Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, crumbs said: It's probably the worst Williams score of the last decade, if not longer. He clearly didn't give a shit about the assignment, and I say that as a massive JW fan. It's like he saw how Spielberg was phoning in so many of the bland expository scenes and decided to follow suit with mundane, uninspired underscore. I don't blame JW whatsoever though, the fault lies with the terrible movie he was asked to score. Some of this mught be repetitive overlap from my thread about the score, but I've been on a real Indy kick lately for whatever reason (to the point of buying some Red Wing Indy-styled boots!), and man, this score has some bad ASS music. Music that captures the adventurous spirit of Indiana Jones, the thrill of discovery, in a way that the film itself never does. The stuff that made people like my uncle want to be an archaeologist. I'm on my phone, so unfortunately I can't use time encoding or whatever: At 3:22 it sounds a lot like War of the Worlds, but builds into this wondrous whirlwind of excitement, masterfully adding more layers of intensity and tension. And around 4:46 he throws in those trademark Indy French horn perfect fifths for even more punch. Man, what a setpiece. Another similar moment: Starts alright around 3:11, but gets kicking fast, building up great tension with minor triads and a snare roll, culminating in a mini climax with nosebleed heights piercing violin that you pretty much never hear in movies anymore. Then he builds up again into a suspension of momentum around 3:52, another classic Indy move, before bringing it down with some more Indy-style minor triads, trilling woodwinds, sweepy strings, and turns out the lights with yet another classic Williams signature of only celli and bass really just laying into some notes (like this around 1:20 ) I could go on, but I'll leave it there for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: Some of this mught be repetitive overlap from my thread about the score, but I've been on a real Indy kick lately for whatever reason (to the point of buying some Red Wing Indy-styled boots!) Until you get the genuine Indy jacket from Wested leather you're just a poser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Wested is the easiest to get, but the best one ever commercially available is apparently the one from Gibson & Barnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Until you get the genuine Indy jacket from Wested leather you're just a poser. Hey, baby, imitation is what got us into Kingdom of the Crystal Skull being what it is. (Indy wears Alden 405s, by the way). I'm all about the inspiration game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 What is it with Nicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Margo Channing said: What is it with Nicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Margo Channing said: What is it with Nicks? Star Trek: Insurrection is without a doubt the biggest film we've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Batman's Diet Coke said: Star Trek: Insurrection is without a doubt the biggest film we've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Wested is without a doubt the source for my Das Boot jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 How are they going to explain Marion & Mutt's absence in Indy 5? So that river looked very shallow. Did Indy mount an expedition to retrieve the two Sankara stones that fell into those crocodile infested waters during his life and death cliffhanger (literally) struggle with Mola Ram? After all it, wouldn't it give him his "fortune and glory"? Wouldn't those have stones made a fine addition to the museum's Indian collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: How are they going to explain Marion & Mutt's absence in Indy 5? Mutt turned into a zombie and bit Marion, so Indy had to shoot both of them. "I thought I was gonna be marryin' Marion, but it turns out she was meant to be carrion!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I hope it's Indiana Jones and the Return to the Temple of Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I hope it's Indiana Jones and the Return to the Temple of Doom. Did you find the portrayal of Indians in Temple of Doom to be racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Willie's Revenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Did you find the portrayal of Indians in Temple of Doom to be racist? Stop that, we don't call them "Indians" anymore. They're Native Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Ug! Me last Mohican! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Indiana Jones and the Last of the Dogmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Stop that, we don't call them "Indians" anymore. They're Native Americans. You're insulting them and you're embarrassing me. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Indiana Jones and the Search for Edgardo Mortara Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 River Phoenix had the best hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Hey lady. You call him Dr. Jones ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I think the delays are quite obvious: Indy is now Disney/Lucasfilm, right? Therefore, Spielberg spends his days trying to convince Bob Iger to make a worldwide distribution deal, because it won't be an Indy movie without the Paramount opening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 8/13/2018 at 5:16 AM, Amer said: Hey lady. You call him Dr. Jones ! By Indy 5, shouldn’t that be Ameritus? