GerateWohl 4,429 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: ...and that, folks, is Horner in a nutshell. Yes. I recently was thinking about Horner during the discussion about key scores in the development of John Williams scoring style. For Horner it would probably be much obvious and easier checking on when certian themes, tunes or motifs were used by Horner the first time before he reused them in the following scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,855 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 David Newman - Paradise Delightful score, great textures, maybe reminiscent of Horner at times. The thing is that, despite some recurring motifs, I always prefer themes with austere boundaries just like Williams/Goldsmith ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Bespin said: Neo noir mood Alan Silvestri - Who framed Roger Rabbit OST Jerry Goldsmith - LA Confidential OST JW - The Long Goodbye (the short playlist made with the Quartet release) same mood for this cozy morning! John Barry - Body Heat (the JB Soundtrack Album) Bernard Herrmann - Taxi Driver (complete score) Jerry Goldsmith - Chinatown OST (from the Expanded set) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Black Panther (FYC) by Ludwig Göransson Not really much thing in it compared to the OST. Still love that score. My second favourite Göransson's score and actually the only one I can properly listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Thrillers! John Williams - Munich OST James Newton Howard - The Fugitive OST Danny Elfman - Mission Impossible (The original score) Tomas Newman - The Good German OST Bernard Herrmann - 5 Fingers (Stromberg Re-recording) Wojciech Kilar - The Ninth Gate OST Jerry Goldsmith - Basic Instinct OST John Williams - Presumed Innocent OST Tom Guernsey and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,636 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Bespin said: John Barry - Body Heat (the JB Soundtrack Album) Bernard Herrmann - Taxi Driver (complete score) Jerry Goldsmith - Chinatown OST (from the Expanded set) ...then 57 minutes ago, Bespin said: John Williams - Munich OST James Newton Howard - The Fugitive OST Danny Elfman - Mission Impossible (The original score) Tomas Newman - The Good German OST Bernard Herrmann - 5 Fingers (Stromberg Re-recording) Wojciech Kilar - The Ninth Gate OST Jerry Goldsmith - Basic Instinct OST John Williams - Presumed Innocent OST Now, just a damn minute! You listened to all those in two hours?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 He plays them at x20 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: ...then Now, just a damn minute! You listened to all those in two hours?! What??? We really have to listen to them? Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,162 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 You never pay attention anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I'm currently listening to them. It's a 6 h 13 playlist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 JNH - The Village (complete) One of the best scores of James' career, but I never warmed to the official OST, which omitted some excellent cues. In complete and chronological form the score plays much better. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Black Sunday by John Williams Simply great! Williams certainly succeed to write something terrific between two of the greatest scores of all times. Quite amazing to think that this one might be seen just as a little bonus for the year 1977 when it contains great action cues and source music. 9 minutes ago, Bespin said: I'm currently listening to them. It's a 6 h 13 playlist! VLC doesn't crash with that much music? I remember having stop using it because there was some small interruptions while playing just one album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I usually listen my music with Winamp, but I tweaked it to remove the blank between songs, and almost make a perfect mix without gap between the songs. It's great for listening an expanded score by example (Jaws or the HP scores, etc)! But today, I want all the silences hehe FIXED (yes VLC still freeze playing FLACs) grrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Black Panther (FYC) by Ludwig Göransson Not really much thing in it compared to the OST. Still love that score. My second favourite Göransson's score and actually the only one I can properly listen to. Wish I could find a copy of that. Interested in a trade? I'll settle for a cdr😊 1 hour ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Black Sunday by John Williams Simply great! Williams certainly succeed to write something terrific between two of the greatest scores of all times. Quite amazing to think that this one might be seen just as a little bonus for the year 1977 when it contains great action cues and source music. VLC doesn't crash with that much music? I remember having stop using it because there was some small interruptions while playing just one album. Was BS the last score that didn't get a contemporary ost released? 6 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Yes. I recently was thinking about Horner during the discussion about key scores in the development of John Williams scoring style. For Horner it would probably be much obvious and easier checking on when certian themes, tunes or motifs were used by Horner the first time before he reused them in the following scores. WOLFEN is really the template for his subsequent scores. Still my favorite of his!