Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, filmmusic said: Has anyone seen part 2? Is it worth seeing it? 12 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: No. The third film is much better, in which Macaulay Culkin's character is reincarnated and returns as...well, you'll see. It's called The Good Son. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Back in the day as a kid, I liked both My Girl films a lot. I haven't revisited either as an adult, so can't really say how the second one holds up to an adult viewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 7 hours ago, filmmusic said: Delightful score also by James Newton Howard, but unfortunately it hasn't got a release. I know, and it desperately needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: The third film is much better, in which Macaulay Culkin's character is reincarnated and returns as...well, you'll see. It's called The Good Son. Good. Cold, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 29/05/2023 at 1:26 PM, Naïve Old Fart said: I remember seeing BLACK ANGEL, as a support to THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. Fun fact: in the UK, THE SNOWMAN was going to support E.T. Spielberg, however, viewed it, and vetoed, saying that it was too similar to his film I think I did too ... it rings a vague bell. Ah, supporting features ... those were the days. Nowadays cinema screenings are preceded by about 20 minutes of ads and 5 minutes of trailers. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 29/05/2023 at 7:59 PM, Nick1Ø66 said: Have you seen the Wagner vs. Verdi debate w/Stephen Fry? Quite entertaining. That's interesting, if a bit unfair, with such a biased host. Although the Verdi advocate really doesn't do himself (or Verdi) any favours by building almost his entire argument on what a cool guy Verdi was compared to Wagner's rather vile character - when most serious fans of Wagner are very much aware of that and are fans of his music (and story conceptions) *despite* the man. The argument about Verdi being the precursor to film music (including a JW namedrop) is a dangerous one, and Fry didn't miss his chance to point out that there's a lot of basis for the usual argument that this is very much Wagner's role. I wouldn't rule it out entirely; at least Puccini was clearly a big influence on Korngold, and verismo is obviously much closer to many Hollywood dramas than Wagner's epics. At the very least, I suppose Verdi is the immediate precursor to all that. But as an argument *against* Wagner it remains quite suicidal. I must say though that Tomlinson is pretty painful to listen to in that video - maybe it's the setting, combined with the fact that Wotan usually sings that after hours of other stuff and doesn't have to worry about being sufficiently warmed up (much rather having some voice left at all). And even with an orchestra pit (which he lacks in this situation) it's hard enough for a singer to remain audible about the full orchestra, unless the conductor takes extra care to keep the orchestra in check (few do). Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: I must say though that Tomlinson is pretty painful to listen to in that video If there's anything unfair is that Tomlinson gets to pitch-in with an (honestly not that insightful) addendum to the argument. I'm sorry, Sir John, the music isn't ecstatic because Wotan "sees his plan working." Its ecstatic because its a moment of great reconciliation between father and daughter. As for his singing, I find it good, but as much as it grieves me to say this, I was never fully sold on his Wotans and Gurnemanzes. He plays and sings them - and this is also true here - with a lot of jittery, nervous, explosive energy, whereas I feel the nobility of these characters lies exactly in them being a little more reserved. His Wotan for Kupfer, especially, feels more like a rogue. Its partially what I like about the Syberberg film: Robert Lloyd is so suave and noble-seeming as Gurnemanz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: I think I did too ... it rings a vague bell. Ah, supporting features ... those were the days. Nowadays cinema screenings are preceded by about 20 minutes of ads and 5 minutes of trailers. Gives plenty of time for getting late and having a supporting toilet visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: That's interesting, if a bit unfair, with such a biased host. Although the Verdi advocate really doesn't do himself (or Verdi) any favours by building almost his entire argument on what a cool guy Verdi was compared to Wagner's rather vile character - when most serious fans of Wagner are very much aware of that and are fans of his music (and story conceptions) *despite* the man. The argument about Verdi being the precursor to film music (including a JW namedrop) is a dangerous one, and Fry didn't miss his chance to point out that there's a lot of basis for the usual argument that this is very much Wagner's role. I wouldn't rule it out entirely; at least Puccini was clearly a big influence on Korngold, and verismo is obviously much closer to many Hollywood dramas than Wagner's epics. At the very least, I suppose Verdi is the immediate precursor to all that. But as an argument *against* Wagner it remains quite suicidal. I must say though that Tomlinson is pretty painful to listen to in that video - maybe it's the setting, combined with the fact that Wotan usually sings that after hours of other stuff and doesn't have to worry about being sufficiently warmed up (much rather having some voice left at all). And even with an orchestra pit (which he lacks in this situation) it's hard enough for a singer to remain audible about the full orchestra, unless the conductor takes extra care to keep the orchestra in check (few do). Well said. I'll just add, along with the fact that his points just weren't that well argued, it really wasn't fair putting Norman Lebrecht up against Stephen Fry to begin with. Fry, in addition to being a conspicuous Wagnerian, is one of the UK's most beloved entertainers, is famously well-spoken, very funny