Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Incanus said: I was thinking of Bilbo. He wants both. You will do them both and in chronological order and you’ll hurry the damn hell up with both of them!! bollemanneke, Incanus, Josh500 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Bilbo said: You will do them both and in chronological order and you’ll hurry the damn hell up with both of them!! Why you treating Inky like your very own Dobby? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 12:11 PM, Josh500 said: Indeed! LLL is a great label and they do amazing, wonderful work, but I wish they'd step up quality control! These days, you feel lucky when one of their sets arrives undamaged.... But this should be the rule rather than the exception! I've had 3 scratched disk so far from LLL :Lost in Space 2.c.d., JP disk 2 and HP disk 7 I've had zero scratched disks from other labels and store bought c.d.'s in my lifetime Do the get their c.d's in a pile from the pressing plant and assemble them afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 10:48 AM, King Mark said: I've had 3 scratched disk so far from LLL :Lost in Space 2.c.d., JP disk 2 and HP disk 7 I've had zero scratched disks from other labels and store bought c.d.'s in my lifetime Do the get their c.d's in a pile from the pressing plant and assemble them afterwards? You mean really bad, noticeable scratches that possibly affect the music itself? Or very light hairline scratches? Right now I don't recall ever having received scratched CDs from LLL, but plenty of broken teeth, broken cases, and crumpled, scuffed or even torn (at least the edges) booklets! I have never asked for a replacement from LLL, by the way. And I feel lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 The final rendition of Hedwig’s theme in PoA: why does it sound like it intentionally suffers from a drop in momentum in the climax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 yeah that's the first thing I noticed, I thought it was a damaged master tape but people are saying it's recorded that way (if were talking about the same thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 If you're referring to the bit just before the final 'stabs' come in right at the end where it feels for a mjoment like the music has stopped, I'd say it was just recorded that way. Not a performance I like much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Richard Penna said: If you're referring to the bit just before the final 'stabs' come in right at the end where it feels for a mjoment like the music has stopped, I'd say it was just recorded that way. Not a performance I like much. Agreed. A strange orchestration/mixing decision which sort of robs part of the triumphant dazzling energy from the finale which was to be the final for Williams in the entire series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Timestamp? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6:53/54 ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Oh, that just adds a crescendo to that otherwise repetitive section, giving a new dimension to it! I like it. bollemanneke and Molly Weasley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 It makes it feel like his broomstick stopped working for five seconds. BLUMENKOHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 HPSS Teaser is the best recording of that bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Nah, it's too sloppy and dead there, too dry and not versatile enough. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Totally random observation: it just struck me how freaking original The Courtyard is as a score cue. I had always thought it was source music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Fascinating to hear a different take on that HT passage, but yeah, I'm not a fan of that decision. The SS performance is a clear winner for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Should I bother getting this set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Totally random observation: it just struck me how freaking original The Courtyard is as a score cue. I had always thought it was source music. It is source music. There is a character on screen playing a recorder during the scene. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Oh. Strange that it ended up in the score presentation in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Faleel J.M. said: It makes it feel like his broomstick stopped working for five seconds. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Faleel J.M. said: It makes it feel like his broomstick stopped working for five seconds. I hate it when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Should I bother getting this set? YES! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 There's too much music! Once and Faleel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Should I bother getting this set? It's so freaking good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: There's too much music! ...to paraphrase Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The dynamic range of this set is truly above average, I'd say. Were the leaked sessions even more extreme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 HPPS was pretty quiet overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 9:24 PM, bollemanneke said: Oh. Strange that it ended up in the score presentation in that case. 'Cast a Christmas Spell', 'Fluffy's Harp Lullaby' and 'Double Trouble' are also source music. Personally, I prefer it in the score presentation If it fits into the body of the score. I've placed 'A Winter's Spell' after 'The Snowball Fight', it fits perfect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Oh, agreed, I put all the HP3 source music in the main program as well. Never understood why one should make a distinction between score and source music for this score, especially when it's done inconsistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Oh, agreed, I put all the HP3 source music in the main program as well. Never understood why one should make a distinction between score and source music for this score, especially when it's done inconsistently. Did you need to edit tracks to achieve this? I agree though. Unlike with most Williams scores, the 3 source tracks after the end credits are noticeably incongruous. POA is such an eccentric blend of diegetic and non-diegetic music that relegating a selection of source to the bonuses doesn't sit right; I can totally understand how mixing the source into the score would enhance the presentation rather than distract. It's inconsistently applied anyway; the flute source was included in the film presentation, the shawm source was omitted entirely, the music box was relegated to the extras despite an equivalent