😍 On 3/26/2021 at 5:15 AM, Thor said: Jazzy Americana score (with Bernstein's trademark odd meter ostinati) for a film that caused quite the ruckus back in the day. A young John Williams plays the piano. Was that poster used for the one sheet? Seems impossible- areola is visible! GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Was BS the last score that didn't get a contemporary ost released? No, there was Family Plot just after. Then Nightwatch (TV). bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: Wish I could find a copy of that. Interested in a trade? I'll settle for a cdr😊 Well I don't own it physically, just got a copy on the FYC website bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Marvel's Spider-Man by Joe Paesano. It is probably not the most distinctive of scores as far as the concept goes. Similarily to Arkham game scores, it seems to bring together the elements of different sounds from the big screen interpretations of the character - notably Elfman and MCU sound. The main theme isn't that distinctive but Paesano manages to create enough variations throughout to make it work. And it is quite memorable. The 80+ minute album is a big of a slog as you don't really need all of this but, for the most part, it feels more solid than the majority of current superhero music. So yeah, probably the least stylistically specific of Spider-Man scores but quite a pleasant one nonetheless. And yes, it took me 2 and a half year to finally give it a listen. But I've found a high-res promo sitting on my hard drive the other day while looking for something else so decided to give it a chance. Karol HunterTech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I ought to listen to that soon, given how much I didn't mind the few bits I heard. In the pantheon of Spidey themes, it's not particularly high. It's better than Pemberton's, but I think I get more of a kick out of Giacchino's and even Zimmer's theme. Granted, I had more time to sit with those, but at its core, Paesano's theme feels a bit more like standard superhero fare. But that's only one aspect, so I'll try to get my hands on the OST soon, given how massive the game rip is (with its own cue numbers, weirdly enough). crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 His theme actually reminds me, oddly, of this (but more interesting and graceful) Danny Elfman theme. The opening is almost identical to Paesano's logo music: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I don't remember much of the score for the 2018 game, but Paesano's Miles Morales was a pretty great mix of hip hop and orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Oh wow, it never occurred to me to make that connection! I mean, it would be better on the virtue of it actually being properly utilized within the score itself. Elfman's theme (which I feel is on par with JXL's main theme in ZSJL) would come off a lot better if it had more presence instead of only really appearing like 2-4 times as a whole. Admittedly, that probably is an issue with much of the themes in his JL effort, but that particular one sticks out as a result of intending to be the theme for the titular group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I don't remember much of the score for the 2018 game, but Paesano's Miles Morales was a pretty great mix of hip hop and orchestra. I got PS5 with this game some weeks ago. But I'm about to move in a couple of weeks so decided to not start this game just yet. Looking forward to it. 6 minutes ago, HunterTech said: Oh wow, it never occurred to me to make that connection! I mean, it would be better on the virtue of it actually being properly utilized within the score itself. Elfman's theme (which I feel is on par with JXL's main theme in ZSJL) would come off a lot better if it had more presence instead of only really appearing like 2-4 times as a whole. Admittedly, that probably is an issue with much of the themes in his JL effort, but that particular one sticks out as a result of intending to be the theme for the titular group. You see, it is quite frequently used in the second half of the score. The main problem, I think, is that it doesn't have particular setting that feels like the main thing. It has dozens of variations, all very different in terms of orchestration and rhythm, that it might not occur to the listener it is in fact the same theme. That is why Age of Ultron theme was much better executed. Also, for some reason Justice League has two themes? I understand one has to do with Batman (as it hints at Elfman's theme) and the one we discuss is a more hopeful and sunny one. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, crocodile said: I got PS5 with this game some weeks ago. But I'm about to move in a couple of weeks so decided to not start this game just yet. Looking forward to it. It's a great game! One of my favorites from the last year. If you liked the 2018 Spidey you'll gonna like Miles Morales as well. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 BABYLON BERLIN v. Two GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,429 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 15 hours ago, bruce marshall said: WOLFEN is really the template for his subsequent scores. Still my favorite of his!😍 I just knew the score of Krull, then watched Wolfen and, yes, I can confirm. 1 hour ago, bruce marshall said: BABYLON BERLIN v. Two It's just a pitty that they didn't put the accoustic version of "Du bist alles" on the disc that we get to hear in the show, just the pop version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 22 hours ago, filmmusic said: David Newman - Paradise Delightful score, great textures, maybe reminiscent of Horner at times. The thing is that, despite some recurring motifs, I always prefer themes with austere boundaries just like Williams/Goldsmith ones. One of my absolute D. Newman favs. Maybe even top 3. Haven't played any JW in months, I think, so just a little Sunday dose. It's a short affair, so quickly on to.....: Not technically a soundtrack (so I could have posted it in both the rock/pop thread and the electronic thread), but several of the cues were used in season 3 of TWIN PEAKS. I just adore Johnny Jewel's dreamy soundscapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Seafaring score from 1990, but not really broad and sweeping. More rhytmical - love those undulating pan pipes on "Ship Hunters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,162 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Which one survived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 No idea. Never seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Thor said: Haven't played any JW in months, I think, so just a little Sunday dose. It's a short affair, so quickly on to.....: I think I've never pass a day where I don't listen to, at least, 20 minutes of the maestro. You should listen to more of him before falling in the infiniteness emptiness! Black Swan by Clint Mansell A nice score. I love Tchaïkovski's Лебединое озеро so I naturaly like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: I think I've never pass a day where I don't listen to, at least, 20 minutes of the maestro. You should listen to more of him before falling in the infiniteness emptiness! He, he. Well, you're young and still in your "exploration phase". I've listened intently to Williams for 30 years, and know pretty much everything he's done