and charismatic, and he was right at home in this milieu. My guess is, had Fry taken Verdi's part, he would have had that audience eating out of his hand and still would have won the day (and I say this as more of a Wagnerian myself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Wagner vs. Puccini would have been more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: As for his singing, I find it good, but as much as it grieves me to say this, I was never fully sold on his Wotans and Gurnemanzes. He plays and sings them - and this is also true here - with a lot of jittery, explosive energy, whereas I feel the nobility of these characters lies exactly in them being a little more reserved. A bit too much energy for my taste too, but mostly he barely hits any of his notes here - there's almost always an upwards glissando until he finds the right pitch. The premiere of the latest Ring cycle in Vienna (now some 15 years ago) had a Brünnhilde with the same problem (in an otherwise stellar cast; the first act has been released on CD). For Siegfried, Nina Stemme took over the role, brilliantly. She was supposed to do the whole Ring during the 2020 season and I was much looking forward to that, but of course COVID prevented that. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: he barely hits any of his notes here - there's almost always an upwards glissando until he finds the right pitch. Well, he is a bass... I don't mind if I feel the overall impression is good: did Waltraud Meier (a mezzo) always hit her high notes as Isolde? and what about Gwyneth Jones shrillness? But the overall package was so compelling, it didn't matter. 17 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: it really wasn't fair putting Norman Lebrecht up against Stephen Fry to begin with. And putting, as the "voice" of the two composers, some up-and-coming soprano against a British icon, who as I said also took the liberty to pitch-in with some words of his own. Even just the way Fry introduced the Wagnerian "vessel": "Oh, look at this girl, isn't she adorbs...oh, and on the Wagner corner, we have one of this country's finest international singers!" 15 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: For Siegfried, Nina Stemme took over the role, brilliantly. When Stemme and Theorin hang-up their Wagnerian repertoire, I truly fear for the state we'll be in for Brunnhildes and Isoldes... There are some satisfactory Wotans around, and Siegfrieds and Tristans almost always disappoint anyhow, but Brunnhilde... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Well, he is a bass... Hey, I'm a bass, too. On an entire different level, of course. But as I said, circumstances for this performance may not have been very favourable. 5 minutes ago, Chen G. said: When Stemme and Theorin hang-up their Wagnerian repertoire, I truly fear for the state we'll be in for Brunnhildes and Isoldes... There are some satisfactory Wotans around, and Siegfrieds and Tristans almost always disappoint anyhow, but Brunnhilde... I've seen some solid Wotans and Siegfrieds, but yes, the weak point in any Ring was usually the Brünnhilde - except for Stemme, who was the highlight. (In the abovementioned Walküre premiere, she was Sieglinde) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: In the abovementioned Walküre premiere, she was Sieglinde I think I saw that one. There was also an amazing Walkure from La Scala with Stemme's Brunnhilde, Tomlinson's Hunding, Meier as Sieglinde, I damn near fainted. 3 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I'm a bass, too. Bass-Baritone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I'm known as "Fidel Castrato". Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Do you wear that on a name-tag like this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Gives plenty of time for getting late and having a supporting toilet visit. Yes, toilet visits before rather than during the movie are to be encouraged, as during is highly irritating (especially if they cross your eyeline on their way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Sweeping Strings said: Yes, toilet visits before rather than during the movie are to be encouraged, as during is highly irritating (especially if they cross your eyeline on their way). Especially if you have to go yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,371 Posted May 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2023 Reminds me of the first time that I saw 2001 together with some friends on VHS. After the ape story when the spaceship approaches the space station one went to the toilet. And when he came back he couldn't believe that the spaceship was still flying towards the space station. Jurassic Shark, Edmilson, Brónach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 He probably didn't wash his hands then. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 A commode that slides out from under your seat at the push of a button and then retracts when you're done is clearly the way forward (although attempts to use them for defecation will result in patrons being thrown out without refund). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,371 Posted May 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: He probably didn't wash his hands then. He did. I don't remember, but probably he took a shower too and got a sixpack from the gas station. The scene is long enough. Jurassic Shark, Brónach and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 29/05/2023 at 3:59 PM, Chen G. said: Nobody, and I totally don't have a 250-page writeup with footnotes about it all... Chen in the bar: Would you like to come home with me and see my massive footnote? Potential date: ... Chen: I mean it, it's real. Potential date: ...OK then. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Chen in the bar: Would you like to come home with me and see my massive footnote? That's not what I do at the bar! I'll have you know the last time I was in the bar with mates we....umm, we did a duet of "The Internet is for Porn." Jurassic Shark, Brónach and GerateWohl 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Innerspace (1987) I haven't actually sat down and watched this film in 35 years. (I may have watched the DVD with the commentary?) I'm glad I still love it. Joe Dante's most successful film across the board. I love Gremlins 2 but that feels more like they gave Dante a bunch of money and he shrugged and said "Let's play with it!" To say that Robert Picardo is "audacious" does a disservice to the word. Nice to see the Joe Dante Players well represented. (I missed the Chuck Jones cameo.) Funny to think that Ryan and Quaid met on this film. They really only have two or three scenes together. Movie magic at it's best: Quaid and Short are a hilarious team and they're on screen together for a few minutes. The effects are still amazing. ILM in it's magic shop heyday. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 INNERSPACE is a great film, and it's chock full of great visuals and lines. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 what if i rewatch Reds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I'm not sure what REDS has to do with INNERSPACE, but they are both good films in their own rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Had a double-bill (via the ITVX streaming service) of 'how the hell did I not end up renting these on VHS back in the day?' last night - Days Of Thunder and Weekend At Bernie's. The former was clearly an attempt by Simpson and Bruckheimer, Tony Scott and Cruise to replicate the success of Top Gun with stock cars in place of fighter jets. It's well-paced and the plentiful race action is thrillingly staged. With Robert Duvall, Nicole Kidman, Michael Rooker, Randy Quaid and John C. Reilly. The latter is a knockabout black-comedy farce, with 2 employees of an accountancy firm (Johnathan Silverman and Andrew McCarthy) invited to their boss' Hamptons home for the weekend only for him to be murdered just before they arrive and they have to pretend that he's still very much alive. Probably not a classic, but there were enough gleefully bad-taste gags in it to keep me chuckling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Haven't seen it in years and years but Days of Thunder is amazing. And (IIRC) arguably a more coherent movie than Top Gun. And Zimmer's score is one of my definitive "Gotta get stuff DONE" scores. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Gosh! I haven't seen either of those films, in donkey's years. I'll catch up with them, asap. Right now, I'm working my way through the MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 31/05/2023 at 11:44 AM, Naïve Old Fart said: INNERSPACE Wow, special effects on JWfan! Naïve Old Fart and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Cheeky monkey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I was bored a bit in the actual football game parts, because I don't know how it is played. And, isn't Burt Reynolds the sexiest actor ever? I think so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 23 hours ago, Tallguy said: Haven't seen it in years and years but Days of Thunder is amazing. And (IIRC) arguably a more coherent movie than Top Gun. And Zimmer's score is one of my definitive "Gotta get stuff DONE" scores. It made for a great 'Saturday night with some beers' movie. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Agreed. Some films are "beer and pizza" movies, and some are "steak and red wine" movies. DAYS OF THUNDER is definitely the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I don't think Sweepers Deepers likes wine. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 It's a metaphorical term, but one can add their own beveridge of choice. Personally, I prefer Dr. Pepper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 13 hours ago, filmmusic said: And, isn't Burt Reynolds the sexiest actor ever? I think so.. He's kinda dead, so I doubt it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 He lives on, in James Marsden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, AC1 said: I don't think Sweepers Deepers likes wine. Nope, I do. Couple of glasses of Chardonnay last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Was that what prompted the "middle-aged man and bleary eyed piss"? Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I don't see many people here watching anime or animation films. Anyway, I just watched this: A nostalgic, coming-of age, slice of life Chinese anime, involving a love triangle. Very good animation, reminding in detail the Makoto Shinkai films, but I felt it had too much score and too many songs, for this kind of film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Was that what prompted the "middle-aged man and bleary eyed piss"? A combo of being a chap of a certain age, being type 2 diabetic and due to said condition being on a pill that removes excess sugar from your system via your pee have created something of a 'perfect storm' you might say. lol. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: 19 hours ago, filmmusic said: And, isn't Burt Reynolds the sexiest actor ever? I think so.. He's kinda dead, so I doubt it... I see what you did there! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: A combo of being a chap of a certain age, being type 2 diabetic and due to said condition being on a pill that removes excess sugar from your system via your pee have created something of a 'perfect storm' you might say. lol. Empagliflozin, I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Empagliflozin, I assume? Canagliflozin. I'd imagine they're all much of a muchness, though. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Same family. They're all SGLT2 Inhibitors. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Sounds like something (possibly sentry robots) from a sci-fi actioner - 'Let them come. They won't get past the SGLT2 Inhibitors!' Naïve Old Fart and Brónach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Last Crusade Grail Theme is fucking gorgeous. Edmilson and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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