mxsch 115 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Expanded edition of Edward Scissorhands, such a beatiful work. Elfman def. at his finest. Bespin and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I wasn't impressed by the Expanded release, the OST is damn efficient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted February 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2021 Elmer Bernstein - The Unused Scores This set spans three Bernstein rejections, starting in 1985 - probably his first - to 1995, when he already became notorious for being thrown off as much as kept on new releases to, finally, 2002 when his style was the dying breath of a bygone era. Bernstein scored big on last time in 2003 with 'Far from Heaven', tellingly a deliberate love letter to swooning 50's style of Frank Skinner and Co. For PR reasons, the first score featured is a warm-up Scorsese's Weinstein extravaganza 'Gangs of New York', and it sure was a costly way to find out what your film is not. The 70 minutes Bernstein contributed range from lyrical to brutal, mixing his patented americana with a few faint irish touches. It's right for the period, rather austere, and the mix of bold hymns, dirge-like chamber orchestrations with lots of woodwind solos and only occasional detours into big Hollywood gestures seems authentic enough and is conceived as a fabric orchestral work. What Scorsese, hesitantly, decided after numerous rows with bulldozing Harvey Weinstein (he wasn't called Harvey Scissorhands for nothing) was to punch up the soundtrack with a number of populist choices, ranging from U2 to Peter Gabriel and several much more upfront ethnic tunes. Notable precursors of such approach were of course Scorsese himself, Kubrick, Michael Mann, Ridley Scott. Here it's a bit of a watermark, because Scorsese obviously wanted a Bernstein-like approach, but this time his powerful moneylender turned his vision flat-out down as out-dated. Poor Bernstein got caught in the middle and while there is no right nor wrong here, this movie became another blueprint for 'how to do a hip epic'. Goodbye to composers, hello to crossover artists and musical fusions of often debatable eclecticism. The second feature, the Disney depression era adventure flick 'Journey of Natty Gann' needs not much introduction, it's 'The Magnificent Seven' part 8 or 10, robust, tuneful Bernstein Coplandia with big orchestra and rollicking travel montages, obviously too robust for the makers, who preferred Horner's gentler, more feminine take. It's good, but a bit over-familiar, at least if you know your Bernstein well enough. Next in line is Bernstein's 'The Scarlet Letter', a misbegotten Demi Moore vanity project, that was turned over from Morricone (who only contributed demos) to Bernstein and, finally, John Barry, who feasted on his own 'Dances with Wolves' leftovers. Undoubtedly he would have been fired, too, but there was no time left to do so. The 80 minutes of score are clearly the best featured work here, using the historical background to the best advantage of dramatic musical storytelling. There's a romantic streak running through it, depicting the love story between Hester and the priest, but it's divided evenly with many pastoral and sacral (threatening gregorian chanting) elements (nature and church play a pivotal role). Like in Bernstein's own The Field, it features irish pipes that refreshingly do not recall the tourist commercial approach Horner or Zimmer popularized back then. Out of these three, 'Scarlet Letter' comes out on top for me, as it less fragmented and harsh than the first and much more ambitious in scope and execution than the second. But after now almost 20 years, these three scores personify a film music approach that left a lot of trust to the composer/creator, a trust that is a rare commodity these days outside Spielberg/Williams or Polanski/Desplat and (fill in your own handful examples). Smeltington, Jay, KK and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 @publicist Whaou! You did feel inspired this morning... Very interesting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Westworld Season One and Two by Ramin Djawadi Great music, less famous than his Got's score but almost as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Currently re-encoding the 7th CD of the Gerhardt Boxset (the Herrmann's one)... Ah... gapeless tracks... misplaced CD indexes... Thanks to EAC and its "Copy Selected Range" feature! Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I just pop mine into the CD player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I am listening to Spitfire (Chris Roe) and Pearl Harbour (Zimmer) almost daily. I’ve also listened to The Last Samurai and Schindler’s List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I just pop mine into the CD player. Since I've grown with that... (and well it had an unperfect but usefull anti-skipping feature... but not enough to prevent skipping while listening in the bus!) ...I never really listened to a CD with a CD player... Buggy physical mechanism that can damage the CDs... and the lens which can be dirty... For me a CD, always was an archival medium, not a playable one. And that horrible sound: THE DIGITAL GLITCH... The worst sound in the universe! I always prefered listening to mp3s and now, FLACs. My music NEVER skips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Unless the rip's faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Unless the rip's faulty. IT'S NEVER FAULTY WITH EAC. Except if your CD is in terminal phase... There are some CDs buried in my backyard. May they rest in peace for eternity (as they are not biodegradable). Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Westworld Season Three by Ramin Djawadi JFK by John Williams Good and awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Gabriel Yared - Cold Mountain The score is a bit long and repetitive, but my gosh, this theme is extremely beautiful. Almost made me cry, and I never watched the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 HOME (Johnny Jewel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2021 Well, Bernard Herrmann, you got it!Hangover Square (1945) is my new favorite score! I hear the connection with Taxi Driver already, it's simply marvellous! On the Gerhardt album (arranged as a wonderfull piano concerto, a slight revision made by Herrmann himself for this '73 re-recording) and as a kind of "reconstructed" score on the 2010 BBC re-recording (Gamba). Tom Guernsey, GerateWohl, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 On Deadly Ground is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, Bespin said: Well, Bernard Herrmann, you got it!Hangover Square (1945) is my new favorite score! I hear the connection with Taxi Driver already, it's simply marvellous! On the Gerhardt album (arranged as a wonderfull piano concerto, a slight revision made by Herrmann himself for this '73 re-recording) and as a kind of "reconstructed" score on the 2010 BBC re-recording (Gamba). The piano concerto is great. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 It's grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I want to play the piano like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: On Deadly Ground is even better. "Dangerous", you mean? The Death Hunt is fantastic, but the rest of the score didn't do much for me and I don't remember it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2021 Bernard Herrmann for Valentine's day, I find myself so romantic! Bernard Herrmann/Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra, Adriano – Jane Eyre GerateWohl, publicist, KK and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Joy in the Morning would be a good Valentines Herrmann listen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Joy in the Morning would be a good Valentines Herrmann listen too. You know where I'm going... Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Well, Mother certainly was Norman's Valentine Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Only 15 minutes long, but again a perfect little "musical statement", with elegant melodies and piano flourishes. Heffes usually delivers, whatever he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: "Dangerous", you mean? The Death Hunt is fantastic, but the rest of the score didn't do much for me and I don't remember it now. Yes, that's what I meant. You can make a good, suspenseful suite from perhaps a third of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1941 (LLL) by John Williams The Prisoner of Azkaban (OST) by John Williams I think the score presentation from the prisoner of Azkaban is probably the best JW's presentation. It is so fluid, so various that I never feel the hour past. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Sabrina by John Williams So good... Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 This is one of my absolute favourite Bernstein scores, but I've always found it funny that he had to use the ondes martenot in absolutely everything at this point in time - even about a 14th/15th century nun. Neat versions of the "Dies Irae" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yeah, what's wrong with the theremin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Or just avoiding that particular colour altogether now and then. But Bernstein obviously had a deep love of the instrument that just wouldn't let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Someone said he was bought by the strong underground ondes martenot society. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The sudden marches and galops come out of left field (much like in Young's MURDER IN THE FIRST), but the broad, impressionistic writing is great. Nice to have something from my favourite Bergman, WILD STRAWBERRIES, on album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Someone said he was bought by the strong underground ondes martenot society. Some other said he was very taken with player Cynthia Miller. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yeah, I heard that story. Cheeky bastard, that Bernstein! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 A lot of people find this boring. I don't agree. While there are no fireworks, and plenty of Horner-isms, I can get lost in this type of soulful stuff forever. Edmilson and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I like this score as well. Calling to the Wind is a beautiful, touching cue. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I like this score as well. Calling to the Wind is a beautiful, touching cue. Absolutely. And 'cue' is somewhat of a misnomer in many of these superlong Horner tracks, IMO. At 10 minutes, it's almost like a self-sufficient composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Thor said: A lot of people find this boring. I don't agree. While there are no fireworks, and plenty of Horner-isms, I can get lost in this type of soulful stuff forever. And let's not forget the Britten-inspired action stuff, which is a lot more challenging than what Horner used to put out around this time with his never-ending melodramatic ostinatos. Interestingly, a lot of that was re-written for the movie. This would be a good candidate for a LLL style release. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Pain and Gain by Steve Jablonsky We can say what we want about the Bay's movies but each time Jablonsky write a really pleasant score. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Pain and Gain by Steve Jablonsky We can say what we want about the Bay's movies but each time Jablonsky write a really pleasant score. Superb score for a superb film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I don't think Michael Bay has ever made a movie that can be classified as "superb". They range from "bad, but watchable" to "completely terrible pieces of crap that don't deserve even being called cinema". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I’m afraid we’re on different planets there. Always been a big fan. bruce marshall and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Do you even like the Transformers movies? I really don't like any of them, they're all utterly horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Do you even like the Transformers movies? I really don't like any of them, they're all utterly horrible. I like the first. But the Transformers movies are not where I get my Bay kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yeah, they're not his best work. Some of his old movies I kinda like, such as the first Bad Boys, The Rock and Armageddon. The Island is also okay, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 David Arnold - Stargate (25th anniversary) Man, I hadn't listened to this in a while. What a masterpiece Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Rare, but beautiful score from '69 that combines minor-mode, baroque harpschicord and woodwinds with pop sensibilities, odd meters, bursts of dissonance and lyrical romance. What's not to like? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Edmilson said: Yeah, they're not his best work. Some of his old movies I kinda like, such as the first Bad Boys, The Rock and Armageddon. The Island is also okay, I guess. I find that the desert action sequence from Transformers 1 and 2 were pretty good. You can really feel the power of the big robots (damn that sentence is so stupid to say ;)) and I like the fact that you can really see Bay enjoyed doing the movie, it feels always nice to me. To me his best are The Rock and The Last Knight because it's make no sense and there are humans fighting with giant robots all across history on a Hopkins' narration while a sociopath butler robot plays the organ on Earth which in fact a Transformer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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