Andy 4,141 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 A.I. - Artificial IntelligenceSpun it after watching the film again. What a lovely, lovely score. I actually think this album presentation is pretty good as well. I like the start of the CD with The Mecha World from the Manhattan scenes. It doesn't make you wait until the very end for the For Always theme. What does the academy promo offer that's not on the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 What does the academy promo offer that's not on the OST?The rest of the score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I'm listening the Complete Recordings from Lord of the Rings for the fisrt time. I've finished disc one. It's as good as I remembered it from the OST if not better. But it feels like it never ends. I've got 9 more CDs ahead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 A.I. - Artificial IntelligenceSpun it after watching the film again. What a lovely, lovely score. I actually think this album presentation is pretty good as well. I like the start of the CD with The Mecha World from the Manhattan scenes. It doesn't make you wait until the very end for the For Always theme. What does the academy promo offer that's not on the OST?There's about 50 more minutes that's not on the original album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,141 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Any standout cues or sequences in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 It does feature the complete cue to Rouge City that contains "Der Rosenkavalier".Here's the track listing to compare:http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=35733 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Any standout cues or sequences in particular?Several.The one that Mark mentioned, the prelude to 'abandoned in the woods' with more iterations of that theme.The whole score is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,141 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Thanks, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 And it contains several renditions of that gorgeous piano theme (is it David's theme), that cannot be heard once in the OST. It's one of my all time favorite themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial: 20th Anniversary EditionIndiana Jones And The Temple Of DoomEmpire Of The SunIndiana Jones And The Last CrusadeAlwaysStripes by Elmer BernsteinSuperb score. It's actually more of just a theme repeated over and over, but it's so damn good and infectious that it doesn't matter. Bernstein had a way with themes that no other composer did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Keeping my toes warm with The Lion King. Nicely done, Mr. Zimmer (et al.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 One of the few great Zimmer scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 One of the many great Zimmer scores.That's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 It's certainly better than a lot of what he's done - and more importantly, it's good in a different way than a lot of what he's done, probably making it more palatable to the ears of your average John Williams fan. There are certainly some strong stereotypical MV tendencies in the unreleased action music, though, with certain passages sounding very familiar to Backdraft and Drop Zone. (And others, I'm sure. Heck, there's even a part where I swear a theme from Crimson Tide comes through.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 And it contains several renditions of that gorgeous piano theme (is it David's theme), that cannot be heard once in the OST. It's one of my all time favorite themesThat theme seems to refer more to the idea of a lost child and missing him or rather a yearning love for a child (associated with Monica and Doctor Hobby) and it is an absolutely gorgeous theme, stated numerous times in the film but strangely and sadly left off the OST album.Another highlight is a cue called David and the Supermecha which contains a beautiful harp duet and development of the Blue Fairy's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,554 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 It does feature the complete cue to Rouge City that contains "Der Rosenkavalier".Here's the track listing to compare:http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=35733You are right, Mark, the score is great, and should be listened to on the 2-disc set.Does anyone know where to get the "Dr. Know" music, and/or the film version of "The Mecha World"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 It's certainly better than a lot of what he's done - and more importantly, it's good in a different way than a lot of what he's done, probably making it more palatable to the ears of your average John Williams fan. There are certainly some strong stereotypical MV tendencies in the unreleased action music, though, with certain passages sounding very familiar to Backdraft and Drop Zone. (And others, I'm sure. Heck, there's even a part where I swear a theme from Crimson Tide comes through.)I don't hear any Backdraft in there. Drop Zone, possibly, since it was composed in the same year. Crimson Tide came after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 One of the overrated Zimmer scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 [i don't hear any Backdraft in there.When Pumbaa shows up to save the day in the final battle. I actually like that moment, mind you - it's very tongue-in-cheek and almost self-referential.Crimson Tide came after.But a lot more people know what you're talking about if you mention the themes from Crimson Tide, rather than the synth trumpet melody that plays while