Let's See How Biased The Board Can Be!

[indy4 155]

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[Henry B 50]

Blegh.

[Neimoidian 14]

Is this a scientific examination?

Favourite Zimmer's score over least favourite Williams'.

[A24 4,337]

Indy4, can't you love your Zimmer without our approval?

[King Mark 3,631]

Even Earthquake is better than anything Zimmer has ever written

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

I enjoy The Lion King more than I enjoy Attack of the Clones

[Bryant Burnette 654]

I'll take just about anything over John Goldfarb, Please Come Home. I'm not a huge Zimmer fan, but I don't understand where the hatred for his work comes from.

[Jeshopk 8]

Least favorite Williams. That's not bias, it's taste.

[Greg1138 3]

First option....

[Neimoidian 14]

Least favorite Williams. That's not bias, it's taste.

It's not taste, it's fanaticism

[robthehand 3]

http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6042

[Jeshopk 8]

Riiiiight. Is your least favorite Williams score better than anybody's best music? Perhaps Mannheim Steamroller, Yanni or Hannah Montana? If not, that's either dogma or you really have broad taste.

[Neimoidian 14]

http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6042

... and I thought I had deja vu.

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

I'll take just about anything over John Goldfarb, Please Come Home. I'm not a huge Zimmer fan, but I don't understand where the hatred for his work comes from.

Actually, very few people here hate his work; scores such as The Lion King, The Prince of Egypt and others are appreciated by quite a number of members.

It's comparison threads like this which create the appearance of hatred.

[Josh500 1,615]

Just to be clear, what IS Zimmer's best score? Is there even such a thing?

[Neimoidian 14]

As for me it's Thin Red Line. But there are other highlights in his discography.

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

Just to be clear, what IS Zimmer's best score? Is there even such a thing?

That's obviously up to the listener, isn't it?

Or do you base all of your opinions from other people's?

[Josh500 1,615]

Just to be clear, what IS Zimmer's best score? Is there even such a thing?

That's obviously up to the listener, isn't it?

Or do you base all of your opinions from other people's?

Okay, my bad, I should have asked which scores are generally thought to be his best works?

In JW's case, it's Star Wars, E.T., Jaws, Schindler's List, Indiana Jones.

What are some of Hans Zimmer's best works? The Lion King? Backdraft? Pirates of the Caribbean?

[MSM 126]

Conrack and some more 50-ies score are not really a fun to listen to. These scores are typical for their time, they are not great scores. There are Zimmer scores that I would rather listen to, BUT most of the time because of one or two good tracks. I would prefer Batman Begins (Because of Molossus) or Da Vinci Code (because of Chevaliers de Sangreal).

[Richard Penna 3,691]

We already know how biased this place can be.

For the record, I chose option 1. I enjoy several Zimmer scores more than my least favourite Williams efforts.

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

Yeah, there's nothing better to tickle the darkest secrets out of a Williams fan than a ... poll?

[Ollie 1,059]

Well since the only Zimmer score I have in my collection is Hannibal and that's for a track not even composed by Zimmer (Sorry Morlock) I'd have to say I prefer every Williams score, even AOTC.

There also seems to be a bias against any score written before Jaws by Williams, which is also a shame because there's some fun stuff in his early works.

Now if you were to ask me about composers that are actUally good then yes I prefer their good scores more than Williams lesser works.

[Maestro 147]

No. 1. Because I like Zimmer.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

There are only a handful of Zimmer scores I like, and probably only two or three I'd pick over Goldfarb...

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

There also seems to be a bias against any score written before Jaws by Williams, which is also a shame because there's some fun stuff in his early works.

Hey, The Towering Inferno is pretty good.

Also, Jane Eyre.

[Ollie 1,059]

Didn't say everyone was biased.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Do I really need to say which option I voted for?

[scissorhands 16]

I don't think Zimmer will ever write something as elaborated as Williams' 60's comedies. I don't know why anyone should be biased to think that way.

[Ray Barnsbury 8]

I'm not a huge Zimmer fan, but I'd easily listen to some of my favorites of his over some of my least favorite Williams. It's nice to see the results reflecting a more open-minded attitude than the very vocal minority around here.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

@scissorhands

You obviously don't know much about Zimmer.

[scissorhands 16]

@kora

You obviously don't know much about Williams.

[Ollie 1,059]

Does anyone know anything about anyone?

[Elmo Lewis 6]

I don't think Zimmer will ever write something as elaborated as Williams' 60's comedies. I don't know why anyone should be biased to think that way.

Doubtlessly, but can one neglect the visceral reaction that successful-albeit-less-elaborated music can convey?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

@kora

I knew Hitch would get it stuck in people's heads.

[scissorhands 16]

I don't think Zimmer will ever write something as elaborated as Williams' 60's comedies. I don't know why anyone should be biased to think that way.

Doubtlessly, but can one neglect the visceral reaction that successful-albeit-less-elaborated music can convey?

That's right. I find myself listening to Zimmer from time to time, and I don't feel guilty for liking it.

[Ollie 1,059]

@kora

I knew Hitch would get it stuck in people's heads.

I call you Koray.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,068]

This is like asking a classical purist whether or not they like the best of The Beatles vs. the worst of Beethoven.

Of course there'll be bias.

[scissorhands 16]

Well, that's quite an extreme comparison in style and period.

Would be there any bias when I say that the worst Pierre Boulez is better than the best Tyler Bates?

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

I don't think Zimmer will ever write something as elaborated as Williams' 60's comedies. I don't know why anyone should be biased to think that way.

Doubtlessly, but can one neglect the visceral reaction that successful-albeit-less-elaborated music can convey?

That's right. I find myself listening to Zimmer from time to time, and I don't feel guilty for liking it.

You are lucky the Spanish inquisition does not exist now

[ymenard 54]

The Thin Red Line > Heartbeeps

[Quintus 5,399]

Option 1. Gladiator is still in my top five fave scores.

[Red 75]

Option Number One.

I've never really been a Zimmer fan, but I'll admit I'd easily prefer his best to JW's worst (The Lion King comes to mind). That doesn't make me less of a Williams fan.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

zimmer is cha cha

to put it another way

John Williams is to the Beatles as zimmer is to 50cents

[Richard Penna 3,691]

Who was the 'they're equal' vote?

Have we underestimated you Koray?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

No. I already made it clear which option I voted for.

[Morlock 11]

zimmer is cha cha

to put it another way

John Williams is to the Beatles as zimmer is to 50cents

What does this mean?

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

If someone points me what could be considered Zimmer finnest, i´ll vote.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

The Thing Red Line, The Lion King, Gladiator, Batman Begins, Driving Miss Daisy, As Good As It Gets, etc...

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Gladiator, Batman Begins

sorry.

[Morlock 11]

Hannibal. The Da Vinci Code. The Lion King. Black Hawk Down. Pirates of the Caribbean: At Wortld's End. Gladiator. Rain Man. Spanglish.

If you don't care for any of them, that's fine...but it's not something so slight that can be laughed away.