make each time orders that qualifies for a discount on the sending fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The Holy Grail... at last. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 With my favorite version (of the three that I've encountered) of "Last Pitch", with its earliest entrance of the choir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Haven't posted here for way too long to catch up with past purchases, but my latest MM.com order finally arrived today: E.T. The Haunting Sky Captain Waterworld The Black Swan (Alfred Newman) Peyton Place/Hemingway's Adventures of a Young Man (Waxman) Of course, they're all talking a back seat while I'm mostly busy listening to The Last Jedi (my own copy shipped today, but I've "borrowed" FLACs from a friend for the meantime). And with a bit of luck, CE3K and Co might arrive from SoundtrackCorner before Christmas, if they get everything from my order in stock in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Ben-Hur original score recording, Sony longbox 2010 - two last copies at Amazon for £7.40 each. Love a bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 ...and you're going to love the score It's probably Rozsa's masterpiece. It's a pity that the Blu ray iso is not in 5.1, but it's a stunning piece or work, nonetheless. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Richard said: ...and you're going to love the score It's probably Rozsa's masterpiece. It's a pity that the Blu ray iso is not in 5.1, but it's a stunning piece or work, nonetheless. Enjoy. Have had the score for a long time already, but not the longbox version. It's indeed great. Anyone who can comment on the sound quality of Sony's 2010 release compared to the 5 CD FSM box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2nd hand for a massive €2.99 Necessary to go alongside the new expanded edition which I hope to pick up in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 It might actually be all you need. The majority of the expanded material is mostly synths. I think even the orchestral bits are synths. Just so you know. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Oh yeah? Tis a Horner epic though! I'll listen to the OST a few times over Xmas and decide if I need more. Happy to support it if it means more Horner releases but they seem to do that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I'm enjoying the expansion nonetheless. But just warning you in case you want more orchestral splendour. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 A few years ago yeah but I’ve gotten used to Horner’s synths and have come to appreciate them more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Bought the Deluxe Edition of Back to the Future III a few days ago. Won't be getting 1 and 2 as they aren't complete enough to justify spending these amounts of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 My Justice League OST arrived from Amazon last Friday, and my Last Jedi OST arrived from Amazon this past Friday Thinking about cobbling together an order of the last round of specialty label stuff I don't have yet - Damnation Alley, The Russia House, The Haunting, Ferdinand... maybe one or two more I'm forgetting at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Oh yeah, I bought the Last Jedi in town on Friday obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The last two film score purchases of the year... very fine couple of 2017 scores (should be here tomorrow or Thursday): Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I like that Shape of Water score. Does The Snowman take Beltrami out of his comfort zone at all, or is it similar to his other most popular scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I would say one of his strongest works in general. It's somewhere between Herrmann and Elfman but with an icy Scandinavian patina (probably due to the presence of Hardangar fiddle). It's surprisingly listenable and classy score for a massive turd of a film. The album is about 49 minutes long so it never really outstays its welcome. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Sweet, adding it to my list of 2017 scores I need to check out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, crocodile said: The album is about 49 minutes long so it never really outstays its welcome. It does - but still among 2017's Top Ten (easily). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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