Mufasa saves Simba from the hyenas in the elephant graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 It does feature the complete cue to Rouge City that contains "Der Rosenkavalier".Sadly it sounds as atrocious as the OST. Shawn Murphy's "finest hour", indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial: 20th Anniversary EditionIndiana Jones And The Temple Of DoomEmpire Of The SunIndiana Jones And The Last CrusadeAlwaysAh yes, you are making your way through all the Spielberg/Williams scores in order, right? What were your thoughts on this batch?Stripes by Elmer BernsteinSuperb score. It's actually more of just a theme repeated over and over, but it's so damn good and infectious that it doesn't matter. Bernstein had a way with themes that no other composer did.Yea! Its quite underrated. The whole CD is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Untouchables (Ennio Morricone): I'm dissapointed.Beyond Borders (James Horner): there are some lovely cues in there.Shores' Lord of the Rings Complete Recordings Disc 2: it feels more boring than the first one, but there are GREAT cues like Gilraen's Memorial or Balin's TombDisc 3: all the Lothlorien music is awesome.Currently on Ponyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial: 20th Anniversary EditionIndiana Jones And The Temple Of DoomEmpire Of The SunIndiana Jones And The Last CrusadeAlwaysAh yes, you are making your way through all the Spielberg/Williams scores in order, right? What were your thoughts on this batch?Well, since you asked!It's odd that my love for Raiders grew (or rather just started) on this listen-through, and that my love for TOD and Last Crusade went down. I definitely didn't enjoy those as much, although each score has their highlights. I also still think "Scherzo For Motorcycle And Orchestra" is one of the best cues of the series.I really loved some of the nice quieter passages in the first half of E.T., particularly "Toys." "The Magic Of Halloween" is where the album starts to pick up IMO, and from that point until the end it's pretty much a masterpiece.Empire Of The Sun has always been a top Williams score for me, and this listen just reinforces that.Always starts out nice and lovely, but then it treads into the boring category. A decent score, probably not as bad as many claim it is, but definitely not Williams' finest hour.I'm currently on their 90s collaborations, which take an interesting turn from the 80s, and will report back when I'm done with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 OK I really have to check out Empire Of The Sun. It gets a lot of praise on this board and I've never listened to the OST (or seen the film; But I have heard the tracks on the Spielberg/Williams Sony CDs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I've just finished Joe Hisaichi's Ponyo. It's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Marc Streitenfeld's Robin Hood is really good, surprising as his music never really grabbed me prior to this.The movie lets Marc's music develop and weave in and out of the many action set-pieces, which in itself is a refreshing change as we all know the it could've quite easily turned into generic wallpaper fluff.There are some celtic elements with usage of uillean pipes which work well to evoke the period, a nice use of choral work and some genuinely thrilling action cues with driving strings and punctuated brass / percussion.It's pointless comparing to Kamen & Korngold as the movie is a completely different approach, so a score in the idiom that has gone before wouldn't have worked at all. Marc's work deserves to stand up with those scores, whilst not achieving the same highs it at least is worthy of credit.Chaac, yes Ponyo is a great listen isn't it. The first Joe Hisaichi score I heard all the way through, so i'll be investigating his many others.- Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 It's odd that my love for Raiders grew (or rather just started) on this listen-through, and that my love for TOD and Last Crusade went down. I definitely didn't enjoy those as much, although each score has their highlights. I also still think "Scherzo For Motorcycle And Orchestra" is one of the best cues of the series.Good...I feel more confident in your sanity now! Although my interest in the Raiders score was limited when I would see the movie as a kid, I finally got around to buying the soundtrack once I became more of a Williams fan, and I was captivated. I rarely get into a score that fast. Hopefully, you'll reach that level of adoration for the score, too! TOD took longer for me to appreciate, but now I like it nearly as much as Raiders. TLC...erm, it has some glorious moments and some that just feel like rather tired late-80s-early-90s Williams underscore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Marc Streitenfeld's Robin Hood is really good, surprising as his music never really grabbed me prior to this.The movie lets Marc's music develop and weave in and out of the many action set-pieces, which in itself is a refreshing change as we all know the it could've quite easily turned into generic wallpaper fluff.There are some celtic elements with usage of uillean pipes which work well to evoke the period, a nice use of choral work and some genuinely thrilling action cues with driving strings and punctuated brass / percussion.It's pointless comparing to Kamen & Korngold as the movie is a completely different approach, so a score in the idiom that has gone before wouldn't have worked at all. Marc's work deserves to stand up with those scores, whilst not achieving the same highs it at least is worthy of credit. Now I'm really looking forward to this one. As I've said before, his last two scores for Scott each had something interesting going on. I'm looking forward to hearing his work in a movie that has a bigger place for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 It's pointless comparing to Kamen & Korngold as the movie is a completely different approach, so a score in the idiom that has gone before wouldn't have worked at all. Marc's work deserves to stand up with those scores, whilst not achieving the same highs it at least is worthy of credit.