track being included in the film presentation for PS, etc. Holko and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Yes, making a chronological presentation does require some editing and unfortunately, a few cues don't have clean openings (this doesn't apply to the source music). I couldn't agree more with everything you said about the presentation. I wish we'd know which of these choices were MM's or JW's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Does it matter as long as JW approved the whole presentation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 It's safe to say omitting shawm was a Williams directive, considering 'insignificant' cues like That's A Lie! were included. And yeah, I figured editing would be required for the POA source. I can imagine the music box source would actually work really well sandwiched between the alternate Up the Stairs and The Snowball Fight (no editing required there, as the alternate is already placed at the end of Walk in the Woods and Bird's Flight, and it's chronological for Williams' original intentions). A Winter's Spell sandwiched between The Snowball Fight and The Three Broomsticks would work pretty well, I reckon. Certainly better than inserting it halfway through the latter track via editing. Placing the three source cues from The Wizards' Consort would be the trickiest. Not necessarily the first cue but rather the latter two. They can't be inserted cleanly anywhere as Matessino sadly crossfaded the two cues comprising The Three Broomsticks. 9 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Does it matter as long as JW approved the whole presentation? Well, he approved the first LLL expansion of Hook and, in hindsight, that release is a bit of a mess (arguably more for technical reasons than 'creative' ones). bollemanneke and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I solved the Three Broomsticks problem by having UTS fade out and TTB fade in. Sure, you don't really have complete openings and endings, but it's much better than nothing. Once and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I just placed Wizard's Consort between Winter's Spell and 3 Broomsticks. Apart from the cues around DT being too memorable in film order, I love all cue combinations, and even those I pretty much understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Yeah, despite thinking some of those combinations would annoy me, I haven't actually gone back and changed anything yet (not even the editing mistake at the end of Saving Buckbeak). All in good time though After all, a wizard is never late. He edits his scores precisely when he means to. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I don't have a problem with Saving Buckbeak at all. I agree that most of the combinations work brilliantly as a music-only experience, they just don't work when you think about the movie while listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 There's a tiny editing flub right before the transition to the insert Bats revision. Once you've heard it, it can't be unheard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Take something like Three Broomsticks or Portrait Gallery: if you didn't know, would you be able to tell they're a combination or partly an alternate of the neighbouring cue? I don't think so. Oh yeah, maybe the repetition in Boggarts bothers me, too. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, crumbs said: editing mistake at the end of Saving Buckbeak What mistake is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What mistake is that? For some weird reason, about 5 'frames' of music are repeated before the revised Bats insert begins, around 9:28. The alternate (original version in the bonus section) is unaffected though, so it's easy enough to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 It seems MM hit CTRL+V one time too many. The Illustrious Jerry and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I still struggle to notice it, so it's not like horrific and un-musical. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Yeah, let's listen to the music, not for the faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2306363829428720&id=111384242260034&refid=17&_ft_=mf_story_key.2306363829428720%3Atop_level_post_id.2306363829428720%3Atl_objid.2306363829428720%3Acontent_owner_id_new.111384242260034%3Athrowback_story_fbid.2306363829428720%3Acall_to_action_type.MESSAGE_PAGE%3Apage_id.111384242260034%3Aphoto_id.2306363636095406%3Astory_location.4%3Astory_attachment_style.photo%3Apage_insights.{"111384242260034"%3A{"role"%3A1%2C"page_id"%3A111384242260034%2C"post_context"%3A{"story_fbid"%3A2306363829428720%2C"publish_time"%3A1550770202%2C"story_name"%3A"EntStatusCreationStory"%2C"object_fbtype"%3A266}%2C"actor_id"%3A111384242260034%2C"psn"%3A"EntStatusCreationStory"%2C"sl"%3A4%2C"dm"%3A{"isShare"%3A0%2C"originalPostOwnerID"%3A0}%2C"targets"%3A[{"page_id"%3A111384242260034%2C"actor_id"%3A111384242260034%2C"role"%3A1%2C"post_id"%3A2306363829428720%2C"share_id"%3A0}]}}%3Athid.111384242260034%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1551427199%3A2413785215346152820&__tn__=*W-RCongratulations to Jay, MM and everyone else involved. Still amazing to have it on my shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 It has been posted already, of course. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29229-2018-ifmca-award-nominations-update-winners-announced/&do=findComment&comment=1585689 But thank you very much! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Was there ever a doubt that it would win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 FSM just reviewed this set: ***** . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 As far as sequencing and inclusion goes, I have only developed some dislike for the Diagon Alley track: as cool and interesting as the full, original, bigger, unleaked reveal is, its playoff completely overpowers the first few seconds of the Alley material. I'm not sure how I would've handled it, possibly including the first, imperfect leaked take for curiosity's sake and to show the final intent after the new segment was presumably discarded - looking at the other two sets, different takes have been included for much less obvious or "good" reasons. It's not even the track itself I dislike, just the fact that there is no alternative included that presents a segment of it much better, as comprehensive as this collection is. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted February 27, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2019 I proposed including that cue again on disc 3 without the Reveal Insert edited in, but it didn't happen. bollemanneke, Holko and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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