[Music theory question]

I love those kind of threads!!!!

 

I am just trying to analyze The Rise of Skywalker and am having a hard time with this section (2:26-2:41):

 

This insert is mainly based around a Bsus4 chord, quite simple:

 

 

But then, the high woodwinds and later trumpets come in with a little phrase:

 

Aside from heavy errors in the sheet music for this section, I found it very difficult to transcribe this section and find an explanation for the harmonic processes, including the chord symbols.

 

As has been said, adding chord symbols to Williams' music is often very difficult, so does it make sense here, and are the chords I have labeled reasonably correct?

 

 

The places I also have problems with:

- bar 66 (now with D as tonic): Does it make sense to label this as Em11 over D or just keep it as D5(add69) but now with an added sus4? 

- last quarter note of m.66: Dmaj7? I mean, we have the F# in three places there, so technically it's not D5 anymore, but they are all on weak beats only for a short time. For the overall context of the whole phrase would this count as Dmajor or D5?

[Theme from "Angela's Ashes" - Sheet Music]

11 minutes ago, pete said:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the official sheetmusic for piano omits that part, as you noticed. I have at home, but I'm on vacation far from home... So there's no official arrangement of the entire piece, but as you found, there are quite a few people with good ears (and interest in Williams) who make their own transcriptions and also analyze them. This should be of some help:

 

 

"good ears", yes .

this is a excellent analysis by @Pat_S btw!

[Maestro (Bradley Cooper 2023) formerly Steven Spielberg's Possible Leonard Bernstein Biopic]

Gustav Mahler's 5th symphony! That's exactly what I want trailer music to be!

[The Official James Horner Thread]

Yesterday James Horner would have turned 70.

As a small tribute I made a reduction of "Casper's Lullaby", one of my favorite pieces by him:

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Hm, why is "The Rise of Skywalker" titled as part 1 here?

In a leak that's going around it is titled part 2

 

[John Powell's SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY (2018) - Deluxe Edition 2020 / Intrada 2-CD edition October 31, 2023]

12 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said:

We should have a thread just for this nonsense

It's an unstoppable urge to post things that don't fit the topic of the thread.

[The Hans Zimmer Thead]

1 hour ago, JTW said:

Zimmer is active on THIS forum?

on VI-Control

[The Hans Zimmer Thead]

Over at VI-Control this kind of thread was closed a long time ago, some people spent all day posting personal attacks against Zimmer, and it was just disgusting (who by the way is active on this forum, which makes it even more sickening).

Maybe this thread should be closed too, it's not productive at all.

[THE LOST WORLD (1997) - 2023 2-CD expanded reissue from La-La Land Records now available!]

Will this release contain previously unreleased music?

[LA Phil's Sound/Stage Episode "John Williams Celebration" Releases July 8]

On 08/07/2022 at 7:49 PM, aj_vader said:

It's up! ❤️

 

 

Does somebody know why this video is private now?

 

On 09/07/2022 at 4:14 PM, thx99 said:

Also available via Vimeo...

https://player.vimeo.com/video/724664220?h=61c150aa31&autopause=0&app_id=122963

This link still works though.

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!]

Interesting, why didn't they just list the instrument they were playing in that booth? What instrument would they record in a special room?

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!]

1 hour ago, KittBash said:

 

The CD liner notes lists the players and they are the usual suspects of LA contract players that Sandy DeCrescent brings in.

I've been working on a project to catalogue all of the players and map out who has played on each score and this has led me to digitize all of my copies of the my JW liner notes so here's the list from the Dial of Destiny notes

 

 

  

What does "booth" mean here?

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57 minutes ago, karelm said:

nearly a billion dollars

$830,000*

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Johnny-O

[My new Score Reduction & Analysis channel.]

 

 

[My new Score Reduction & Analysis channel.]

 

 

[My new Score Reduction & Analysis channel.]

I have started to reduce my favorite film scores and try to analyze them as good as I can. Maybe someone here will also find this useful

https://youtube.com/@michael_grig_music

[Official JWFan mock ups and fan-made recordings thread!]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

Mockup of the beginning of The Imperial March

 

 

 

Wow, good work!!! 

 

Just a few things I noticed;

maybe take the percussion close mics a bit up and increase the overall loudness of the section by 2 or 3 db.

the horns at 00:16 could sound a bit harsher/tighter.

the trumpets at 00:30 could hold the note a bit longer.

a little intonation mistake at 00:26?

overall the strings and woodwinds could be a bit louder in comparison to the brass.

there is some unnatural loudness misbalance around the instrumentation change at 00:37.

And, this is just my taste, I would turn the Piccolo up (especially at 00:21)!

 

Overall, it sounds great! Is this Aaron Venture Brass? Do you plan on doing the whole thing?

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My sincere appreciation to the website layouter and, of course, to the author. What an interactive article!

[The Composer's Thread]

Guess who I tried to imitate here XD. 

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!]

Personally, I have four highlights:

 

This string run beginning at 1:11 of "To Athens"!

My absolute favorite little gesture in this score. 

 

Archimedes' theme is my new favorite Indy mystery theme! I love how it is featured in the prologue, it really deserves it's own concert suite! Too bad there is so little of it in the actual film!

 

00:46-00:59 of "To Morocco". Just heartwarming.

 

Also, the intro to "New York, 1969" is another masterclass in string composition, immaculate.

 

 

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!]

 

 

[Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!]

Truly great music! The mix as well, crisp clear. Personally, I only don't like the timpani sound, much too close. This is the case in most recent film scores, though... Everything else I love, the Celeste in particular is indeed well done here! And the brass

[The Orchestral Sample Library Thread]

9 hours ago, TheAvengerButton said:

Seeing as Spitfire just released their Originals orchestra, I thought I'd sit down and play with the patches that I'd already purchased (the Epic Strings, Brass and Woods) and do a short little ditty. I surprised myself--this library says epic but (IMO) it pulled off this more whimiscal sound with gusto. It's a great option for beginner composers to pick up.

 

 

I did cheat a little and I used a glockenspiel from Nucleus and a timpani from Abbey Road One Foundations, because I tried to use the free BBCSO Discover glock and timpani but for some reason the samples wont sound no matter what I do.

 

Nice little demo! Indeed, the short patches of these Originals are even in my template, they are really easy to work with, especially sketching, but I often also let them in for layering.

Maybe you can put the Glockenspiel  a bit more in the room (within Nucleus's mic capabilities?), it sounds a bit to present.   

 

[The Orchestral Sample Library Thread]

I won a copy of this because I (didn't) knew what the fourth film score recorded in Abbey Road was XD!