Holko 9,526 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It's good. You're allowed to prefer the CE3K OST, as wrong as it may be, and I can take Escapades over the OST, deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Star Wars: The Last Jedi by John Williams: I like this score on the OST album but love it in expanded form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Holko said: It's good. You're allowed to prefer the CE3K OST, as wrong as it may be, and I can take Escapades over the OST, deal? The difference being that preferring Escapades, one of Williams' finest translations from film score to concert hall, is a perfectly reasonable stance to me, compared to your continued hazing of my love for John Williams' original musical vision for Close Encounters! So the deal's off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 CE3K is a good OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: John Williams' original musical vision for Close Encounters! You mean Disc 1 of the LLL, which approximates the original 2LP OST Williams intended to release before Arista talked him out of it at the last moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Holko said: You mean Disc 1 of the LLL, which approximates the original 2LP OST Williams intended to release before Arista talked him out of it at the last moment? Yes, that one!--..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Muppet Christmas Carol by Paul Williams and Miles Goodman North Star by John Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,715 Posted November 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2018 Lost: The Final Season by Michael Giacchino: This and The Last Episodes discs feature some of the best music of the show and everything really comes together wonderfully with ever a steady flow of new ideas wedded into the already impressive collection of themes and motifs. Slight lack of development of ideas like Jacob's theme is the only small complaint I have as Giacchino seems to be happy to repeat these ideas in the same form ad infinitum, only ever elaborating on their orchestrations but not their form, although I think this is entirely out of conscious planning and musical characterization rather than pure oversight. Listening to this music always reminds me how distinct this scoring is, so instantly recognizable in style and orchestrations and its dramatic language developed over 6 seasons. Surely one of the composer's biggest accomplishments. crocodile, Jay and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Avengers: Infinity War by Alan Silvestri Ice Age: Continental Drift by John Powell Going through a bunch of Powell scores this week. Great listening thus far. On November 12, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Incanus said: Star Wars: The Last Jedi by John Williams: I like this score on the OST album but love it in expanded form. It is a very good OST, as far as narrowing things down onto an album. The expanded form is the real deal though, yes. Fantastic stuff that wasn't on the OST, so yes. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Ice Age: Continental Drift by John Powell Going through a bunch of Powell scores this week. Great listening thus far. I love Sirens! Dawn of the Dinosaurs is probably my favorite of his Ice Age trilogy, but they're all fun listenin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Jaws by John Williams Jaws 2 by John Williams Midnight Run by Danny Elfman Black Beauty by Danny Elfman Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Fancyarcher said: Jaws by John Williams Jaws 2 by John Williams Midnight Run by Danny Elfman Black Beauty by Danny Elfman Way to rep Vermont JWFans, Archer, that's a solid list! Come to think of it, does that mean JWFans make up half the population of Vermont? Fancyarcher and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,511 Posted November 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just came in the post. I think I know what score I'll be listening to this evening! Nick Parker, Brundlefly and Incanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: Way to rep Vermont JWFans, Archer, that's a solid list! Come to think of it, does that mean JWFans make up half the population of Vermont? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 And In The Endless Pause Came The Sound Of The Bees by Johann Johannsson Prisoners by Johann Johannsson Arrival by Johann Johannsson Just one of those days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The complete score for Star Trek Generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Dracula by John Williams. My first listen of the new set. Karol Incanus and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Loert said: Just came in the post. I think I know what score I'll be listening to this evening! Tell me, if there were any revelations, like a cue that is much more impressive compositionally than one thought without the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Dracula by John Williams Lacks the precision of The Fury, meanders quite a bit more. I do enjoy its ‘filler’ cues for the atmosphere they build, but a lot of the music’s moving without much of a purpose. Still, complete score remains better listening than the noisy album. I like this score, even if its lack of a drive or narrative only leave me to want to put on The Fury instead when I want to hear Williams’ horror chops. Jaws 2 by John Williams Now this is more like it! Keep the album though, complete score is pretty choppy. Balto by James Horner Hot diggety, am I happy to have this in good sound at last. I crave to hear the Fievel scores get this treatment someday, but I assume that’s not destined to happen especially soon. Ah well, this’ll do. