crocodile 8,020 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I have to admit I just discovered the film some years ago (5, I think). Completely ignored it back in 1997. I was 12 and there were Star Wars SE, and The Lost World. This film looked bit lame. And cheap. But years after I realised how brilliant it is and how its somewhat bland soap opera look and casting choices fit the subject perfectly. It's perhaps one of the wittiest action film of that decade. Shouldn't have doubted Verhoeven. And yeah, I really liked the score straight away. Karol Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 'Starship Troopers' flies on an entirely different plane than 'Lost World'. I really love some of the set pieces Spielberg cooked up but the movie total is crass and empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Predator 2? In SST? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Punishment / Asteroid Grazing, first 2 minutes clearly based on the opening of Silvestri's end title as well as down below, very clearly from 06:35. Silvestri references himself also very deliberately so it may have been some similar cue but i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 On 13/09/2016 at 8:49 PM, Richard said: I have, actually, never heard this. It has my definitive Throne Room and Here They Come on it. The Sand People is excellent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Thank you! OK, you've convinced me, guys. I'll shell-out £5:99 for it, at my local HMV. How does it "sound"? I mean, say compared to Anvil, or Abbey Road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It sounds good for digital (I prefer analogue brass). If you aren't already sick to the teeth of old Star Wars music then 6 quid is well worth it. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The Perfect Storm I've noticed that this score really works very well on a sunny day. It's really evokative of summer near the seaside. Wonderfully dramatic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The Mummy - Jerry Goldsmith Pure fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Star Trek Into Darkness, expanded. We learn by doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Best-scored shark attack this side of John Williams. Some of our not-so-new talents should watch and lern how to build a sequence through music. Cerebral Cortex and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 A great cue, from a great, and so little-know score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hellboy by Marco Beltrami Hellboy II: The Golden Army by Danny Elfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Star Trek Beyond - Michael Giacchino Still good! Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Still mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Weird coincidence! Michael Giacchino - Star Trek Beyond (OST) I like the score but not the OST. It's going great through them crashing on the planet, covering all the important used so far. Then just a couple tracks later we're already at the start of the climax of the movie, with all the cool stuff from the middle not released at all. Can't wait for a Deluxe Edition. I think i've calmed down from my thoughts that this was the best of the three ST scores by Giacchino. I think I like STID more. But maybe a complete release will change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Not likely you will get a legit one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Best of Both Worlds expanded, Ron Jones (Borg Engaged still has that 'chills down the spine' element and the use of the fanfare in "Captain Borg" just as good the first time round) and two Jerry Goldsmith's, The Last Run and The River Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 John Williams - The Force Awakens (OST) Gooood stuff! I have to say that even though I know the OST is not complete, it doesn't feel like highlights are missing. When listening, the album is so expertly crafted, it doesn't really matter what isn't there, because what is there is so good. Of course I still want a complete edition, but this is a quite fine album as is. Taikomochi and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The final few tracks, starting with Torn Apart are all outstanding. A superb finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Stefancos said: Not likely you will get a legit one though. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Ice Age: Collision Course It's a standard CG comedy score. Debney gives it some flair and packages it in a digestible format, so it's disposable fun. He even uses Newman and Powell's thematic material (Newman's family theme and Powell's theme from Dawn of the Dinosaurs) throughout, unnecessary but a nice touch nonetheless. Kasey Kockroach and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 The finale cues from ET., Album versions I think, beautiful finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Why not? The film didn't do very well, and the OST is a lot longer then the previous two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Battlestar Galactica-Stu Phillips This is the score for the original television show (theatrical pilot?). Pretty good. I haven't listened to McCreary's so I don't have much to say in comparison. I do like the original TV show better though. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 22 minutes ago, Hawmy said: Battlestar Galactica-Stu Phillips This is the score for the original television show (theatricality pilot?). Pretty good. I haven't listened to McCreary's so I don't have much to say in comparison. I do like the original TV show better though. It's pure Cheddar, but it's s fun ride. I remember seeing the edited (135 mins to 115 mins) version, at my local fleapit, in SENSURROUND, no less. Happy days Simon McBride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 English or American cheddar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Good point! Well...it's an American show, with at least one Welshman, in it, so, if I had to choose, I'd say American. I'd like to say Monterey Jack, but it's not as classy as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Flightplan - James Horner A rare oddity in that it s a late thriller pastiche by Horner (Sneakers, Pelican Brief, Beautiful Mind et al.) that for reasons that shouldn't be rises above its many familiar elements as enchantingly constructed little gem (for this genre). Its musical ingredients range from the very textural to hands-on action bound together by a questing three note motif and an unusually close-knitted web of orchestral and electronic ideas that betray a care for musical storytelling that make it run alongside JNH's Shymalayan scores (Horner just had the misfortune of being associated to a rather daft potboiler). It might not yet approach 'Coma' but what is... 