by heart, so I occasionally need some breaks. There have been times where I haven't listened to JW for a year. Makes coming back to him all the greater, like a friend you haven't seen in a while. Just now, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Black Swan by Clint Mansell A nice score. I love Tchaïkovski's Лебединое озеро so I naturaly like this one. Beautiful score; great "dark" variations on ol' Pjotr as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,162 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, Thor said: He, he. Well, you're young and still in your "exploration phase". I've listened intently to Williams for 30 years, and know pretty much everything he's done by heart, so I occasionally need some breaks. There have been times where I haven't listened to JW for a year. Makes coming back to him all the greater, like a friend you haven't seen in a while. If you get tired of the old OSTs, perhaps listening to an expansion now and then will make the music sound fresher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 No, that would just lead to this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,162 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 At least it's good for something then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thor said: He, he. Well, you're young and still in your "exploration phase". Otherwise I see your point. 8 minutes ago, Thor said: Beautiful score; great "dark" variations on ol' Pjotr as well. I've needed time to get into those dark variations but now each time I listen to it I appreciate it more. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 18 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Was BS the last score that didn't get a contemporary ost released? Assuming you're asking about JW scores and not all scores that exist, the answer is Heartbeeps in 1981 was the last film he scored that didn't get an OST album bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Cinematic Dopamine Release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: Assuming you're asking about JW scores and not all scores that exist, the answer is Heartbeeps in 1981 was the last film he scored that didn't get an OST album So the Varese edition is just an expansion, not to be considered as an OST album? BlacKkKlansman (OST + FYC) by Terrence Blanchard Blut und Boden is absolutely terrific. Lot of good things here although the FYC is clearly sufficient as it contains all the highlights without the uninterresting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Heartbeeps (1981) got only one official release in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 49 minutes ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: So the Varese edition is just an expansion, not to be considered as an OST album? It's neither an expansion nor an OST. It's a premiere release, and most premiere releases in the last couple of decades have been C&C (or close to it) from the get-go. Same as with NONE BUT THE BRAVE, GUIDE FOR THE MARRIED MAN etc. etc. Scores that never had a properly curated OST to begin with. A shame this wasn't used in DREDD, because I prefer it over the Leonard-Morgan score. Lean, clean and Carpenter-inspired to the fullest. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: So the Varese edition is just an expansion, not to be considered as an OST album? It's a catalog release, a specialty label going into the archives decades later and releasing the entire score. Generally, "OST album" is used to refer to the album that came out around the same time the film, in JW's case always crafted by him to present a curated selection of the music in the order he wants, usually also containing material recorded specifically for the album. In Heartbeeps case, WIlliams never got to do that, and the Varese album is them licensing every cue recorded from Universal and putting them on disc 20 years later. There are 28 feature film scores Williams wrote that didn't get an OST album, you can see a list of them here https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/32706-john-williams-scores-by-music-label/ Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 My Dopamine Release Playlist is based on a scientific study made by Montreal McGill College, btw. Listen to this playlist and you'll feel like you had great sex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,162 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bespin said: Listen to this playlist and you'll feel like you had great sex! I see that some people are easier to satisfy than others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 It may not work on Norwegian brains. 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 A.I. My first time listening to it since 2015. Great score! I can see why it is so beloved around here. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 The listening of the expanded set of A.I. is almost a religious experience! Now, in the event that I buy this CD below, it is an assumption, I would like to know if one, it would affect my reputation here, and two, if I should classify it in the 'G' or in the 'Z'? Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 It's one of my favorite scores ever I shelf it with my other Zimmers. I don't own any other NGS scores Bespin and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Thor said: One of my absolute D. Newman favs. Maybe even top 3. Haven't played any JW in months, I think, so just a little Sunday dose. It's a short affair, so quickly on to.....: Not technically a soundtrack (so I could have posted it in both the rock/pop thread and the electronic thread), but several of the cues were used in season 3 of TWIN PEAKS. I just adore Johnny Jewel's dreamy soundscapes. Yeah..his cues on TP are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,636 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Bespin said: ...I would like to know if one, it would affect my reputation here, and two, if I should classify it in the 'G' or in the 'Z'? It's alphabetical, so it's G, for Glennie-Smith. It's also Zimmer, so your reputation will automatically take a fucking nose dive. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I file it under Zimmer too, even though NGS was the main creative force. Largely overlooked Moroder score. It's great - both the songs and score. Love the car chase cue, in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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