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 The third of Horner's 'slick' 1995 scores still makes me wonder what his temp for the hymnal main theme was, as the melodic line is very unusual for the composer (recalling a pop song i cannot remember). It also was around the time when Horner became much more bold in his self-plagiarizing, which brings the score down several notches, as much of the minimalist underscore is barely disguised 'Sneakers' (that one was a real idiomatic innovation in 1992). More noteworthy are the big jingoistic set pieces - 'The Launch' and the prolonged finale of the whole re-entry and the end titles with Annie Lennox warbling the theme over a pop-backing track - which sound like Horner waited all his professional life to come up with them: with their religious allusions they're as showy as any big Williams repertoire piece and he must have felt elated to get those in a highly visible movie (subtle they ain't, of course). Of the Howard/Horner collaboration i still vastly prefer 'Cocoon' but for its shiny blockbuster gloss i concede that A13 probably deserves the top spot. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Maybe it was Steve Bramson? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 The Nativity Story by Mychael Danna Chinatown by Jerry Goldsmith Stepmom by John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, publicist said: The third of Horner's 'slick' 1995 scores still makes me wonder what his temp for the hymnal main theme was, as the melodic line is very unusual for the composer (recalling a pop song i cannot remember). Almost certainly this was behind much of the tone, no? Likely my favorite of his scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Nah, there was a pop song which was a dead ringer for that theme: 3 minutes ago, TGP said: Likely my favorite of his scores. No way, much too populist and syrupy to hold that place, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Oh the trumpet tune. No ideas there, other than a warmer take on the classic Copland. I can make no claims as to whether or not its his best score of course, but favorite, yeah, it is here. For me Horner is like Newman. There's much overlap between scores, and you can hear recurring ideas getting tried out in different ways. You sort of pick your favorite package. Populist, syrupy, maybe, but I have lots of time for this rather tightly composed and no note gone to waste score. Many fond memories of stoned listening. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 39 minutes ago, TGP said: Many fond memories of stoned listening. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 hours ago, TGP said: Oh the trumpet tune. No ideas there, other than a warmer take on the classic Copland. I can make no claims as to whether or not its his best score of course, but favorite, yeah, it is here. For me Horner is like Newman. There's much overlap between scores, and you can hear recurring ideas getting tried out in different ways. You sort of pick your favorite package. Populist, syrupy, maybe, but I have lots of time for this rather tightly composed and no note gone to waste score. Many fond memories of stoned listening. Sure, it's also exceptionally polished (no mean feat). For stoned listening i still would prefer something more inwards and contemplative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Jaws 3-D - Alan Parker I'm growing fond of Parker's themes for this movie. There is something about his themes that have suck in my head after listening, and I'm humming them through the day. I'm a fan of the quieter sections of the score, more-so than the action cues. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Love the Seaworld music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Dracula (Varese Deluxe Edition) by John Williams: Finally a release worthy of this great score! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs by John Powell Lincoln by John Williams ...oh, and how can you not want to play the first act of music of The Empire Strikes Back by John Williams when you look out the window and see this: Taikomochi and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 23 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Tell me, if there were any revelations, like a cue that is much more impressive compositionally than one thought without the book. I guess the main revelation for me was seeing just how widely that beginning motif in the horns is used throughout the score. I didn't really pay attention to it before seeing the notes on paper, but it's everywhere. One thing I found peculiar was the voicing of that last "kiss" chord towards the end of "A New Life" (the loud one here at 2:08). I always thought that it felt incomplete in some way, or at least that it made the music feel that it was still heading somewhere. Well, I think I finally know why. Typically, with tutti orchestral chords, the rule is that the brass, wind and strings fill out the entire pitch range on their own (so, if you were to isolate the brass, you would have the trumpets at the top, and the tuba playing the bass note, with trombones and horns in between - you wouldn't just have the trombones playing, for instance). In this case, Goldsmith had the wind and brass play the full range, but he leaves a big gaping hole in the mid-range of the strings. Basically, the violins play A#4 C#5 F#5, the basses play F#0, and the cellos play F#1. That's it! There's