'Leaving Berlin' opens the album with a recurrent short idea featuring ominous chimes and low-end piano engaged in an uneasy dance with fragile melodic fragments led by strings and woodwind section for almost half of it's 8-minute running time before the main theme proper enters - it's an opening that paints a psychological portrait of Jodie Foster as distressed woman just widowed sitting in a train station in a place faraway from home. The range of subtle emotions Horner presents here musically is arresting but it's blink-and-you-will-miss-it music, headphones required. When Foster's daughter goes missing on a flight back home and nobody believes her she ever was there, you pretty much know where you are headed in a commercial thriller - you just hope they don't buy their big bang surprise finale with fatal disregard for human, physical or just plain storytelling logic and of course they do just that - but Horner by instinct keeps his eye towards the emotional undercurrents instead of committing himself to heighten the shocks and jolts. Starting with Foster waking up, slowly realizing her child might be gone the gloomy string adagio (hello Khatchaturian, though they left it out the movie) wakes up right with her and while she twists and turns to find out the truth the ensuing cues masterfully package her different states (hysteria, blank despair, quiet moments of reflection, scheming determination) into a colourful musical odyssey (while there are overlaps with earlier scores, the orchestration is fairly sophisticated with all kinds of playful percussions ranging from assorted chimes to iron chair legs). In a way, the grim prospect helps Horner to overcome his tendency to sentimentalize what's already fairly mushy onscreen: when midway through 'So Vulnerable' a tearful moment occurs or in 'Opening the Casket' the mousy theme is given over to sweeping strings announcing a resolution (that turns out false) these moments feel earned and, more importantly, anchor the suspense. It might be a facetious comparison but the ability to rise above a bad movie in a 'difficult' genre like this - in the sense that the score musically gains a coherent form that steers clear of the less compelling scenes and in a movie - is hallmark of the best film composers, often attributed to Goldsmith but also colleagues like Arthur Rubinstein (for another highly improbable thriller, 'Nick of Time'), and in that sense Horner has truly risen to the occasion here (just compare that to his disappointing outings like 'Pelican Brief' or 'Patriot Games', where he often resorted to boring and formless droning). Nic Cage Fugue and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 That is another Horner score that flew (no pun intended) under my radar back in the day and I remember putting it on my "to listen" list ages ago but never got around to it. Might have to check it out now, if it is on Spotify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Never heard this, but I love SNEAKERS*, so I'll give it a listen. * cattle mutilations are up. PS Pub, I think that's "hysteria". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Tahiti is NOT in Europe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 A bunch of Star Treks. Goldsmith's work is my favourite. Horner's material is fun as hell, although it doesn't make me want to cry like Goldsmith manages to do at times. Eidelman's entry is a jewel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Goldsmith => Horner => the other ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Richard said: PS Pub, I think that's "hysteria". Right, i try to sneak in a bit of german from time to time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Abzû by Austin Wintory: This is simply one of the best scores of the year, hands down. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Never heard of this film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Don't worry yourself with it, it's game music and so of no interest by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ah... *goes back to his Deep Space Nine CD* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 12 hours ago, Richard said: It's pure Cheddar, but it's s fun ride. I remember seeing the edited (135 mins to 115 mins) version, at my local fleapit, in SENSURROUND, no less. Happy days It's even cheesier if your Mormon haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 The whole show is really about Mormons in space (kind of). Gary Larson was Mormon, and many references to Mormon theology are scattered about the show. I can't really get to deep into it without breaking the forum rules though haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Mormons...in space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 If BSG was Mormons in space, then what the wanking hell was GALACTICA 1980 all about?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'm surprised Stefan didn't realize Battlestar Galactica was tied to Mormonism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You do realize there are pretty much zero mormons in Europe right? How the hell should I know anything about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 16 hours ago, Stefancos said: The film didn't do very well, and the OST is a lot longer then the previous two. Hm. After the previous two, I was just assuming this one would get an expansion as well for sure. I didn't even consider picking up the standard release. I'm also surprised that the film didn't do well, after all the praise I've read about it online. I'm not complaining, mind you. It wasn't a good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Richard said: If BSG was Mormons in space, then what the wanking hell was GALACTICA 1980 all about?! About them after they landed on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 John Williams - Heartbeeps I listened this score for the first time (it's on Spotify). Probably for the last time too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Bespin said: John Williams - Heartbeeps I listened this score for the first time (it's on Spotify). Probably for the last time too! What, no love for the Crimebuster theme?!!! And all that fine layering of synth work! Yeah it's not his most shining hour that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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