- TimBut the Kamen score isn't great shakes, anyway. It shouldn't be too hard to top it. The soundclips were a bit on the generic side, lots of MV and processed string ostinati...has it good themes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I don't think Kamen's score is great, either, but it's got a magnificent main titles. The themes is actually the part I'm least worried about. I've liked Streitenfeld's themes. I haven't heard the soundclips, but an overly MV sound is what I'm worried about. My fear is that it's going to be dominated by cheap-sounding percussion, moaning women and duduks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 The (almost) complete INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS. Great stuff.Now going for the inaugural spin of ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I wasn't aware of that much left off the album of Inglorious Basterds. A couple of Morricone pieces (including Battle of Algiers)...what's in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I wasn't aware of that much left off the album of Inglorious Basterds. A couple of Morricone pieces (including Battle of Algiers)...what's in there?From the film's production notes (album titles in bold): 1. "THE GREEN LEAVES OF SUMMER" written by Dimitri Tiomkin, Paul Francis Webster performed by Nick Perito & His Orchestra Courtesy of Capitol Records under license from EMI Film & Television Music 2. "THE VERDICT” (“Dopo la condanna”) written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of EMI Music Publishing Italia srl 3. “L’INCONTRO CON LA FIGLIA” written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of GDM Music S.r.l. on behalf of Universal Music Publishing Ricordi S.r.l. 4. "WHITE LIGHTNING (Main Title)” written by Charles Bernstein performed by Charles Bernstein (from the motion picture “White Lightning”) used through the courtesy of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Music Inc. 5. "IL MERCENARIO (ripresa)" written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of EMI Music Publishing Italia srl 6. “SLAUGHTER” written by Billy Preston performed by Billy Preston courtesy of A&M Records under license from Universal Music Enterprises 7. "ALGERI: 1 NOVEMBRE 1954" (Battle of Algiers) written by Ennio Morricone, Gillo Pontecorvo orchestra conducted by Bruno Nicolai courtesy of CAM Cine TV Music, Inc./BMG Ricordi Music Publishing Spa 8. "AL DI LA' DELLA LEGGE" written by Riziero Ortolani performed by Riz Ortolani courtesy of IDM Music Ltd obo GDM Music S.r.l. on behalf of Universal Music Publishing Ricordi S.r.l. 9. "CLAIRE'S FIRST APPEARANCE" written by Jacques Loussier performed by Jacques Loussier courtesy of Warner Bros. Entertainment 10. "THE FIGHT" written by Jacques Loussier performed by Jacques Loussier courtesy of Warner Bros. Entertainment 11. "THE SURRENDER" (“La resa”) written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of EMI Music Publishing Italia srl 12. “ONE SILVER DOLLAR” (Un Dollaro Bucato) written by Gianni Ferrio performed by The Film Studio Orchestra courtesy of Victor Entertainment, Inc., Japan. 13. “HOUND CHASE (Intro)” written by Charles Bernstein performed by Charles Bernstein (from the motion picture “White Lightning”) Used through the courtesy of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Music Inc. 14. “BATH ATTACK” written by Charles Bernstein performed by Charles Bernstein courtesy of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation 15. "DAVON GEHT DIE WELT NICHT UNTER" written by Bruno Balz, Michael Jary performed by Zarah Leander from the film “Die Grosse Liebe” 16. "THE MAN WITH THE BIG SOMBRERO" written by Phil Boutelje, Foster Carling performed by Samantha Shelton and Michael Andrew inspired by the original recording by June Havoc 17. "ICH WOLLT ICH WAER EIN HUHN" written by Hans-Fritz Beckmann, Peter Kreuder performed by Lilian Harvey, Willy Fritsch courtesy of EMI Music Germany under license from EMI Film & Television Music 18. "MAIN THEME" written by Jacques Loussier performed by Jacques Loussier courtesy of Warner Bros. Entertainment 19. "CAT PEOPLE (Putting Out The Fire)” written by David Bowie, Giorgio Moroder performed by David Bowie courtesy of Universal Studios, Inc. 20. “MYSTIC AND SEVERE” written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of GDM Music S.r.l. on behalf of Universal Music Publishing Ricordi S.r.l. 21. “THE DEVIL’S RUMBLE” written by Davie Allan and Mike Curb performed by Davie Allan and The Arrows (from the motion picture “Devil’s Angels”) courtesy of Curb Records, Inc. 22. “WHAT’D I SAY” written by Ray Charles Performed by Rare Earth courtesy of Motown Records under license from Universal Music Enterprises 23. "ZULUS" written by Elmer Bernstein performed by Elmer Bernstein conducting the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra courtesy of Cerberus Records/Cerberus Productions 24. "TIGER TANK" written by Lalo Schifrin courtesy of Warner Bros. Entertainment 25. “EASTERN CONDORS” composed by Chung Ting Yat ownership Creative Entertainment 26. "UN AMICO" written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of EMI General Music srl 27. "RABBIA E TARANTELLA" written by Ennio Morricone performed by Ennio Morricone courtesy of GDM Music S.r.l. on behalf of Universal Music Publishing Ricordi S.r.l.The EASTERN CONDORS track is the only one I haven't found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Where does it appear in the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Near the end when Donny and Omar complete their mission, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Chaac, yes Ponyo is a great listen isn't it. The first Joe Hisaichi score I heard all the way through, so i'll be investigating his many others.