nothing in between F#1 and A#4 - that's over three octaves. The violists aren't even playing anything at that moment, even though they were playing during the crescendo a few seconds prior. What this does I suppose is give the brass and wind more dominance over the chord sound, and it seems to give the chord a more organic feel, than if you just had the entire string section playing as well. I've never seen anything like it - usually you might see just the high strings playing, or just the low strings - but not the high and low with a gaping hole in the middle (though I believe Stravinsky may have done stuff like that...) Brundlefly and SteveMc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 The Terminal OST Quite charming and enjoyable, if a bit repetitive presentation. Gets the Southeast-European feel adequately when needed. The dark invasion cue in the beginning possibly could have set up a mood from which all the goofy easyness needs to build up, without it it feels a bit aimless at times. Some very nice and diverse orchestrations - cimbalom! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Far From Home: Adventures of Yellow Dog by John Scott Possibly my favorite adventure score of the 1990's. A top shelf favorite for yours truly, from any composer of any era. A rare score of any kind where I adore every single cue. Truly a grand, glorious and invigorating listening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs by John Powell Lincoln by John Williams ...oh, and how can you not want to play the first act of music of The Empire Strikes Back by John Williams when you look out the window and see this: I hope you didn't have a "battle in the snow" on your way out. No dodging of AT-ATs or having to trudge through snow banks? No hiding in Tauntaun's innards to survive? Dracula (Varese Deluxe Edition) by John Williams: Again. I just revel in the Gothic romance of this work and now in sound quality I only dared to dream of in the years past while listening to the old OST album. The new set has plenty of highlights admittedly many of which were on the original soundtrack album but now the whole thing feels much more complete as a musical journey with more variety and shades than before. I think I love both this and The Fury for their different but equally powerful takes on horror genre, which as publicist said in his lengthy first listen comments are made all the more special since Williams didn't dabble in the genre more after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Incanus said: ...equally powerful takes on horror genre, which Williams didn't dabble in the genre more after this. Well, there were the Prequels Oh, no! You know Christmas is just around the corner, when Inky dons his red cloak, and pointy hat! 12 hours ago, MrJosh said: Jaws 3-D - Alan Parker I'm growing fond of Parker's themes for this movie. There is something about his themes that have suck in my head after listening, and I'm humming them through the day. I'm a fan of the quieter sections of the score, more-so than the action cues. Mr. Josh, I think you mean "stuck" Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Richard said: Oh, no! You know Christmas is just around the corner, when Inky dons his red cloak, and pointy hat! Ho ho ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Incanus said: Ho ho ho! I spend so much time with bantering millennials at work that my brain reads it as "Hoe! Hoe! Hoe!".😏 The Fury (OST). One of the better assembled Williams albums out there. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Ho ho ho! Now I have a machine gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard said: Now I have a machine gun. 2 hours ago, crocodile said: I spend so much time with bantering millennials at work that my brain reads it as "Hoe! Hoe! Hoe!".😏 The Fury (OST). One of the better assembled Williams albums out there. Karol Yeah I think Monsignor is equally well put together OST assembly but The Fury is special because it was specifically re-recorded. The Epilogue alone is worth the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Creed II by Ludwig Goransson Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Incanus said: I hope you didn't have a "battle in the snow" on your way out. No dodging of AT-ATs or having to trudge through snow banks? No hiding in Tauntaun's innards to survive? Thank you for your consideration. All things well here, no problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Lush 1970's John Williams goodness: Dracula The Fury Family Plot Black Sunday Jaws 2 It's a most wonderful period in his career. Isn't it wonderful that virtually everything from 1975-1979 is now available in expanded/complete form? Karol Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The best thing of the seventies remains me! 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Ah yes, that typical French pride. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I'm not french I'm an American... who speak french! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 That's not a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 You are from Ontario, you know us, but other people think that in Québec we are more french than american, that's totally false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I haven't done this in a while but it's a habit, so I'll get it out of the way. Separatist! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 King Kong Lives, Gets Laid, Has a Kid and Then Dies by John Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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