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Huh! Really surprised it is honestly still in print at 3,000 units. Maybe that is why they are doing the bundle. And maybe that is also why this release is only 2,000 units. I think maybe the first one still hasn't sold out because, if I recall, the FYC has everything on it (and lossless copies came up). For this film the FYC was only ever in MP3 and lacked the film versions of "Where No One Goes".
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I am stoked that, as he promised, this release does include both film versions of "Where No One Goes", and as a result, as I expected, does NOT include the album edit. Which I am 100% fine with. But I guess for anyone who wants that track you'll want to hold onto the OST for it, or a download.
3 minutes ago, Jay said:Cate Blanchet is in this movie?!
Yep! And the third one (briefly). Sidenote: second film may actually be my favorite of the series. It is definitely the "Empire Strikes Back" of it in terms of emotional stakes and darkness.
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The entire How To Train Your Dragon film trilogy is honestly one of the best trilogies in a long time. The third film is, imo, the only weak one, but it still has a satisfying conclusion.
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Ordered immediately. Didn't even need to look at the track list. Interesting that he again starts off the program with the alternate film version intro and then the original one haha. That is my ONLY critique of the original set, here again. But oh well.
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You're right! That would be awesome, too! The opening of the film literally has a dream in France and even shows a image of the Eifel Tower.
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I hope so! Would be just in time for my birthday on that day!
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!!!! So excited! Day one purchase!
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So, should there be a new poll on which LLL release of this score is better? Mostly focused on overall sound quality.
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On 25/02/2022 at 10:48 PM, bruce marshall said:
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It's set on Isla Nubar
Don't threaten me with a good time!
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It's funny how Powell's Dragon scores have grown on me in nearly the same way every time. With the first score for some reason it didn't connect with me right away... but over a short time it became my favorite score of that year. Same with the second score... I was initially disappointed and preferred the first score but over a short period of time I loved it even more! Then the third... "oh, it was alright but I still vastly prefer the second score", yet while I STILL may prefer the second score overall, the third one has seriously creeped up on me for being potentially even better. I think he certainly improved on his orchestrations, and the new themes are great and powerful.
It's just interesting to me that his Dragon scores were all like that to me. Usually scores either connect with me right away or they never really do. So I wonder what, for me at least, has a disconnect at first but then over time somehow beckons me to revisit then fall in love with it for all time?
NOTE: The Jonsi songs for me are easily ranked in this order, however: 1) Where No One Goes [Gee, I wonder why?], 2) Together From Afar [A very close second, it resonates with me.], 3) Sticks And Stones [A distant third; fluff, but good fluff.]. Btw, I will always love that they got the guy who did the amazing Hoppípolla song that I was blown away by years prior when it was used in a trailer for the "Planet Earth" documentary series.
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Seems to be completely sold out now. At least I got one long ago, now!
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"New worlds"? Like in a new park? What? Lucy needs to explain herself to Ricky.
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I actually thought it was a really well-done trailer! Especially compared to the trailers they had for Jurassic World and Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom; all of which fell flat for me. Luckily the movies themselves turned out good/decent, imo. But when you immediately start a trailer with John Hammond narration over pretty imagery... okay, you got me already haha. I doubt we'll hear him like that in the film, but I still honestly hope he will at least be referenced again (he is the only character apart from Ian Malcolm who has been in, or had some kind of reference, for every Jurassic film so far).
I am still not sold on where this story will go, but I do echo that it looks like ridiculous fun. And although it feels gimmicky as much as it has been in other recent franchise films, seeing the original trio cast together again for the first time in almost 30 years is just... so cool. Also I can't believe it's been that long, omg...
Of course, I am also very curious to hear Giacchino's score after producing a fantastic score to Fallen Kingdom (and an decent score to Jurassic World). I STILL play Fallen Kingdom every so often, it's just such an unabashedly fun score.
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Also, didn't Indiana Jones 5 get pushed to June 2023? Doesn't that create even more space between it and Fablemans now, which is November 2022? Especially since it is done filming, right?
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Yeah, that alternate art, especially the first castle design, was glorious! Shame we didn't get it instead of the dull BLACK lol. But yeah, I echo that it is amazing the set even exists at all (similar emotions for the Jurassic Park/Lost World set, haha).
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I wrote an article about this, haha.
https://jurassicoutpost.com/empire-reveals-new-jurassic-world-dominion-atrociraptor-image-details
I like the idea of having vicious Raptors back in the film, but I think it's funny how the director makes it sound like something that is new. It's how they used to be in these films! LOL. Before anyone asks, yes, Atrociraptor is a real dinosaur despite its amusing name.
I comment how the image looks like something out of a James Bond movie, complete with a closing quip: "Do you think there’s just No Time To Die for Owen in this image, or is it an atrocity?". Yeah. I'm proud of that line.
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Yeppp. That was why I had to ask! It's kind of like how "Adventures Of Han" was left off the Deluxe Edition of "Solo"; I felt something similar could have happened here. Btw this is what he said "yes" to:
QuoteSo excited for the deluxe edition! One if my favorite scores of all time! Question: Will it include the film versions of "Where No One Goes"? I love the fun exciting extension to the ending of the version in the opening of the film, and also the instrumental intro leading into the end credits version!
I may have been a bit wordy, I was tired but excited, haha.
I think another reason why I felt they may not be included is because essentially to be "complete" you'd have to have a whopping THREE versions: the two used in the film and the album version. I think if a composer less interested in this kind of release had been involved, or same with the label, they would have just stuck with the album version. Now, if he does end up omitting the album version, I wouldn't be surprised or miffed at all since we of course already have it.
Basically the album version is the song as heard in the opening of the film (sans some extra instrumental flourishes from the film mix, if I am not mistaken) but without the exciting orchestral ending when Toothless crashes. The album's version of the ending however is also heard in the end credits version.
But who knows, perhaps the album version may still be included, which would be nice!
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Ahh I see. Well that is still good the score finally clicked with you! I feel like it is more of mood-setter than something more in your face with its themes, like ID4. I mean, it has some nice themes in it, but you're right that they don't really stick with you like some of his other scores. But I don't know what it is, the score just has this intense life to it, nearly all the way through; it's a wild good time.
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This is part of my holy trinity of David Arnold scores (tied with ID4 and The World Is Not Enough). I am glad you finally gave it a listen! It's often too buried by SFX in the film and heavily edited at times to have been properly appreciated without listening to it on its own (that, and many people hate this film or don't like it enough to ever re-watch and be reminded of how good the music in it is). Why it never got a proper album release (beyond a promo) until LLL first released the complete score, I have no idea. I also "upgraded" to this BuySoundtrax version years ago for the additional alternates and the unreleased promo album (which I believe has its own alternate for a track in there as well); giving me nostalgia from having found the promo in watery 128k MP3s on Napster back in the old internet days haha. His selections for the promo album were really good choices, but the complete score has some incredible additional tracks throughout, making the complete score clearly the best way to listen despite its girth.
Yeah it is curious Arnold made the score so percussion heavy, and given it came out the year after Lost World I think you are right in assuming he was inspired by the same choice haha. Arnold uses percussion in similarly intense ways at times (like that bit where it escalates with the brass right before the "Taxi Chase" begins? holy crap!). It's an AMAZING score to drive to, by the way.
John Powell's HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 2 (2014) - 2022 Varese Deluxe Edition
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I still read that track name us "Furries".
YES! That missing action cue before the big battle is honestly a highlight for me, so having that on CD officially alone would make that worth it. I am sure there must be interesting demos, maybe even actual alternates too that we may not know about?