- TimI'd recommend Princess Mononoke, both the original album and the Symphonic Suite CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Chaac, yes Ponyo is a great listen isn't it. The first Joe Hisaichi score I heard all the way through, so i'll be investigating his many others.- TimI'd recommend Princess Mononoke, both the original album and the Symphonic Suite CD.I'd add HANA-BI aka FIREWORKS to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Marc Streitenfeld's Robin Hood is really good, surprising as his music never really grabbed me prior to this.The movie lets Marc's music develop and weave in and out of the many action set-pieces, which in itself is a refreshing change as we all know the it could've quite easily turned into generic wallpaper fluff.There are some celtic elements with usage of uillean pipes which work well to evoke the period, a nice use of choral work and some genuinely thrilling action cues with driving strings and punctuated brass / percussion.It's pointless comparing to Kamen & Korngold as the movie is a completely different approach, so a score in the idiom that has gone before wouldn't have worked at all. Marc's work deserves to stand up with those scores, whilst not achieving the same highs it at least is worthy of credit.Chaac, yes Ponyo is a great listen isn't it. The first Joe Hisaichi score I heard all the way through, so i'll be investigating his many others.- TimInteresting. I wasn't gonna bother to download, but now I'll definitely check it outI don't think Kamen's score is great, either, but it's got a magnificent main titles. The themes is actually the part I'm least worried about. I've liked Streitenfeld's themes. I haven't heard the soundclips, but an overly MV sound is what I'm worried about. My fear is that it's going to be dominated by cheap-sounding percussion, moaning women and duduks.Yea thats the thing... the main titles are so amazing, the rest of the score (at least on CD) never lives up. I'd certainly welcome a complete score release though, perhaps there's some good unreleased music that was left off the OST (been YEARS since i've seen the movie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Best. Robin. Hood. Music. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I haven't heard the soundclips, but an overly MV sound is what I'm worried about. My fear is that it's going to be dominated by cheap-sounding percussion, moaning women and duduks. I hope it's not. I so hate duduks now. Darío Marianelli's Agora would have been great without the duduks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Poltergeist by Jerry GoldsmithBelieve me or not, I've never heard this one in full, only bits and pieces of it. Now that Sony re-released the expanded album I have a chance to sink my teeth into it. Goldsmith is someone whose music I discover very slowly, for some reason. This is awesome! I miss this kind of music in films. Beautiful from start to finish and some of the best fantasy/horror writing I've ever heard. But then again you all already know that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Too bad you spent your money on the Sony re-release... FSM is currently working a 2CD set with the complete score, the original album arrangements, and never-before-heard alternates, all with improved sound coming later on this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Really? I wasn't aware of that. Ah well, at least it was cheap. Which reminds me... I bought GNP Wrath of Khan three weeks before FSM's announcement of the new release. What should I buy next (or re-buy)... Hook or Dracula? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Whether they're getting re-issues or not, the idea to rerelease the Rhino catalogue was genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Really? I wasn't aware of that. Ah well, at least it was cheap. Well that's good. Here's where Lukas Kendall announced it: http://filmscoremont...mID=1&archive=0Which reminds me... I bought GNP Wrath of Khan three weeks before FSM's announcement of the new release. What should I buy next (or re-buy)... Hook or Dracula? Hook! Hook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 HIGHLANDER. Official release please!ROBIN HOOD. It's pretty good. Lots of atmospheric ethnic sounds, some powerful action beats and some lovely melodic sections. Quite harsh on occasion, I imagine it'll work well with Ridley's medieval style. Moaning woman only appears a couple of times. Thankfully doesn't sound too MV-ish. Wish it was longer as it went really quick (it's 50 minutes or so).A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET by Steve Jablonsky. Garbage. Exactly what you'd expect a Michael Bay horror film to sound like. Boring, cliched, no surprises. And he's mangled Charles Bernstein's original theme into something barely recognizable. Horrific in all the wrong ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Best. Robin. Hood. Music. Ever.And still I'm waiting for a CD release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Did you guys get a CD of Robin Hood or is there a digital download available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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