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Chen G. said: By Indy 5, shouldn’t that be Ameritus? No, it should be Emeritus. Chen G. and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Holko said: I think the delays are quite obvious: Indy is now Disney/Lucasfilm, right? Therefore, Spielberg spends his days trying to convince Bob Iger to make a worldwide distribution deal, because it won't be an Indy movie without the Paramount opening! Well ...I want the paramount logo, but it could work with the Disney castle segueing into a real life castle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Paramount no longer owns the IP, you can't have the Paramount opening for any new Indiana Jones film. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I think this could still be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 In have faith in Spielberg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Do you think he'll get a good composer for this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Does that mean the Paramount logo could be axed from future releases of the old movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Do you think he'll get a good composer for this one? I think they're all dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 There is one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 ...who can unite them. There is one who can reclaim the lost glory of Hollywood blockbuster film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Chosen wielder of the keyblade. You are the one who will open the door to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: ...who can unite them. There is one who can reclaim the lost glory of Hollywood blockbuster film music. Michael Giacchino! Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Michael Giacchino! But only if he records the score in London! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Quintus said: I think this could still be cancelled. I hope so. KOTCS was just embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: Paramount no longer owns the IP, you can't have the Paramount opening for any new Indiana Jones film. Simple as that. You could have Cinderella castle instead! Karol Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Anyone else prefer KotCS to the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: In have faith in Spielberg! I honestly do, too, especially if they get a good screenwriter on board (which Spiepberg is very dependent on). But the prospects of this existing as intended seems to get slimmer, like Tintin 2. 1 minute ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Anyone else prefer KotCS to the original? Yes, and they're all as crazy as you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Anyone else prefer KotCS to the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Yes, and they're all as crazy as you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I was thinking more like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Every penny's worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted October 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2018 Another step in the right direction. This was one of my biggest complaints about KOCS: Quote Exclusive: Indiana Jones 5 Will Return to Global Scope, Says Frank Marshall One of the biggest disappointments of 2008’s Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was the decision by Steven Spielberg to shoot the film almost entirely on U.S. soil, which detracted from the global scope of the previous three films. That’s all about to change as series producer Frank Marshall confirmed that Lucasfilm‘s upcoming Indiana Jones 5 will bring back the global scope of the original three films, and he also confirmed that a “writers room” is forming to advise on the sequel. ComingSoon.net: “Crystal Skull” shot almost entirely in the U.S., so is the idea to broaden the scope of filming this time? Frank Marshall: Yes. http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/990335-exclusive-indiana-jones-5-will-return-to-global-scope-says-frank-marshall He also talks about George Lucas not being involved. Cerebral Cortex, Pieter Boelen and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Crystal Skull would have sucked wherever they filmed it. Who cares where things are filmed? It's not like you can tell by watching it what country they're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted October 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2018 Right, like the establishing shots of Venice as Indy and Marcus are escorted through the city by Elsa, or the reveal of the monolithic Petra as the resting place of the Holy Grail, or the sprawling rooftop reveal of Kairouan in Tunisia doubling for 1930s Cairo, the huge Tanis digsite set filmed near Algeria, the desert chase through massive palm plantations, the epic trek across Sri Lanka doubling for India, or the huge canyon in Sri Lanka they built a rope bridge across for TOD's climax, I could go on and on. Compare all those to the slop served up in KOTCS. The only pass I'll give is the opening sequence, but even that is laced with distracting CGI and obnoxious colour grading. The rest is a mess of poorly dressed soundstages and obvious backlots. The Hawaiian jungle is so painted over with animated foliage it barely resembles a live action movie. Pieter Boelen, Once, Holko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Ah, I see what you're saying now. Yeah, I can agree with that. I can admit when I'm wrong. Once and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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